I finally flew through the lapping tail of a neutron star jet, and wow, it was scary (especially with months of data on my ship). With 7 or 8 months of exploration data, would it be foolish for me to experiment with neutron star jets? What about the neutron stars with the stronger more violent jets (I believe they're called pulsars)?
After 7 months in the black, would it be foolish to mess with neutron star jets?
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Unless you have an AFMU, damage to your FSD will accumulate so you won't be able to keep doing that.
I never use NS boost if I don't have an AFMU on board. I've only done a few dozen here and there and I've never had a problem.
But... Two things can go wrong while scooping. AFAIK. This is what I've gathered from other reports and You Tube videos.
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*You can accidentally hit the exclusion zone and drop out of super cruise. This is more likely with a White Dwarf than a NS.
If that happens and you're in the jet, your ship will continue to be spun around so you won't be able to align with the escape vector in order to re-engage supercruise.
I never bother with a WD since they are more difficult and you can get the same boost from Jumponium.
*If your FSD is damaged enough, it can randomly malfunction while you are in the jet and drop you out of super cruise. Again, you will most likely be unable to escape and your ship will eventually be torn apart.
When you are in the jet, your ship is being constantly buffeted and spun around so you have very little or no control over which direction you're pointing which makes it difficult or impossible to align with the escape vector.
You're only saving 4 jumps by using a NS boost, so you decide if it's worth the risk to save 4 minutes.
I never use NS boost if I don't have an AFMU on board. I've only done a few dozen here and there and I've never had a problem.
But... Two things can go wrong while scooping. AFAIK. This is what I've gathered from other reports and You Tube videos.
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*You can accidentally hit the exclusion zone and drop out of super cruise. This is more likely with a White Dwarf than a NS.
If that happens and you're in the jet, your ship will continue to be spun around so you won't be able to align with the escape vector in order to re-engage supercruise.
I never bother with a WD since they are more difficult and you can get the same boost from Jumponium.
*If your FSD is damaged enough, it can randomly malfunction while you are in the jet and drop you out of super cruise. Again, you will most likely be unable to escape and your ship will eventually be torn apart.
When you are in the jet, your ship is being constantly buffeted and spun around so you have very little or no control over which direction you're pointing which makes it difficult or impossible to align with the escape vector.
You're only saving 4 jumps by using a NS boost, so you decide if it's worth the risk to save 4 minutes.
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They don't cause any real problems, as long as you enter them slowly and follow the flow. Otherwise you could be ejected into the exclusion zone of the star, which would be quite bad...
Once you get the hang of them, it's not really a problem... I was doing jumps with 170m cr of scans on board.
Just remember.. Each charge damages your fsd by 1-2%, so you will need to repair at around 85% (using an afmu)
Once you get the hang of them, it's not really a problem... I was doing jumps with 170m cr of scans on board.
Just remember.. Each charge damages your fsd by 1-2%, so you will need to repair at around 85% (using an afmu)
Cash in all your data so you don't have any regrets. After 7 months in the black, a quick detour into a port will not be a chore for you.
Well done CMDR, great effort.
CMIV
Well done CMDR, great effort.
CMIV
I don't find it dangerous if you follow a simlle rule; enter at approximately half the jet and face away from the star. Not much can go wrong then. And check the FSD integrity. That said, I don't use it much as when exploring long jumps and missed systems aren't exactly what you're after.
Depends what you mean by Experiment. If you learn to use the tail of the jet properly there'll be no issues. Apart from accumulating damage to your FSD, you'll need to repair that once it gets below 80% and starts having random malfunctions.
The risk you take is you get too comfortable or confident and get too close to the exclusion zone, or even get turned into it, or just make a mistake.
7/8 months of data is not worth skipping a few jumps along the way imo. 7/8 hours maybe, but not months.
The risk you take is you get too comfortable or confident and get too close to the exclusion zone, or even get turned into it, or just make a mistake.
7/8 months of data is not worth skipping a few jumps along the way imo. 7/8 hours maybe, but not months.
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Jon474
Banned
I won't go near them after fifteen months...I strongly suggest you don't either!
[EDIT: I wouldn't do it but of course, you must do as you wish and you, or anyone else reading my post, should not take my post as anything more than a gentle reminder that seven months is a long time and getting it wrong might be...very upsetting. I wouldn't do it...because I would blow up my ship...and I would be very upset. You, or anyone else reading my post, might not blow up their ship...and so it would all be fine.]
Flying safely
Jon
Type-6E
[EDIT: I wouldn't do it but of course, you must do as you wish and you, or anyone else reading my post, should not take my post as anything more than a gentle reminder that seven months is a long time and getting it wrong might be...very upsetting. I wouldn't do it...because I would blow up my ship...and I would be very upset. You, or anyone else reading my post, might not blow up their ship...and so it would all be fine.]
Flying safely
Jon
Type-6E
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Personally I don't go near dwarfs, all to easy to misjudge the exclusion zone. I first tried this when jumping from Colonia to Sag A - was going well, about 30 Neutron jumps in and I became cocky, and didn't respect that I just need to be in the whisps at the end of the tail. I was far to close, dropped out of SC and couldn't do anything about it, was destroyed about 3 minutes later. However I like it for getting to where I want to go when exploring, and then then jumping back normally when collecting data - I made it from Colonia to Sag A in one long afternoon eventually.
What a load of nonsense. Nothing wrong with the plumes, just don't go near the star end. It charges up really quickly if you get it right. Giving advice like, DON'T DO THIS or that is child childish and smacks of ignorance
As other have said it's a risk and I agree, in your place I'd sell the data and then play with NS jets. It takes a while to get used to the rhythm of riding the jet and doing it safely and again as others mention, I never bother with WD stars (albeit they are so pretty).
Jon474
Banned
Well, get you!
I bow to your obvious experience and wisdom.
Keeping my data safe
Jon
Type-6E
They're safe as long as you pay attention and are prepared, never let your fsd go below 80% and only supercharge on the very end of the jets and they are safe
Even if you get stuck in the jets ( you shouldn't) you can escape despite what ppl are saying, just high wake to another system then you don't need an escape vector just point your ship in the general direction
If you have never tried it and are risk adverse then wait till you have cashed it in, I use the neutrons to travel on long expeditions, only 3 weeks so not quite the same scale but I've covered some 50kly and I'm still jumping using them, but then I've had plenty of practice and am confident I can escape the jets even if I get stuck in the jets by doing something stupid.
if your jumping between neutrons where they are quite dense - 1m15s from one neutron to the next I've got it down to and that makes some fast travelling indeed ( get your calcs out
)On the flip side I avoid white dwarfs they're just not worth it and their exclusions zones can be ridiculously large
Ultimately though ask yourself how annoyed you would be if you died then decide to use them
my fist play with them I had a few close encounters I didn't die though, but I did learn to survive them Jon474
Banned
Shamed by Cmdr Gibbon's harsh words D) and however unwise I may have thought the idea, I have, this very morning, tried an FSD Supercharged Jump. I watched a couple of YT videos and read a bit...and I went for it.
Cmdr Gibbon is right. With care they do seem relatively straight-forward. Of course, nothing has yet gone wrong so it may well have a different outcome in the future.
Anyway, thank you to Cmdr Gibbon for making this Explorer try something a little more dangerous. I salute you, Cmdr. o7
Flying happily (although my FSD down to 98%)
Jon
Type-6E
D) and however unwise I may have thought the idea, I have, this very morning, tried an FSD Supercharged Jump. I watched a couple of YT videos and read a bit...and I went for it.Cmdr Gibbon is right. With care they do seem relatively straight-forward. Of course, nothing has yet gone wrong so it may well have a different outcome in the future.
Anyway, thank you to Cmdr Gibbon for making this Explorer try something a little more dangerous. I salute you, Cmdr. o7
Flying happily (although my FSD down to 98%)
Jon
Type-6E
I would not have done so. The potential loss vastly outweighs the potential gain.
.... how can you tell the value of the scans that you haven't yet cashed in....?
I've done hundreds of NS-Supercharges and have only once experience a malfunction while FSD was below 90%. AFMU and concentration while alinging with the Jet and you're fine. Isn't riskier than landing on a planet, IMHO.
I've done very few WD-Supercharges and I indeed remember one exclusion-Zone incident. I went quite hot in here... But I guess you have heat sinks, like every reasonable Explorer on a Long range trip?
You can estimate the value. Tools like ED Discovery can help with that.
I've done very few WD-Supercharges and I indeed remember one exclusion-Zone incident. I went quite hot in here... But I guess you have heat sinks, like every reasonable Explorer on a Long range trip?
You can estimate the value. Tools like ED Discovery can help with that.
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