Okay I cleared my cache and it's showing no turmoil now. But, galnet is still saying we have -399 CC.
It seems that FD took back the change after a lot of people complained.
Aisling Duval - Powerplay Turn 8
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Okay I cleared my cache and it's showing no turmoil now. But, galnet is still saying we have -399 CC.
It seems that FD took back the change after a lot of people complained.
I don't remember seeing incessant NPC interdiction, and them telling me I don't belong at our own HQ today. Did they finally fix it, or was it just an anomaly?
Which I fear means we'll go in turmoil next cycle. Too many expansions.
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To avoid being deeper in turmoil, we need to fortify every system we can. If one or two are undermined, that will put us even deeper in turmoil.
If we fortify everything, we get something around 400 CC
Maybe a dumb question but do we get anything for fortifying, besides eliminating the risk of being undermined?
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When we fortify a system, we don't pay for its upkeep at the end of the week thereby freeing up more CC for us to use. If it gets undermined when we have it fortified, we pay upkeep normally. If it gets undermined without us having fortified it, we pay the increased amount described in the control tab. Other than that, nothing else
I stand corrected and will remember! So, we really need to fortify as many systems as we can!
Look for the silver shields on the map and if you go to the Galactic powers screen, go to the bottom of the list of systems on the right. The tops of the list are over done, where as those at the bottom of the lists are not hardly touched. Just too lazy to scroll down?
That's already what I'm doing. I know that the list of controlled system is sorted by those having the most fortification. I was actually shocked yesterday to see some systems being fortified over 500%. When I go down the list, I try to pick a system where my contribution might help reaching 100%. I will not go to the last one with 1% because I don't feel my 125 tons or so of documents a day can make a big difference. Yesterday, I picked HIP106213 (I think it was). It was at 83% fortification so I brought my cargo of documents there. Tonight, I will check the list again and see which ones might have a chance of fortifying before the end of the cycle. Given what the situation is at the moment, and unless a lot of players are sitting on tons and tons of documents to fortify, I don't think we'll be able to fortify all our systems. One thing I just thought about is maybe to check the potential CC provided by those systems that need to be fortified. But, again, if a system with a potential of 100CC is at 1% and would require 9,000 more documents, I don't think my little contribution will make a difference so I'd rather pick one where I can really help.
Sorry Laurent, was not saying what YOU were doing was wrong in any way. Meant to be sort of back up what you were saying 'So, we really need to fortify as many systems as we can!' What i was saying was to anyone one reading this post. The princess has loads of support and people doing shed loads of stuff in her cause, just some of them don't seem to scroll down at all. Top of the lists, 500% + sometimes, bottom at 3% and most at the bottom are not far in terms of distance etc. Not having a go in any way and every little bit helps.
No offense taken!
I'd be curious to see if those over-fortified systems happen to be close to Cubeo. If so, that would mean that some supporters are just in it for the merits with no regard for the cause...
Seems everything is changing again:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=170302
If I read that correct this means we don't have to fortify everything anymore for this cycle although not sure on when that change is planed.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=170302
If I read that correct this means we don't have to fortify everything anymore for this cycle although not sure on when that change is planed.
I think that there is a difference between 'having to fortify' and doing it because it is the wise thing to do. Without fortification, a system, can be turned in a day by another organised power. Fortified, it is not worth the other powers effort. Plus, I believe, fortification, in basically, profitable, for the princess. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. However, over 100% of any work done is a waste.
Read the message above from GNThrone:
"When we fortify a system, we don't pay for its upkeep at the end of the week thereby freeing up more CC for us to use. If it gets undermined when we have it fortified, we pay upkeep normally. If it gets undermined without us having fortified it, we pay the increased amount described in the control tab."
So, it seems that it would be very valuable to fortify every system since we wouldn't have to pay for the upkeep. More so if someone tries to undermine it.
I read through this, it seems that they're going to increase the cost of fortification. And increase the value of undermining actions. Meaning everyone is going to be easier to undermine (even neighboring imperial powers) and a lot harder to fortify.
Now if only they'll cap the fortification to 100%. God knows what those people who fortify past 500% will do but at least we don't have to worry about wasted effort on their end (but if they turn to preparation merit grinding that would be worse for us).
I see fortification as the only mean to execute a half way controlled expansion.
If we have a certain positive CC than everything will be used for the prepartion of new systems and you can't stop ppl prepareing systems.
Those prepared Systems will than be expanded in the next cycle and it's the same there hardly to stop.
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If we fortify always everything than the system will control it self over long. It happens when we are not enough ppl anymore to fortify all the systems required to keep a positive CC. The system however does the automatic control through turmoil. So to avoid turmoil and us getting exhausted with fortification it might make sense to limit the fortification to end the cycle with just a small plus.
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However as you point out that is a bit a gamble and risky. Especially with the planed changes the ability to use fortofication as control gets borken through the increase risk of undermining.
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I might be wrong but original we all thought that the green system with max exploited system counts are the best. Then arissa proved that those are the worst if you are close to turmoil. And now it seems that with the planed changes (their min formula) they do everything to make the max exploited systems the best again (why as I understand it is good for arissa but worse for us).
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Becasue the self control mechanics are very limited that we have the question is if we only expand into systems with a lot exploited systems where the income value is larger than that new min formula constant.. would that be "safe" ? Are there such system that yield a postive output also when you do not fortify them? (given no undermining). Shouldn't exist but if they do this would probabily the best to aim for.
If we have a certain positive CC than everything will be used for the prepartion of new systems and you can't stop ppl prepareing systems.
Those prepared Systems will than be expanded in the next cycle and it's the same there hardly to stop.
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If we fortify always everything than the system will control it self over long. It happens when we are not enough ppl anymore to fortify all the systems required to keep a positive CC. The system however does the automatic control through turmoil. So to avoid turmoil and us getting exhausted with fortification it might make sense to limit the fortification to end the cycle with just a small plus.
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However as you point out that is a bit a gamble and risky. Especially with the planed changes the ability to use fortofication as control gets borken through the increase risk of undermining.
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I might be wrong but original we all thought that the green system with max exploited system counts are the best. Then arissa proved that those are the worst if you are close to turmoil. And now it seems that with the planed changes (their min formula) they do everything to make the max exploited systems the best again (why as I understand it is good for arissa but worse for us).
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Becasue the self control mechanics are very limited that we have the question is if we only expand into systems with a lot exploited systems where the income value is larger than that new min formula constant.. would that be "safe" ? Are there such system that yield a postive output also when you do not fortify them? (given no undermining). Shouldn't exist but if they do this would probabily the best to aim for.