Alas, poor Radeon. I know him, horacio.

Noddie

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My trusty GPU has broken down terminally. Dug out my old R9 270 to find it's a bit glitchy and not really powerful enough for modern games. Not even sure my system doesn't have a wider problem and it's just the GPU that's gone as it could be that causing the glitches.

Does anyone know where I could get a GTX1650 Super? After years of Radeon ownership I thought i'd try a NVidia card this time. I can find some GT1030s and 1050tis, but I was hoping for a bit more.

I've looked in EBuyer and Overclockers and they don't have any. I found one on Amazon for around £220, which is ludicrous for what it is (it's a GTX1650Super - they start at around £150 & don't need fancy cooling solutions or RGB!). I looked at 1660s, but the same applies.
 

GroG79

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All card are overpriced at the moment. You can thank the GPU makers for that. Nvidia from asking too much and AMD for not completing..

You do not get a 'decent' GPU anymore for less then 200. What resolution are you gaming on? My previous gpu was a lot slower compared to the gx270 but could play ED fine on 1080p
 

Morbad

Morbad
Noddie said:
My trusty GPU has broken down terminally. Dug out my old R9 270 to find it's a bit glitchy and not really powerful enough for modern games. Not even sure my system doesn't have a wider problem and it's just the GPU that's gone as it could be that causing the glitches.
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Would be wise to try to narrow down this problem to the card before replacing it.

Noddie said:
Does anyone know where I could get a GTX1650 Super? After years of Radeon ownership I thought i'd try a NVidia card this time. I can find some GT1030s and 1050tis, but I was hoping for a bit more.

I've looked in EBuyer and Overclockers and they don't have any. I found one on Amazon for around £220, which is ludicrous for what it is (it's a GTX1650Super - they start at around £150 & don't need fancy cooling solutions or RGB!). I looked at 1660s, but the same applies.
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I'm not terribly familiar with UK etailers, but the low/mid-range segments are rather dull right now as new architectures haven't made it to these parts. Demand is also very high, so there is little incentive for them to reduce prices on the outgoing generation.

You may want to consider a used GPU from a few generations ago, if power efficiency isn't a top priority.
 

fishgotnosole

fishgotnosole
SCAN have served me well in the past. They have a range of GTX 1650 Super's listed here. If you have the PSU wattage available, and perhaps save a little more, I'd personally recommend moving up the GPU ladder. As far as I can remember, I've never seen a good review of the 1650 range.

Other CMDR's suggestions above, are also perfectly respectable. If you are able, you wouldn't go far wrong with the RX5500 XT. HTH (y)
 

Noddie

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I did examine the rx470 - it's definitely toast. No power anywhere on the card, definite "magic smoke" smell.

I run folding at home on the PC when I'm not using it. So it's probably that. To be honest it never was a good card so I'm not averse to changing it. Nvidia tend to be quieter and more efficient, hence that decision.
 

Noddie

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fishgotnosole said:
I've never seen a good review of the 1650 range.
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I think the GTX1650 I've seen some poor reviews of, largely by people who didn't understand it's point (low power draw, powered only by PCIE slot) and considered it over-priced (which I think it is). The 1650 Super is a lot more powerful and I've usually read good reviews of that, aside from one-or-two where they were essentially critical of the fact that it's a budget card and performs accordingly.

It's always the problem with reviews of anything. You don't know that else the person used that week - which can effect their judgement. In most cases they didn't have to pay for the product reviewed, which definitely colours people's judgement.
 

Morbad

Morbad
Noddie said:
It's always the problem with reviews of anything. You don't know that else the person used that week - which can effect their judgement. In most cases they didn't have to pay for the product reviewed, which definitely colours people's judgement.
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As long as the review shows how it performs, how much power it takes to perform, how loud it is, and does a tear down so you can note any potential issues, the reviewer's opinion shouldn't matter much.

The 1650 Super is perfectly fine, given it's segment, and there really isn't that much competition with it at the prices you can find it at.
 

Noddie

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Morbad said:
The 1650 Super is perfectly fine, given it's segment, and there really isn't that much competition with it at the prices you can find it at.
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Well. I can't right now.

TBH the r9 270 is actually fine at low settings. Surprisingly good, actually.
 

fishgotnosole

fishgotnosole
As a card carrying Nvidia fan boy, I concur with you both. Generally lower power draw, therefore less heat to process.

However, please be advised that the GTX 1650 Super variant, does have a 6 pin supplementary power jack on it and a minimum PSU rating of 350w. (Where as the GTX 1650 non super doesn't) The PCIe slot will deliver 75w maximum. Just something to be aware of, if not already.

For my last build I originally looked at the GTX 1650 solution, for exactly the reasons which you describe, this was before the 'supers' had launched. Basically Nvidia swapping out GDDR5 for GDDR6, more cores and a tweaked a few clock speeds.

Given the time of year, there maybe bargains to be had in the sales, combined with the launch of the new generation, which will eventually once the supply and demand issues have resolved themselves, push the last gen prices down.

Nice to meet another folder on here. Though these days I run a separate, dedicated folding machine, cobbled together from old parts as I upgraded my main machine. Costs me around 20p a day to run! 🤜🤛
 
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Morbad

Morbad
Noddie said:
Well. I can't right now.
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Stock does seem to be an issue at UK retailers.

Noddie said:
TBH the r9 270 is actually fine at low settings. Surprisingly good, actually.
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ED scales well.

Pretty sure I can still make it work on the Radeon 5650M that's in a laptop I bought for $800 twelve years ago, which scores a whopping four points in 3DMark TimeSpy. At the same time, I also won't have any difficulty pushing the limits of whatever I end up with between the RTX 3080 and 6800XT.
 

Noddie

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Well, this is fun. I bought a GTX1650 Super. Which didn't arrive and when I checked I found the supplier (Dino PC) had cancelled the order (brilliant) without telling me. so I got a refund, but this did mean I missed an offer on another one and now can't find one anywhere. So I ordered an Asus RX580 8g and it's as noisy as hell, literally every time you move the mouse you get whistles and beeps from it (coil whine, I think) so that's going back to Amazon. It did tell me one thing, though, 8Gb is pointless for me. I play at 1080p and any game with enough detailed textures to use 8Gb isn't going to run on the RX580, who's performance was only fractionally better than the RX470 anyway (literally 1 or 2 frames in it). I managed to get to 5gb on ONE game, but only buy using 150% resolution scale and ultra textures and the stupid thing was running at 30-40fps average with stutters as the GPU couldn't really handle it. So I don't see the advantage in 8Gb right now for me.

On the plus side, my 7 year old R9 270 seems to work fine on low settings, although 2gb is plainly a bit tight these days. I guess i'll keep looking for a GTX1650 Super.
 

Chalto

Chalto
Why not look for a used GTX 1070? Performance wise, it'll blitz the RX590, use less power, and run cooler. You should be able to get one for £150-200 at most, try Facebook etc.

I had an Asus Strix Gaming GTX1070 OC, prior to my Sapphire RX5700XT Nitro+ (moved from 1080p to 1440p), and that has been a fantastic upgrade.

I've since upgraded my motherboard & CPU from a Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 7 + Intel i7-8700k (5GHz all cores), to an Asus TUF Gaming x570 Plus WiFi + Ryzen 7 3700x (4.7GHz all cores, thanks to the awesome Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer II 280). Frame rates are about the same as before with the i7, but everything else is much much faster.

The plan is to get a Ryzen 9 5900x & RX6800XT once stock and prices have settled, which will then pave the way to upgrade to 4k. I'm more about the eye candy than super high fps
 

Noddie

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I avoid the used market - too many unknowns. Also at the moment it's little cheaper unless you're going for really old stuff. And the problem there is that a high-end card from 3 years ago doesn't perform any better than a mid-range card from now. Although it will typically use more power and come with no warranty. Which is a problem when - for all I know - someone has been mining on it or running it for 8-10 hours a day overclocked for the last 3 years and only sold it now due to emerging problems. I can hazard £100 on a used card, but not more than that.

TBH the R9 270 is managing quite well right now.
 
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SMcA

SMcA
+1 for the subject.

Wasn’t it John Webster who said?
“Cover Radeon’s face; mine eyes dazzle. It died young.”
 
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