All Thargoids are female is a false claim. Scavenger is a performing fertilization as 2nd Male.

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Roen Soul

Roen Soul
Severity
Moderate

Frequency
All of the time (100%)

Time of occurrence
12:00

Date of occurrence
08/08/2017

VR?
None / N/A

Location
Pleiades Sector ODS B 41 ( 62.9427 , 130.1397 )

Ship/SRV?
SRV

Ship Type
Anaconda

Commander Name
Roen Soul

Description
"All Thargoids are female."* - This claim is a bug. It can not be true.

Everything inside these Thargoid sites is shouting against the claim.

Thargoids are gynogenetic and appear to have been so for over a million years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis#Gynogenesis

Even so, they have 1 male in every million just to maintain themselves as one species. Males might not have been seen before and science usually follows the given evidence.

If scavenger has any relationship to Thargoids, then this claim* above is obviously a bug.

If these Scavengers are working as intended then we have 100% identified a performance that is only done by a male. Females produce eggs, males fertilize them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/External_fertilization

It is completely natural for certain species to have one type of male and many types of females. There are butterflies that have this weird variation/mutation around females.

We human beings are also a perfect example of variables that are natural among the same species.

I must stand firmly and claim. Thargoids do have males out there but our science has not been able to pinpoint them before. We must learn more about their species more before adjusting our claims based on lore. Note. Lores are written by humans with their knowledge based on that era.

I think it is our time to come forward and present hard evidence that,

Not all thargoids are Female. We have evidence shouting they got males.

If our evidence is working as intended, they have then expanded knowledge of their genders.
It is happening 100% of the time.

Steps to Reproduce
1. Go to the site and pay attention to the scavengers performance on the egg.

2. Pay attention to the Unknown machine, it has 2 female abdomens linked to 3rd one which does not seem to be a female either.


Additional files?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbSKQhn-qVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DujjlcYENBQ
http://imgur.com/RPeihk4
http://imgur.com/V99JwIq
http://imgur.com/2loGF64
http://imgur.com/Wpg0m4Q
 
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Strangepork

Strangepork
Roen said:
Severity
Moderate

Frequency
All of the time (100%)

Time of occurrence
12:00

Date of occurrence
08/08/2017

VR?
None / N/A

Location
Pleiades Sector ODS B 41 ( 62.9427 , 130.1397 )

Ship/SRV?
SRV

Ship Type
Anaconda

Commander Name
Roen Soul

Description
"All Thargoids are female."* - This claim is a bug. It can not be true.

Everything inside these Thargoid sites is shouting against the claim.

Thargoids are gynogenetic and appear to have been so for over a million years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis#Gynogenesis

Even so, they have 1 male in every million just to maintain themselves as one species. Males might not have been seen before and science usually follows the given evidence.

If scavenger has any relationship to Thargoids, then this claim* above is obviously a bug.

If these Scavengers are working as intended then we have 100% identified a performance that is only done by a male. Females produce eggs, males fertilize them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/External_fertilization

It is completely natural for certain species to have one type of male and many types of females. There are butterflies that have this weird variation/mutation around females.

We human beings are also a perfect example of variables that are natural among the same species.

I must stand firmly and claim. Thargoids do have males out there but our science has not been able to pinpoint them before. We must learn more about their species more before adjusting our claims based on lore. Note. Lores are written by humans with their knowledge based on that era.

I think it is our time to come forward and present hard evidence that,

Not all thargoids are Female. We have evidence shouting they got males.

If our evidence is working as intended, they have then expanded knowledge of their genders.
It is happening 100% of the time.

Steps to Reproduce
1. Go to the site and pay attention to the scavengers performance on the egg.

2. Pay attention to the Unknown machine, it has 2 female abdomens linked to 3rd one which does not seem to be a female either.


Additional files?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbSKQhn-qVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DujjlcYENBQ
http://imgur.com/RPeihk4
http://imgur.com/V99JwIq
http://imgur.com/2loGF64
http://imgur.com/Wpg0m4Q
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It's not an egg it's a blister.
 

Roen Soul

Roen Soul
Yes another good example indeed, but even these do have males.

The external fertilization is done by males only and can be seen almost in every Thargoid site. Therefore more we collect data, less we can claim them to be all females... Even the species you mentioned have males.
 

Roen Soul

Roen Soul
We might have misunderstood what we see. It requires a scan to view spawning. The event seem to be presentation of the machines action. Microscopic events need a microscope to be seen... They might offer us information that so far has been linked to wrong things. The machine itself might just be made to maximize their performance by biotechnology and ruff surgery. ... However even the machine had 2 wombs and one with none, thats a male aspect aswell. I stand behind the claim that not every thargoid is a female. If the fertilization is intentional then they are biologically males.
 
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Milkman76

M
It's ok -- MRAs aren't needed in the future. It sounds to me more like the Thargoids are all female, per the lore, and some players are actually *complaining* about that here?? Is this for real, in the BUG REPORT section??
 

Yaffle

Volunteer Moderator
Yaffle
Roen said:
Yes another good example indeed, but even these do have males.

The external fertilization is done by males only and can be seen almost in every Thargoid site. Therefore more we collect data, less we can claim them to be all females... Even the species you mentioned have males.
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Males which do nothing.

Whiptail lizards are also entirely female. While it cuts down on DNA recombination, we don't even know if thagroids use DNA. Indeed, it would be a bit bizarre if they did.

Anyhow, yes, this isn't a bug at all.
 

Cupsuki

Cupsuki
TinyPwny said:
If Thargoids don't belong in the bug section, what does?
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Nice pun I'll add but this thread shouldn't be here, it's not a bug at all.

This section is for GAME BUGS, those that can end up in your ship destroyed or your save wiped, not a lore mishap that probably is intentional. Also this turned into biology class lol
 

Mobediah Jones

Mobediah Jones
This is an enormous amount of bull and a tad smugness besides being in the absolutely wrong section.

The only thing you've discovered is something we've all seen, the 'scavangers' activity. Just because it might resemble something we've witnessed on planet earth, does not mean it's 100% proof of anything when it comes to a fictional alien race. Honestly, the second comment here saying their blisters, is just as right of an assumption as it is eggs being fertilized. For all we know, the scavengers are just applying cremés to the blisters.

Until we get more information in 2.4 don't make stupid threads like this calling previous statements false when in reality, you got nothing to prove it wrong with.
 

Milkman76

M
He's literally angry.... at the absence of males in the fiction, thus far. This is obviously quite important to him....
Where have I heard this sort of silly nonsense before... hmmm
 

Roen Soul

Roen Soul
Well what Canonn does is bug report an issue they want clearance with. Yes this is exactly where this topic belongs. No need for trolling because this is exactly what they do as well to clarify their claims.
 

Roen Soul

Roen Soul
1. The lore says they are all female. The quote from website says so.

2. The game itself forces itself with multiple ways to point out that biologically that is not true. The misbehavior is happening everywhere and all the time. Yet, this turns this topic to biology class that points out the scientific facts.
3. Since the acts goes 100% with males only then they are not following the lore. This lore is either faulty and the game itself proves it wrong. This leads to question and that turns into bug report.
4. If the act is intentional then Thargoids have males because the evidence points that way in the game. This also makes the claim in website not true.

If they add something to their game that is absolutely not supposed to be there, then where else this goes? Again it goes to bug reports.

Is it intentional to make Thargoids to have males if all these old pedia are full of opposite claims. Which is it? Is the game bugged and the claims false or the claims are true and the game is bugged?
 

Roen Soul

Roen Soul
o7MJ said:
This is an enormous amount of bull and a tad smugness besides being in the absolutely wrong section.

The only thing you've discovered is something we've all seen, the 'scavangers' activity. Just because it might resemble something we've witnessed on planet earth, does not mean it's 100% proof of anything when it comes to a fictional alien race. Honestly, the second comment here saying their blisters, is just as right of an assumption as it is eggs being fertilized. For all we know, the scavengers are just applying cremés to the blisters.

Until we get more information in 2.4 don't make stupid threads like this calling previous statements false when in reality, you got nothing to prove it wrong with.
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I think I have presented videos and screenshots form the game that proves the action that is now bug reported. - It is absolutely more than your words with less evidence.
 

Libluini

Libluini
Roen said:
I think I have presented videos and screenshots form the game that proves the action that is now bug reported. - It is absolutely more than your words with less evidence.
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And you think this will result in something besides Frontier laughing at you? Why did you ever think this was a good idea? Oh wait, your bug report explains this already. Anyway, thanks for wasting the dev's time, it's appreciated!
 

DarthBlingBling

DarthBlingBling
Look:
Male Thargoids have eyebrows at a different resting angle
Males have a deeper philtrum groove than females
Female Thargoids have shorter ears than males
Female Thargoids have larger penises than males
 
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