Dinosaurs Allow 2 T.Rexes

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So far, I've had three different counterarguments thrown at me:
♢ One claiming that 2 T.Rexes would be excessive.
♢ One claiming that using the novel's logic that the two T.Rexes simply 'tolerated' each other.
♢ And that the game claims that they're solitary (despite Lost World showing a family of them on Sorna).

I've had enough of this "two T.Rexes would be OP" nonsense.
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Look at how lonely she is :c

Ever since the inclusion of territorial behaviors in 1.4, Spinos would bicker regularly despite being allowed in groups of 2.
Now that the game has made this the case, that would render the novel's argument that "having two T.Rexes would be too much" as irrelevant since the new AI allows two of the same species to tolerate each other.

As for the solitary lifestyle that the game's database totes as being its own headcanon, I am again going to present the T.Rex family from Lost World.
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I'm not saying make it so that we can have three T.Rexes because that would be excessive. Just make it so that we can have 2 Rexes instead of just 1.
I don't even care that they will occasionally bicker because the Buck in the second film had scars that it earned while trying to impress the mate that it was with in the film; meaning that there were other Rexes that just weren't on-screen that warranted the inclusion of atleast a pair of Rexes.

Considering that breeding isn't in the game, that's my main reason for not advocating for 3 Rexes.
Well...that and the fact that all dinosaurs appear fully grown in-game but, the T.Rex was downscaled because it used the young one from the third film as a point of reference (even though it was smaller than the Lost World ones).

Long story short, I've been advocating for allowing 2 T.Rexes since June and now I actually have evidence to back my claim since ALL carnivores that allow pairings have a habit to argue with their kind.
 
It would be great if we could have at least 2 T.rex in the same fence without trying to kill each other. If the Spinosaurus tolerates another in the same enclosure, T.rex should as well.
 
It would be great if we could have at least 2 T.rex in the same fence without trying to kill each other. If the Spinosaurus tolerates another in the same enclosure, T.rex should as well.

Exactly. Spinos 'fight' each other but they never try to kill each other.
At least when it comes to T.Rexes, we know they can get along in pairs from the film (in the context of the film not in real life which is more speculative).
 
T-Rex 001 : "I'm looking for a one night stand..." * wink wink *
T-Rex 002 : "Okay, you guard the gate over there and wake me up when meals on wheels comes in."
T-Rex 001 : ??!!! * gets very angry *
 
The reason the Buck and Doe didn't fight or kill each other is because they are a breeding pair. In JWE all Rexes are Female so sticking two together wouldn't work, they'd just be competition. If they ever decide to add Male dinosaurs, then I'd say have one Male and one Female rex per enclosure with the exception being any young they're raising.
 
I can not agree with this. T-Rex as a couple yes if they are male and female. Having two females together should kill each other because they are very territorial dinosaurs. I see right as it is now.

The same could be applied to Spinosaurus. It should not be possible to have two of the same species. In the film it is an extremely aggressive and territorial dinosaur.

Both T-Rex and Spino should be the most territorial among non-hybrids and not allow to join two. Socialization turns red if there is more than one. They must be antisocial.
 
Like people already wrote, it's a pair in TLW. Male and female. We only have females in the game. That's why you don't get to put two in one paddock. Makes sense...
 
Like people already wrote, it's a pair in TLW. Male and female. We only have females in the game. That's why you don't get to put two in one paddock. Makes sense...

i just replied to your post in my other thread. i was searching here if this was ever suggested and duh of course it is. again even if they are female, WHY ARE THE SPINO, GIGA and ALL THE OTHER CARNIVORES IN PAIRS or THREES (CERATO)... (except for the irex, iraptor and ALLO - but this is also debatable actually)..

we can't say for sure that these dinosaurs or any other dinosaurs were social or solitary. bones are just bones. behavior is another thing. in the first novel even Dr. Grant said it, we can't know for sure how these animals behaved as you can learn only so little with bones..it was in the final chapter when they discovered the raptors arranged themselves in a strange but military like hierarchy pointing to the south as if wanting to migrate.

But i digress...... this isn't a factual video game (tho it tries to be, but the moment it used JP lore as its basis, some of the facts behind JP lore were inaccurate in today's time or for the most part just pure fiction..) I read somewhere that giga might have been a pack hunter, again just a theory, no one can prove nor disprove this. we can't even use the lore as basis because GIGA WASN'T in JP's lore (seeing as the initial minuscule size to be proof of this). also let's take a look at the spino, in JP3 was it seen as social? NO. then why did F.Dev make it's social to 2? Again no one knows why except the guys in frontier who decided these things. which makes it pointless to use the lore nor real world science as we are not scientists here. we're gamers just wanting to create a cool and fun Jurassic Park. And I honestly believe 2 rexes would be pretty damn cool to have in an exhibit.

which brings me to my final point IT'S A VIDEO GAME, LET'S JUST ENJOY THE GAME AND GIVE US REXES WITH 2 SOCIAL TOLERANCE ALREADY. GIGA AND SPINO ARE 2. PERIOD.
 
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Like people already wrote, it's a pair in TLW. Male and female. We only have females in the game. That's why you don't get to put two in one paddock. Makes sense...

That doesn't change that pre-JW dinosaurs could all change their sex because of the inclusion of frog DNA and since the frog DNA is still present in the established lore of Evolution's creation labs, that would still mean that T.Rexes could hypothetically coexist.

Your counterargument also doesn't take into account how we can have TWO Giganotosaurs, Spinosaurs, Majungasaurs, Baryonyx, and Suchomimus in the same enclosures despite NONE of them ever being depicted in any of the films being capable of doing so.

Since the obvious film evidence of coexisting T.Rexes is being discredited, I'll just go on record to point out that (video game or not) there were studies regarding T.Rex pack behavior that suggested that T.Rexes hunted in groups in order to take out armored herbivores like the Anylosaurus and Triceratops.
The only implications that would have suggested that T.Rexes were solitary is the consistency that there's only ONE flagship T.Rex (Rexy) on Nublar but, that in itself shouldn't be the sole piece of evidence to argue that there can only be one T.Rex since InGen/Masarani probably just found it more cost-effective to capture the living one rather than incubating a new one.

And if you want me to dig even more into details, there's an old entry from the Jurassic World (park) website that implied that there were multiple T.Rex hatchlings that were probably going to join Rexy (of course Sibo and the 2015 incident changed that).

Also, the original Jurassic Park in the novel had TWO T.Rexes that 'tolerated' each other. Even if the coexisting ones in the game simply 'tolerated' each other, the implementation of territorial disputes in 1.4 made it so that most large carnivores were capable of fighting over territory in their enclosures; thus rendering even your 'they're all female' argument as invalid.

tldr: There's enough evidence both in and out of the films to say that you're wrong and T.Rexes can live in at least groups of two.
 
I can not agree with this. T-Rex as a couple yes if they are male and female. Having two females together should kill each other because they are very territorial dinosaurs. I see right as it is now.

The same could be applied to Spinosaurus. It should not be possible to have two of the same species. In the film it is an extremely aggressive and territorial dinosaur.

Both T-Rex and Spino should be the most territorial among non-hybrids and not allow to join two. Socialization turns red if there is more than one. They must be antisocial.

See my previous reply above.
 
That doesn't change that pre-JW dinosaurs could all change their sex because of the inclusion of frog DNA and since the frog DNA is still present in the established lore of Evolution's creation labs, that would still mean that T.Rexes could hypothetically coexist.

Your counterargument also doesn't take into account how we can have TWO Giganotosaurs, Spinosaurs, Majungasaurs, Baryonyx, and Suchomimus in the same enclosures despite NONE of them ever being depicted in any of the films being capable of doing so.

Since the obvious film evidence of coexisting T.Rexes is being discredited, I'll just go on record to point out that (video game or not) there were studies regarding T.Rex pack behavior that suggested that T.Rexes hunted in groups in order to take out armored herbivores like the Anylosaurus and Triceratops.
The only implications that would have suggested that T.Rexes were solitary is the consistency that there's only ONE flagship T.Rex (Rexy) on Nublar but, that in itself shouldn't be the sole piece of evidence to argue that there can only be one T.Rex since InGen/Masarani probably just found it more cost-effective to capture the living one rather than incubating a new one.

And if you want me to dig even more into details, there's an old entry from the Jurassic World (park) website that implied that there were multiple T.Rex hatchlings that were probably going to join Rexy (of course Sibo and the 2015 incident changed that).

Also, the original Jurassic Park in the novel had TWO T.Rexes that 'tolerated' each other. Even if the coexisting ones in the game simply 'tolerated' each other, the implementation of territorial disputes in 1.4 made it so that most large carnivores were capable of fighting over territory in their enclosures; thus rendering even your 'they're all female' argument as invalid.

tldr: There's enough evidence both in and out of the films to say that you're wrong and T.Rexes can live in at least groups of two.

Well if you have 100% genome, there shouldn't be any frog DNA included to fill in the missing gaps, as there are no gaps... And no I don't think Spino, Giganoto etc should tolerate others. Only the dinosaurs we've found pack fossils of. And yes I know they found 3 juvenile Rexes together at a dig site, but these weren't fully grown and all the other evidence points to them being loners. Alot of animals today stay together and hunt, until they are fully grown. Leopards, Lions etc.

And in the novel there's a grown Rex and a juvenile. They stayed away from each other at all times... They were just in the same huge paddock, but they never interferred according to the book.

And what evidence are you talking about? We have no evidence of 2 grown Rexes living together. Not in the books, movies, or from fossil records.
 
Well if you have 100% genome, there shouldn't be any frog DNA included to fill in the missing gaps, as there are no gaps... And no I don't think Spino, Giganoto etc should tolerate others. Only the dinosaurs we've found pack fossils of. And yes I know they found 3 juvenile Rexes together at a dig site, but these weren't fully grown and all the other evidence points to them being loners. Alot of animals today stay together and hunt, until they are fully grown. Leopards, Lions etc.

And in the novel there's a grown Rex and a juvenile. They stayed away from each other at all times... They were just in the same huge paddock, but they never interferred according to the book.

And what evidence are you talking about? We have no evidence of 2 grown Rexes living together. Not in the books, movies, or from fossil records.

look sir, even you yourself, you say that the other carnivores shouldn't tolerate a social more than 2. but matter of fact is frontier already went ahead and did that. so why not the t-rex? instead of nerfing the other carnivores, WHY NOT BUFF THE T-REX AND MAKE HER SOCIAL TO TWO. again fossils only show so much, they don't paint the whole picture. we can't say for sure how t-rex behaved. there's no point in using the lore as basis because spino and giga and all the rest weren't depicted as social nor present canon-wise but their in-game their social is 2 so that's null. real world science can't be used also as it's not 100% accurate. theories and discoveries change with the passing of time. they get proved or disproved... Soooooooo why not just go ahead and make the t-rex 2 because we just wanna have fun right.

PS. lions stay in prides. of all the big cats lions are the most social. yes males leave their prides when they become juveniles (if they're not killed by the alpha male) and become wanderers. but they tend to find or take over a different pride as per their instinct compels them seeing as this is the most efficient survival tactic.
 
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look sir, even you yourself, you say that the other carnivores shouldn't tolerate a social more than 2. but matter of fact is frontier already went ahead and did that. so why not the t-rex? instead of nerfing the other carnivores, WHY NOT BUFF THE T-REX AND MAKE HER SOCIAL TO TWO. again fossils only show so much, they don't paint the whole picture. we can't say for sure how t-rex behaved. there's no point in using the lore as basis because spino and giga and all the rest weren't depicted as social nor present canon-wise but their in-game their social is 2 so that's null. real world science can't be used also as it's not 100% accurate. theories and discoveries change with the passing of time. they get proved or disproved... Soooooooo why not just go ahead and make the t-rex 2 because we just wanna have fun right.

PS. lions stay in prides. of all the big cats lions are the most social. yes males leave their prides when they become juveniles (if they're not killed by the alpha male) and become wanderers. but they tend to find or take over a different pride as per their instinct compels them seeing as this is the most efficient survival tactic.

I wouldn't be bothered with the ability to have 2 Rexes. I'm just saying by movie standards AND scientific standards, it probably isn't accurate.

And yes lions are the only cats that live together. All the other big cats are living alone. So if we assume from nature today, that dinosaurs had sort of the same social skills, T-Rex would most likely live on it's own. It would be very few predators, that would live in packs... Like today.

But if you feel so strongly about having two Rexes, sure... I wouldn't mind. Just seems weird to me. Unless we get male dinosaurs as well.
 
Sure the T.Rexes in the film were a male and female but, it kind of contradicts the whole implication that all the dinosaurs were cloned as females unless they changed their gender in order to mate (like in the first book and film). I just feel that having one T.Rex is kind of boring since the developers went out of their way to make it so that all the other carnivores could live in pairs (with the Allosaurus being the only exclusion from this concept).

At the end of the day, most theories are just that. Theories.
Its just a matter that I'm not really fond that Frontier went out of their way to make it so that the T.Rex is a loner. Its not even a matter of them liking each other while they're in the same paddock cause none of the carnivores do. They all fight or instigate fights over territory regardless of what type they are.
Metriacanthosaurs will fight with Metriacanthosaurs, Baryonyx will fight Baryonyx, Suchomimus will fight with Suchomimus, etc.
They all 'tolerate' each other. They don't need to like (or mount) each other to be in the same paddock.
I'm not saying that 2 T.Rexes should be the requisite at all times. Just (like you said) available as an option without having all hell break loose even if the paddock is the size of Coney Island.
 
While I get where those counter arguments are coming from, I agree with you points as well, I honestly don't see the harm in two T-Rex's in one pen. this is a vocal issue here and on reddit, I have good faith they well let 2 rex's be a thing come the next update.
 
The truth is that it would be great to increase the social level of T.rex, but Allosaurus also needs to tolerate at least one more inside the enclosure
 
While I get where those counter arguments are coming from, I agree with you points as well, I honestly don't see the harm in two T-Rex's in one pen. this is a vocal issue here and on reddit, I have good faith they well let 2 rex's be a thing come the next update.

One can only hope~

The truth is that it would be great to increase the social level of T.rex, but Allosaurus also needs to tolerate at least one more inside the enclosure

Yeah I kind of agree considering how small it is.
 
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