Am I At An Extreme Disadvantage?

I have not seen any CMDR ranked anything else than harmless, and my friend sees me as harmless altought I am at expert rating.

Yup, currently bugged for player targets. Personally I find using a HOTAS gives me much better control, I use an X52 Pro, recently upgraded from an X36. Mouse and keyboard is just way too sensitive, but probably suits the diehard PvP twitchers. As others have said, you are always going to meet players way better and way worse than you. The trick is not to get too discouraged when some nasty little ganker with the reflexes of a mongoose hands you your ass on a plate.
 
Try binding thrusters to the hat switch. You'll have both hands-on-stick then when needed. I use an old MS Sidewinder 2, with a similar throttle placement.

Also consider setting your throttle to full range, with a small deadzone in the middle. You may find it more accurate, such as when using reverse thrusters to slow down.

I have never felt much of an urge to upgrade my trusty MS Sidewinder 2

As well as binding the u/d/l/r thrusters to the hat switch, on any joystick you can bind the head look directions to the same hat switch.

When you are in 'head-look mode' the thrusters do not fire, giving your hat switch duel purpose.

Not only this, you can bind secondary keyboard thruster keys on the keyboard just in case you want to thrust about while in head-look mode.

I've had it set up like this since Alpha (even asked Frontier to prevent the thrusters from firing in head-look mode, and they fixed it)
 
Yup, currently bugged for player targets. Personally I find using a HOTAS gives me much better control, I use an X52 Pro, recently upgraded from an X36. Mouse and keyboard is just way too sensitive, but probably suits the diehard PvP twitchers. As others have said, you are always going to meet players way better and way worse than you. The trick is not to get too discouraged when some nasty little ganker with the reflexes of a mongoose hands you your ass on a plate.

Well thank goodness I am rubbish, because to be good, means one must be nasty and/or a ganker! Good to know.
 
Are we talking with or without shield banks?

I play with mouse and keyboard with 6 player kills on my conscience flying cobra and viper. I can't think of ever loosing in my cobra with 7 shield bank charges or my viper with 11 shield bank charges. Seriously shield banks are your 100% secure get free out of jail card. Of course you need to not pop them to late. I am no ace at all btw.
This is why smart PvP players pack big burst damage guns. Shield cells take a little time to kick in, so if you shields go down quickly due to, I dunno, 2xClass 2 rail guns hitting you, things can get tricky quickly.
 
Every online combat flight sim has had this problem. A Darwinian selection takes place, as the sharks kill all the fish off, and start eating each other.

See: World Of Warplanes, with an NA server population of less than a thousand. They killed off all the prey (among other issues).

There is no "I Win" equipment to address this. Even RL experience and training can do little when you are pitted against the best twitch players.

Trust me. I know.

Ralph, CPT, USAF, 429th TFS.
 
Every online combat flight sim has had this problem. A Darwinian selection takes place, as the sharks kill all the fish off, and start eating each other.

See: World Of Warplanes, with an NA server population of less than a thousand. They killed off all the prey (among other issues).

There is no "I Win" equipment to address this. Even RL experience and training can do little when you are pitted against the best twitch players.

Trust me. I know.

Ralph, CPT, USAF, 429th TFS.
War Thunder?
 
Hey everyone. So I've been playing since late alpha, so I know my way around, and have earned myself a few kills over the past 8 months. But now that we're well into release and we're getting more and more players, I'm starting to become less and less confident in my fighting abilities. I'm having to limp away after a kill with damage I never would have taken a month or two ago. And I'm wondering if it's me just needing more practice, or if it's the fact that I don't have a HOTAS.

Currently, I'm using a T.16000M Thrustmaster joystick with WASD (well, really "IJKM", being left-handed) for lateral and vertical thrust. (With L and O as throttle overrides.) I have the Thrustmaster's throttle set to one way, so pulling it all the way down simply halts thrust rather than reverses, with a button toggling between forward and reverse thrust.

I'm just proficient enough using FA-Off to take off and land (with effort), and I'll tap it and boost to make tight corners in combat, but I feel like since I don't have an actual throttle control in my hand, that my precision while using it isn't as good as it should be. Though to be perfectly frank, even if I had one, I don't have the dexterity in my right hand to hit any buttons while gripping the throttle anyway.

I've played flight games all my life, and I'd consider myself a decent pilot. But I'd always love to get better.


I realize the best thing I can do is practice. But I'd like any advice others might have as well.

To me UI is super important. I use a T-flight HOTAS (http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-Flight-Hotas-Flight-Playstation-3/dp/B001CXYMFS). Very entry-level but works great. You see the little on the left top of the stick? You can use that for throttle (both vertical and lateral, both possible at the same time). It means you can now do what you do with one hand less. :) It frees it up for the throttle. On the throttle your thumb is on three little knobs, so you can use your power distributor without having to move your hand. So you dont have to look at your fingers, you can keep looking at the screen while having more control than you do now.
 
War Thunder?

Even more brutal, but with a better flight physics model, and larger playerbase. Prettier, too.

I'm old, have arthritis, and just don't enjoy "hassling" (as we called it) very much anymore. I want a game that I can use my brains and experience, and a better social environment. I'm a space geek as well.

PvP combat sims eventually enter a Darwinian death-spiral, where the most skilled/equipped players drive off the rest of the players. That is why I play in solo mode. If the NPC AI's are scaled up to meet the best of the open mode players, and are shared with the solo environment, I will welcome our new Thargoid Overlords. :(
 
You shouldn't aim to be the best PvP player but to get the most fun out of the game.
Players with DK2 and X52 Pro have a natural advantage over others. I am one of those lucky and i can't imagine to play this game without this 2 tools anymore and not because i want to be good in PvP but because this 2 Tools makes this game THE GAME.
All I still use the keyboard for is to exit the game or to answer a comander which is a bit tricky and the negative point but really worth to pay as price.
So if you really want to get more out of the Game I recomment to get one or both of this Tools and enter another world.
 

BlackReign

Banned
Hey everyone. So I've been playing since late alpha, so I know my way around, and have earned myself a few kills over the past 8 months. But now that we're well into release and we're getting more and more players, I'm starting to become less and less confident in my fighting abilities. I'm having to limp away after a kill with damage I never would have taken a month or two ago. And I'm wondering if it's me just needing more practice, or if it's the fact that I don't have a HOTAS.

Currently, I'm using a T.16000M Thrustmaster joystick with WASD (well, really "IJKM", being left-handed) for lateral and vertical thrust. (With L and O as throttle overrides.) I have the Thrustmaster's throttle set to one way, so pulling it all the way down simply halts thrust rather than reverses, with a button toggling between forward and reverse thrust.

I'm just proficient enough using FA-Off to take off and land (with effort), and I'll tap it and boost to make tight corners in combat, but I feel like since I don't have an actual throttle control in my hand, that my precision while using it isn't as good as it should be. Though to be perfectly frank, even if I had one, I don't have the dexterity in my right hand to hit any buttons while gripping the throttle anyway.

I've played flight games all my life, and I'd consider myself a decent pilot. But I'd always love to get better.

I realize the best thing I can do is practice. But I'd like any advice others might have as well.

I fly with a Warthog and can't imagine using anything else. The precision of this system is incredible. Where do you think your weaknesses lie:
- Can you get on an enemies six?
- Can you get an enemy off your six?
- Do you use thrust in combination with other axis moves?
- Are you using your weapons correctly (Lasers vs sheilds, cannons vs hull)?
- Can you turn with the enemy?

Dog fighting does take practice, mining in the early going really helped me as much as bounty hunting.
 
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