An odyssey with cockpit NPC crew on my side

Ok, the Odyssey season is coming soon and I can’t think of a better timing for a request reminder. Ulysses wasn’t alone on his ‘odyssey’ back to Ithaque ; he had a crew and fellows on his ship, and he could see them !

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I know commanders can now have a crew too in ED, but when I wrote about it in 2016 (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/npc-crew.227533/post-4023767), I was of course talking about some LIFE in my cockpit, about crew members that would sit next to me in those empty chairs. The lack of that feature had indeed got me to stop playing for years and I´ve only been back in the game for one month, with the announcement of the upcoming next season release (and the ability to walk on planets and stations) ; which gave me back some hope...

Although, with so many players asking for cockpit npc crew, there are a few things I did never understand :
  • What makes it so difficult to add that feature since the characters arleady are modelled for multicrew ?
  • Is it possible that the creators of one of the most realistic space exploration games out there be so unaware of the absurdity of being alone for long trips in a three cockpit seats massive ship that they still haven't made fixing it a priority ?
  • Why in years did they never take the time (no matter how rude ignoring us customers that way may look) to deign to give us an answer or a piece of explanation about that ?
So, Frontier Developments, are we worth an answer ? Or is there a ‘frontier’ between us ?

If there’s any good reason why you haven’t yet added that feature nor will ever add it, don’t you think we at least deserve to understand, so that disappointment and pique can fade into resignation ?

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2020 : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/put-npc-crew-in-empty-seats-in-your-cockpit-bridge.546316/

2019 : Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/aes0uv/im_tired_of_empty_seats/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3


2019 : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/why-cant-we-see-npcs-that-we-hired-in-cockpit.507656/

2019 : https://steamcommunity.com/app/359320/discussions/0/1642041106374383798/

2019 : Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/c173bv/showing_active_npc_crew_in_a_spare_cockpit_chair/


2018 : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/fill-the-empty-seats.444367/

2018 : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/petition-npc-crew-model-in-copilot-seat.462709/

2018 : Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/9qvnx0/why_does_the_vulture_have_a_secondary_seat/


2018 : Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/7z14pv/can_you_have_copilots_sitting_in_your_empty_seats/


2017 : Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/7b5f8j/what_about_npc_inside_our_ships/


2017 : Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/79kvwo/why_dont_npcs_appear_as_crew_on_the_bridge/


2016 : Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/52rv45/empty_copilot_seat/


2016 : https://steamcommunity.com/app/359320/discussions/0/305509857557332175/

2015 : Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/37sxrs/we_need_npcs_to_full_the_empty_chairs_on_our_ships/



And so many more...

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It beats having them in the cargo hold or wherever they actually sit before deploying in a fighter. I know they want to encourage multiplayer but I think you should still be able to have two of your NPC crew members on the bridge - even if the function is only decorative for the time being. The best implementation of a bridge crew I have seen so far has been STO where each member also provides bonuses for the ship or ground team. In all fairness, I'm glad that Frontier focused on the solid flight mechanics first and didn't add too much too quickly to result in disappearing NPCs or ones that blocked the HUD in the middle of a dogfight. The new expansion or shortly after would be a good as time as any to add the feature.
 
What makes it so difficult to add that feature since the characters arleady are modelled for multicrew ?
FDEV: Hey look here you will play an FPS... ..look here the guns.... ...and there the tools... ...have I already told you about the guns?
Is it possible that the creators of one of the most realistic space exploration games out there be so unaware of the absurdity of being alone for long trips in a three cockpit seats massive ship that they still haven't made fixing it a priority ?
Don't get me started about how much ED is realistic and how much is fantasy... ...let's just say that there are other games that have much more realistic flight models out there... ...and look they were developed with far less resources, developer hours and money...
Why in years did they never take the time (no matter how rude ignoring us customers that way may look) to deign to give us an answer or a piece of explanation about that ?
FDEV: Hey look here the guns... ...and look there the tools... ...if you will trigger the gun the gun will shoot... ...hey look... ...if you will move the character foward it will move forward... ...how astonishing is our character controller... ...look at it, its features... ...if you change the tool mode, the tool will change its mode... ...simply fantastic...
why you haven’t yet added that feature nor will ever add it
FDEV: Hey look at that ray that is coming out from that gun... ...do you know that if you shoot and you aim at the enemies you could eventually hit them? Look at the hit boxes we made such wonderful hit boxes....
don’t you think we at least deserve to understand, so that disappointment and pique can fade into resignation ?
FDEV: and finally legs... ...everyone want legs... ...above all the legs:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUDcTLaWJuo
 
I'm guessing with apex transportation, they have said you will be seated in one of the cockpit seats, there must be an npc flying the craft. Its not going to be an empty seat with no pilot like vanilla ED.

I'm hoping that if that's the case, then they really have no excuse considering it gets done with space taxis.
 
A very "realistic" space simulation game with very unrealistic stuff all over the place.

  • No visible copilot/bridge crew, not even their holograms.
  • "Advanced" docking computers that keep banging and crashing your ship against station walls and/or other ships.
  • No navigational computers in the 34th century. You know, like airplanes used to have in the 21st century. Must find those coordinates yourself. Get a compass or something.
  • "Professional" (NPC) pirates that have no manifest scanners. Will interdict you (and most likely get killed by you) just to see if you're "carrying anything nice" in your CARGO RACK-LESS ship.
  • Celestial bodies that will pull you with their gravity for minutes, but will not kill you if you crash into them head on at full speed.
  • A ship parrot that chirps annoyingly to give you warning about an imminent impact that has absolutely no consequence other than a short delay in your schedule.
  • A very "smart" COVAS that will warn you about every little thing imaginable ("Collector limpet expired"), but will not give you a simple heads up like "DESTINATION CLOSE. DECELERATING." with enough time and distance so you can avoid those dreaded loops of shame.

These are just off the top my head. I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot more.
 
FDEV: Hey look here you will play an FPS... ..look here the guns.... ...and there the tools... ...have I already told you about the guns?

FDEV: Hey look here the guns... ...and look there the tools... ...if you will trigger the gun the gun will shoot... ...hey look... ...if you will move the character foward it will move forward... ...how astonishing is our character controller... ...look at it, its features... ...if you change the tool mode, the tool will change its mode... ...simply fantastic...

FDEV: Hey look at that ray that is coming out from that gun... ...do you know that if you shoot and you aim at the enemies you could eventually hit them? Look at the hit boxes we made such wonderful hit boxes....

FDEV: and finally legs... ...everyone want legs... ...above all the legs:

This pretty much sums up every Odyssey Update/Supercruise News video of the last six months.
 
FDEV: Hey look here the guns... ...and look there the tools... ...if you will trigger the gun the gun will shoot... ...hey look... ...if you will move the character foward it will move forward... ...how astonishing is our character controller... ...look at it, its features... ...if you change the tool mode, the tool will change its mode... ...simply fantastic...
LOL ! So true...
 
Really there's no point; it could be argued the VR community shouted til we were blue in the face and got nothing.

It's not that they don't hear, it's just they won't listen....🤷‍♂️

I was making a joke about the capital letters, and the OP got it I think!
 
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