Anaconda Thruster Comparisons (A7 vs D7)

[Derthek]

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[CMDR Noodles]

Are there any tests that show the time it takes for +100% throttle to reach -100% throttle and vice versa? This could give you a general idea of the starting/stopping power of each thruster.

Very good thread! It's nice to get some hard numbers.

Afterthought;
I wonder if 7D thrusters perform the same as 7A thrusters when the anaconda is under the optimal mass for the 7D thrusters. I always assumed 7A would always be better than 7D regardless of mass, however these results show barely and difference. I'm wondering if a full D kit conda handles a well as an A kit.

I endeavored to measure engine performance on a fully combat fit Anaconda with a uniform mass. Between the two engine types, all other equipment remained constant, and the only mass differences between the two tests were the mass differences between the two engines. The mass of the Anaconda with D7 thrusters was 1,284 tons, with A7 thrusters 1,332 tons.

The optimal mass for 7D thrusters is 1,620 tons, well above the fit, so your concern was already addressed.

 

[Derthek]

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[Jpotter]

Agree but it would be difficult to do... mainly due to human error creeping in and muddying the results.
@SJA could do it with AI though... although FD doesn't like releasing metadata/stat/much at all (come through for us SJA!!!)

True - pilot skill would make a difference. We'd need a 'Stig' test pilot so to say.... we'll at least a pilot that could put up consistent results. I was actually thinking the square path could be around one of those stations - starting at the entrance, racing around the station and stopping again at the entrance (start from a complete stop, come to a complete stop). It would be very much a subjective test vs. the objective results CMDR Noodles put together (which are very good btw); but repeating many times and averaging the results would likely show the benefits of higher class thrusters.

Really I didn't come here to knock Noodles tests - but I wanted to point out that performance isn't based solely on stats. Though the stats do matter very much, in the real world (or space simulation in this case) small differences in performance numbers can lead to much larger differences in the end result than you may initially have believed

 

[Vincent Starson]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you forgot to mention the difference in maximum speed. Boosting with A7 thrusters should give you ~270m/s top speed vs ~250m/s for the 7D.

 

[Cliffson]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you forgot to mention the difference in maximum speed. Boosting with A7 thrusters should give you ~270m/s top speed vs ~250m/s for the 7D.

Is that at 50% of optimum mass or at 'usual operating mass'

I've started putting together some mass and Class testing data and so far it looks like a 16% improvement to speed + boost for 50% optimum With A Class (so boost 278 for a Conda) *[only tested Cobra and Vulture so far]

 

[Vincent Starson]

Is that at 50% of optimum mass or at 'usual operating mass'

I've started putting together some mass and Class testing data and so far it looks like a 16% improvement to speed + boost for 50% optimum With A Class (so boost 278 for a Conda) *[only tested Cobra and Vulture so far]

With my tests it was with all weapons (pulse lasers, huge cannon) and cargo racks equipped, and a 4A shield iirc. It's been a while.

 

[Cmdr Lassan]

Great work, thanks Cmdr Noodles.
I was indeed asking myself if i should save money to buy better thrusters. But regarding the price of A7 thrusters, it just doesn't seem to be worth it.
Perhaps when the moment for pvp is there, i'll upgrade them but untill then...
Thanks for your great contribution to the community
Cmdr Lassan
Repped, of course

 

[deathmagnet]

I wonder,

If D's are that close to A's in performance. How close would B's performance be to A's? Instead of 2.28MJ extra power you are only using 1.88MJ more and they cost about 40 million less than A's. Yes yes, I know they weigh a ton but I don't care how much my combat ship weighs. I have my reasons for running B's on combat ship and I am very happy doing so.

If D--->A is only on average an 8% difference I would speculate B--->A would only be a only be 2-3% different, which could be made up with proper use of FA off. So for 40 million less than A's you nearly get A performance.

Edit: +1

 

[Quineloe]

What about 6D Thrusters? How big is the difference between 7D and 6D?

 

[Archimedes Crew]

I did this test myself A6 vs D7 thrusters for the conda. Gives exactly the same speed and boost speed. BUT D7 is lighter (affects fsd range) slightly less power hungry and much cheaper (affects cost and insurance). So there you go.

 

[CMDR Noodles]

I did this test myself A6 vs D7 thrusters for the conda. Gives exactly the same speed and boost speed. BUT D7 is lighter (affects fsd range) slightly less power hungry and much cheaper (affects cost and insurance). So there you go.

I really hope that's the case. Sometime next week I'll be repeating the same test using A6s vs my data on D7s and I'll post it

 

[camper]

I did this test myself A6 vs D7 thrusters for the conda. Gives exactly the same speed and boost speed. BUT D7 is lighter (affects fsd range) slightly less power hungry and much cheaper (affects cost and insurance). So there you go.

Just tested both. My mass unladen is 860t:
- D7:
-- 2pips max speed = 137
-- 4pips max speed = 190
-- 4pips boost = 252
- A6:
-- 2pips max speed = 144
-- 4pips max speed = 199
-- 4pips boost = 264

not a big difference, but still.