Analysis of most likely/needed animals 2023 edition 2.0 (1 pack down) no flying birds/fully marine animals

As I've done before with the last few releases, I'd like to go over the list of animals that we have yet to get that would be the most likely or most needed. This is especially relevant today after the reveal. For reference, the last thread was from December and is https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...-no-flying-birds-fully-marine-animals.611355/

Animals with a high level of general recognizability that we do not have any of: - We're getting a sloth and even though it's an exhibit animal it totally counts. I know it's the sloth most people didn't want, but I don't know how likely we'll be to get a two-toed sloth. Nonetheless, that's a major one crossed off this list. The Walrus and and Old World Porcupine now head up this list, and I'm going to include the Lagomorophs - the Rabbits and Hares, since discussion of that group has picked up with the idea of a farm pack or petting zoo pack. For the standard exhibits, a Cobra and a Chameleon are still not in the game yet.

Animals that are high profile enough to stand out individually by their absence: All of the above obviously, and I'll include the Tasmanian Devil and Kiwi in this as well. They may not be quite as well known to the general public or casual player, but they still come up in discussion. Often. The Secretary Bird and Wolverine are probably second-tier for this particular point.

Animals from a family that have low representation in the game versus their extant species: We're getting a third pig!!!! And for the sake of the peace of the forum I hope it's not the last pig. Nonetheless, the rule of three to a family applies here and pigs are now out of the threshold of low visibility. When last discussed, Equids were still represented by only two species, so I do think it's probable that we will get a third species. And to cut/paste from the last round:

With a smaller number of extant species, these next couple are not quite as urgent, but still worthy of note. The Procyonidae family could use another representative such as the Coati, but I could understand if we ended up not getting it. We also have only 1 Viverridae, and I feel like we could use another, I'd probably pick the African Civet but other options are out there.

If we wanted to break down the bovidae with sheep, goats and cows, we could, but they're still all under same family.

NEW WORLD PRIMATES - Oh boy, this is one of two big topics. This is a big problem especially after the new pack's reveal. Sure we got another Old World Primate (OWP) and while a Baboon is highly requested, I think if we got one of those, OWP would have okay representation.

But nothing could be further from the case with New World Primates (NWP). We have......one.. We need at least another two...at least...and even half a dozen would be welcome. I mean, it's still baffling how much Frontier missed the target on this one, as good as the upcoming pack may be, it's going to be negatively weighed down because there's not a single NWP included. This is by far the most critical overall group of mammals to be added, and I truly hope that Frontier takes note of the general reaction regarding this pack and has some great NWP in store for us in the coming year.

The other big topic is habitat birds. I think many of us thought for sure we'd get exhibit birds with this pack...but nope. We don't even know if we'll ever get them. But even if we don't...there's still many habitat appropriate birds to add in, in addition to the aforementioned Kiwi and Secretary Bird. It really does feel at times that Frontier just doesn't really care about birds at all. If I had to make one huge critique in the roster, and what I feel is truly missing from the game right now, it would be that birds come across as an afterthought. That since flying mechanics are not in the game, they really only want to stick with non-flying birds (with a couple of exceptions) and even with non-flying birds, they give us the bare minimum.

Animals in general from regions that need more representation: , South America rears its head again, and no one is surprised. I mean, look at the above point. The thing is that South America has such a vast diversity of life, that having what we have is just barely scratching the surface. In addition to NWP, the non-rainforest/tropical areas of South American could use a little filling in. The Spectacled Bear, Rhea and Patagonian Mara are all popularly talked about choices, but they're not the only ones out there. Additionally, the Middle East/North Africa is still somewhat barren. But then again, it's somewhat barren literally. But not as much as this game shows. It could use another two-three species at minimum.

Animals that have signs/props/something in the game already: Nothing's changed the Black Rhino, the Dromedary and the aforementioned Cobra all have props but no corresponding animals. Truth be on the first two, I really don't personally care if we get them or not, but it is weird it's gone on this long.

So that, to me, is it. Look, we have probably three packs left for this year. We don't know what will happen after that. Personally I'm hoping that we'll see another two for next year, and if we were extremely lucky we'd get content through all of 2024 and have seven packs left! But it could also be worst case scenario of three packs left (I guess worse would be less than that but I won't entertain that possibility yet). All in all, while these are all important and logical inclusions, it comes down to Habitat Birds and New World Primates as what's ultimately needed the most.
 
Walrus
Crested porcupine
2 new world monkeys
Baboon
2nd macaque
Australian monitor
Tree kangaroo
Tassie devil
Coati species
Kiwi
Freshwater turtle
Fur seal
Ibis species
Stork species
Pelican species
Swan species
Duck species
Peccary
Secretary bird
Wolverine
Honey badger
Small mustelid (stoat)
Asian antelope
Asian caprid
Asian bovid
African crocodile
Rabbit/Hare
2nd south american rodent

These seem like the most likely inclusion for more animals imo. I'm trying to avoid personal preference here. These are ro varying to degrees of course. More people k ow of porcupines then tree kangaroos but it's just an overall evaluation of what is likely.
 
To mix your list with a more general list, here is a list of animals that I feel are needed to make PZ more well-rounded:
  • Porcupine
  • Tasmanian Devil(highly requested on the forums, and arguably one of the most well-known animals not in game yet)
  • Wolverine
  • 1 more Equid species
  • 1 more Deer species(I choose Elk) and I think an Asian deer species would also be good
  • 1-2 more Monkey species(preferably New World - I go with Howler Monkey and a Tamarin)
  • a Baboon
  • 1 more ground bird(Secretary Bird or Roadrunner are my choices)
  • 1-2 more small/medium cats

These will obviously overlap with the above list, but for biome/regional needs:
  • 2 more Highland/Mountain animals
  • 1-2 more Desert animals
  • At least 3 more animals from South America
  • 1-2 more Oceania animals

For Exhibits:
  • 1-2 more snakes
  • Chameleon
  • At least 2 smaller lizard species

I could go on with wading birds/waterfowl that could go in game with current mechanics, or flying birds as well, but there are so few in game that making any list would just be exhaustive.
I see a lot of people saying Walrus or Manatee, but I honestly see either of them as long shots.
 
@The_Riot22 some good additions! With the Walrus, I put them in this list solely for the fact that they are one of the few remaining animals that a very casual player would recognize. I realize that many people who play Planet Zoo are not casual animal enthusiasts, but I would suspect that those casual players still make a larger amount of players than we here on the forum realize.

On the other hand, the Manatee, I understand the desire to see it in, but not the rationale. It's a fully marine animal that doesn't spend any time on land at all. The gate system we have right now doesn't accomodate for that; and as we see in mods the aquatic animals flop around on land a bit until they make it in water, something that's fine for mods but I'm sure Frontier would not have as official coding. And yet while that's somehow understood and keeps other fully marine animals from making wishlists, the Manatee still continues to illogically pop up by themselves. It's just strange IMO.
 
Yeah it just doesn't make sense to add the Manatee without adding other aquatic animals like sea turtles or fish...creatures which I think most of us have accepted as almost certainly NOT being added to the game.
But I understand the desire. I too would love to see Manatee added to the game.
 
I'd split it up into a few groups:

1. Specific iconic species

These are ones where a very specific species is famous enough that it feels essential.

Dromedary Camel
Black Rhino
Nile Crocodile
Wolverine
Musk Ox
Sea Otter
Wild Boar
Tasmanian Devil

2. Unrepresented Groups
There are some families where I'm not too fussed about which specific species gets in, but not having any feels conspicuous.

  • Baboons
  • Coati
  • Echidnas
  • Tree Kangaroos
  • Storks
  • Howler Monkeys
  • Old World Porcupines
  • Tamarins
  • Cobras
  • Chameleons
  • Geckos
  • Pheasants

3. Birds
It feels really weird that it's a couple of packs since the fruit bat and still no bird release? For me, absolute minimum are the following 3, just because they seem to always be heavily features in how zoos advertise themselves. There are plenty of others of course, but these 3 are big blocks in making it feel zoo-y.

  • Scarlet Macaw
  • Blue and Gold Macaw
  • Snowy Owl

There are definitely other gaps, the 3 remaining bears for instance spring to mind, or padding out the goats and bovines, or just all the variety if primates we can get our hands on, but to me the above are the ones that feel noticable in their absense?
 
What I feel I need rather than want atm:

1. South American "filler animals" - Patagonian Mara, Collared Peccary, South American Coati...
2. A colourful South American Bird - Roseate Spoonbill, American Flamingo or Scarlet Ibis
3. indian/African Crested Porcupine
4. New World Primates - Squirrel Monkey, Howler Monkey, Saki Monkey, Golden Lion Tamarin

Of course, there are dozens more animals that I would like, but these are priorities for me personally.
 
What I feel I need rather than want atm:

1. South American "filler animals" - Patagonian Mara, Collared Peccary, South American Coati...
2. A colourful South American Bird - Roseate Spoonbill, American Flamingo or Scarlet Ibis
3. indian/African Crested Porcupine
4. New World Primates - Squirrel Monkey, Howler Monkey, Saki Monkey, Golden Lion Tamarin

Of course, there are dozens more animals that I would like, but these are priorities for me personally.
Definitely to all of these. It's interesting to talk about needs versus wants. My major wants are the two in my signature, the Wolverine and an Old World Porcupine. They are not what's most needed. Which as in my original post, are habitat birds and new world primates. There's plenty in life we do because we need to rather than want to, why should it be any different in this game lol.
 
Because Frontier still seems to be hesitant for flying birds I won’t include them, on my list for now, if I did it would be 2-3 pages long. But I even think outside of birds there are still a lot of animals that need to be in game.

Mammals
1. Dromedary Camel
2. Black Rhino
3. Tasmanian Devil
4. Wolverine
5. Peer David’s Deer
6. Somali Wild Donkey
7. Another bat species, preferably an insectivorous one
8. Elands of any kind
9. Monkeys: golden lion tamarin and black howler are some examples
10. While it may be a “clone” I would love a black bear
11. Porcupine of any kind
12. Agouti or Patagonian Cavy
13. Naked Mole Rat
14. Peccary

Birds
1. Secretary Bird
2. Whooping or Sandhill Crane
3. Shoebill
4. Grey Crowned Crane
5. Marabou stork or Saddle Billed Stork
6. Ground Hornbill
7. Kiwi
8. Burrowing Owl
9. Rockhopper Penguin
10. Little Blue Penguin
11. Capercaillie
12. Golden Pheasant
13. Turkey/ Ocellated Turkey
14. American Flamingo
15. Tinamou
16. Red legged Serinea
17. Any sea bird (Puffin, killdeer, etc.)
18. Any waterfowl (ducks, geese, swans)
19. Quail
20. Pelican

Reptiles
1. Nile Crocodile
2. African spurred tortoise
3. Radiated tortoise
4. Orincoro Crocodile
6. Green Anaconda
7. Gaboon Viper
8. Copperheads, Ratsnake, Cornsnake
9. King Cobra
10. Any Gecko
11. Any Chameleon
12. Basilisk
13. Frilled Lizard
14. Alligator Snapping Turtle

Amphibians
1. Japanese Giant Salamander
2. Cane Toad
3. Hellbender
4. More Tree Frogs
5.Pac-Man Frog
6. Spray Toad
7. Vietnamese Mossy Frog
8. African Clawed Frog

Fish
1. Any will do, just use them as exhibit animals and I’ll be happy. I loved the small fish tanks in zoo tycoon 2.

Invertebrates
1. Any Mantis
2. Honey Bee
3. Leaf Cutter Ant
4. Giant Water Bug
5. Hercules Beetle
6. Stag Beetle
7. Giant Weta
8. Crickets/ Katydid
9. Any land dwelling Crab, like Hermit Crabs
 
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