Animal Families you want to see "Completed"

zom03

zom03
Hey all! With the addition of the Spectacled Bear, and the increased buzz around the American Black Bear now that we know there's at least one more pack coming, the possibility of having all the major bear species in-game got me thinking; what other animal groups would I like to see "filled out" or "completed"?

Now, is it actually likely that we'll see any more families completed within the game's lifespan? Not particularly. I imagine we'll get two more packs next year and that'll be it. This thread is moreso just for some hypothetical fun, without really considering what's realistic for the game.

So, if it were up to you guys, which animal families would want to see "complete"?

My top choice is the penguins! They're probably my second-favorite type of animal (topped only by vultures) and there isn't a single species I wouldn't want included, since they're all fairly visually distinct. Plus, we would be able to make some neat mixed enclosures with multiple Antarctic species. I'm curious to see what you all think!
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
Yeah I don't really have animal families aside from the Bears I'd like to see completely done either. I mean, we're one bear away if you don't count the European Brown Bear...which the Himalayan Brown Bear sort of is and should have been named as such. Putting the American Black Bear in will finish off that group.

Definitely not complete, but I would absolutely love to see a non-tropical otter.
 

Fossa

F
I don't really need any family to be completed, I just want the most stand-out, unique looking and special behavior specimen from the family tree, I do rather have seen the American Black Bear instead of the Asian Black Bear, I mean we already have 2,5 other black bears from Asia, so it is kinda overkill.

I hope PZ2 handles the bears better and gives us: Eurasian Brown Bear / Sun Bear / Sloth Bear / Giant Panda / Spectacled Bear / Polar Bear / Grizzly Bear / American Black Bear. Those are enough for me personally. The only 3 bears I really care for are Spectacled Bear, Sun Bear and Polar Bears though, and I can't imagine a zoo game without Giant Panda's and Grizzlies, so those would be enough, but many people want Eurasian Brown Bear, American Black Bers and probably also Sloth Bears, so add them too.

I think cats and antelopes are my next big thing, but I really don't need 10.000 types of tigers running around over more unique animals, so only the Ocelot, Serval and Fishing Cat remain for me in the cat department, the European Wild Cat is just nah.

How much canines are still missing? Bush Dog, Tanuki Dog, Ethiopian Wolf, Coyote, Jackal and?? I like the Bushdog most, don't really care for the others. EDIT: Oh, I forgot about foxes, there are many of those left as well, Grey Fox is the one I wouldn't mind, as it adds a climbing animation for foxes.
 
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NachoB

NachoB
zom03 said:
Hey all! With the addition of the Spectacled Bear, and the increased buzz around the American Black Bear now that we know there's at least one more pack coming, the possibility of having all the major bear species in-game got me thinking; what other animal groups would I like to see "filled out" or "completed"?

Now, is it actually likely that we'll see any more families completed within the game's lifespan? Not particularly. I imagine we'll get two more packs next year and that'll be it. This thread is moreso just for some hypothetical fun, without really considering what's realistic for the game.

So, if it were up to you guys, which animal families would want to see "complete"?

My top choice is the penguins! They're probably my second-favorite type of animal (topped only by vultures) and there isn't a single species I wouldn't want included, since they're all fairly visually distinct. Plus, we would be able to make some neat mixed enclosures with multiple Antarctic species. I'm curious to see what you all think!
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Ratites.

Please frontier i want my rhea
 

Chuditch

Chuditch
Yeah the two big ones I want completed (that are actually reasonable, there's no purpose in me wishing for stuff like macropods to get anywhere near complete lol) have already been mentioned, ratites and monotremes. By "complete" I don't mean we need to have all four species of echidna, three species of cassowary, five kiwis etc, just one representative of each group - so we're just missing an echidna and a rhea* for both to be complete.

*yes, tinamou are ratites phylogenetically speaking, but the term is still mostly used in its traditional definition of including only the flightless fellas
 
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Spiderhawk

Spiderhawk
I made a similar thread about what we want vs don’t want with animal families. Il join along.
I would consider coyotes to complete the canid family but I also want tanukis for inclusion, golden jackals despite their non popularity.
I would consider the felidae family complete if we got both serval and ocelot as plenty of people champion for one or the other. I feel we have completed big cats, small cats are almost wrapped up.
The ABB, a lot of fans would consider the ursine family complete while some vote for EBB. I will take both.
Monkeys all around are criminally underrepresented, from Africa to India to South America.
ratite would be complete with rheas
Birds are also criminally underrepresented in all categories so I’m not gonna talk about them.
Pinnipeds I am on the fence about. Il take another one, but I feel they would be better left for a planet aquarium. If we get some then let it be walrus and southern fur seal.
I say we are good on penguins, but to complete them would be rockhoppers.
Mustelids I say there are too many reps to be considered complete.
I don’t want anymore African ungulates, elands come to mind in completing.
Blackbucks are the only antelope I still want as they are unique enough.
Elk would help the cervids and I hear people suggesting pudu would wrap things up.
Perenties would be the wrap up needed for monitors.
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zom03

zom03
Mjmannella said:
I think there seems to be a very inconsistent census on what people mean by both "family" and "complete"
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The definition of "complete" I had in mind was having every major species in-game, but naturally, that gets difficult for large families. For those, we might want to just consider the major, not-totally-obscure species (for example, if we were to 'complete' the cats, we'd get, like, the ocelot, serval, and maybe a wildcat).
Fallax said:
Penguins are my favourite animal irl but the only one I still want is a rockhopper.
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The rockhopper is probably the most glaringly missing of the bunch, but I'd also like a penguin that feels like a middle-ground in size between the King and the African. Something like an Adelie, or if they want to make me in particular happy, the Chinstrap.
 

Mjmannella

Mjmannella
zom03 said:
For those, we might want to just consider the major, not-totally-obscure species (for example, if we were to 'complete' the cats, we'd get, like, the ocelot, serval, and maybe a wildcat)
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That quickly becomes quite subjective. For example, I put a lot of value on nilgai but some people would say we don't need anymore of the Bovinae subfamily. How do you draw the line there?
 

zom03

zom03
Mjmannella said:
That quickly becomes quite subjective. For example, I put a lot of value on nilgai but some people would say we don't need anymore of the Bovinae subfamily. How do you draw the line there?
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To be honest, I don't have a great answer to that. I don't think there's anything wrong per se with things being a little subjective and vague, though.
 

Mjmannella

Mjmannella
I think going from that, my interpretation will be simply "species from already-represented families I'd like to see": I'll be excluding families with only one species (ex. Orycteropodidae, Ornithorhynchidae) for simplicity's sake.

  • Canidae - tanukis and maybe bush dogs would be my picks, but they're quite low on the priority list given that frankly too much of this family as-is
  • Felidae - Speaking of over-represented families. But if I had to add more I'd say fishing cats, Andean mountain cats, and jaguarundis. But these are very low priority for me
  • Manidae - I've love to see ground pangolins and Indian pangolins get added one day. Nobody really talks about the other pangolin species as roster candidates and it saddens me somewhat
  • Ursidae - I like American black bears, but they're very low on my priority list. If we didn't have a bunch of necessary bears in the game I'd feel differently but alas
  • Hyaenidae - I would've preferred aardwolves over striped hyenas, but alas
  • Mustelidae - I think this group could stand to have a few more options, but none are high priority. Species like marine otters, Eurasian otters, spotted-necked otters, honey badgers, and American minks would be neat but very unessential IMO
  • Phocidae - I've really love to see crabeater seals and Southern elephant seals be added for representing Antarctica better. Plus Hawaiian monk seals and hooded seals for showcasing the family's presence elsewhere
  • Viverridae - aquatic genets would be really fun additions but otherwise I'll pass on adding more civets
  • Herpestidae - maybe I'd actually use species from this family if they added Indian grey mongooses and banded mongooses
  • Otariidae - I think an Antarctic fur seal would be one good addition to this family before sending them off
  • Procyonidae - I think adding white-nosed coatis and kinkajous would be the best way to finalise this family more-or-less
  • Mephitidae - I don't need any other skunks in PZ, so this family's complete in my eyes
  • Eupleridae - an underrated group, but I only needed fossas
  • Bovidae - so many potential additions like nilgais, muskoxen, blackbucks, red serows, bonteboks, gerenuks, and more
  • Camelidae - nothing else needs to be added, 4 of them is enough for me. I don't need guanacos, vicuñas, or wild Bactrian camels personally
  • Tapiridae - maybe mountain tapirs but nothing more than that
  • Suidae - PZ's swine roster is already excellent, but I think Bornean bearded pigs and giant forest hogs wouldn't hurt by any means
  • Hippopotamidae - this family is objectively completed as both extant species have been in the game since launch
  • Rhinocerotidae - I'd prefer seeing Sumatran rhinos be added over Javan rhinos, but I don't strictly need either of them anyways
  • Giraffidae - I don't need any more giraffes, but it'd be cool to see Southern giraffes be added for variety's sake
  • Equidae - I'll admit that I have quite a soft spot for Shetland ponies. I really wish they were added in the Barnyard pack over alpacas, but alas
  • Cervidae - I think there's still a ton of deer species that could be added like Reeve's muntjacs, Amazonian red brockets, and marsh deer
  • Tayassuidae - I don't personally need the other 2-3 species of peccary, one's enough for me
  • Hominidae - I don't need any more gorillas or orangutans personally, so this family is pretty well complete IMO
  • Cercopithecidae - I'd love to see blue monkeys, crab-eating macaques, sacred langurs, and green monkeys get added to better flesh out the tailed variety of Old World monkeys
  • Lemuridae - aye-ayes and Hawk's sportive lemurs would be the species I'd like to see before sending this family off
  • Cebidae - Humboldt's squirrel monkeys and maybe tufted capuchins would be very nice but otherwise the other families of New World monkey should take priority here
  • Sciuridae - Vancouver Island marmots and alpine marmots would be neat, but I wouldn't need any other squirrels in PZ
  • Castoridae - I don't really need Eurasian beaver, so this family is more-or-less complete for me
  • Caviidae - Patagonian maras would be an excellent send-off for this family, as the other potential additions would really add much IMO
  • Hylobatidae - while there's a shocking number of gibbon species, I think the ones we got in-game do enough to represent this family effectively IMO
  • Hystricidae - I don't need any other Old World porcupines personally, the one species we have represents this family well enough IMO
  • Elephantidae - I do love forest elephants (they're among my favourite animals), but I don't have a huge desire to see them in Planet Zoo
  • Myrmecophagidae - Southern tamanduas are rad and I don't need any of the silky anteater species (but it's cool to see that they were recently found to be several different species)
  • Macropodidae - this family would benefit immensely from Matschie's tree-kangaroos and white-striped dorcopises IMO. Maybe swamp wallabies and agile wallabies for some filler
  • Vombatidae - I don't need either of the hairy-nosed wombat species, so this family is more-or-less complete IMO
  • Dasypodidae - this family of armadillos is essentially complete IMO, as I don't need the other 6 species of naked-tailed armadillo
  • Dasyuridae - after tiger quolls, I think that'd be sufficient representation of this family in PZ
  • Testudinidae - I love tortoises a lot so add in Bolson tortoises and Asian forest tortoises and you're virtually set for their representation. Small species like radiated tortoises and Indian star tortoises are better as Exhibit Animals IMO
  • Struthionidae - Somali ostriches are cool, but I don't really need them in PZ
  • Gavialidae - Malayan gharials are neat, but I don't personally need them in PZ
  • Phoenicopteridae - the next flamingo I want is the Andean flamingos because they represent a new genus in a completely different environment from greater flamingos. I wouldn't be against American flamingos though
  • Phasianidae - tons of options much like Bovids. You have Western capercallies, Congo peafowl, domestic turkeys, Himalayan monals, silver pheasants, Temminck's tragopans, and many other excellent options
  • Varanidae - while there's a great great of fantastic options, I think the two I'd like to see most are lace monitors and crocodile monitors
  • Crocodylidae - I know Nile crocodiles are the hot stuff but there's tons of other species I'd like to see before them. Species like West African crocodiles, Central Slender-Snouted Crocodiles, and Cuban crocodiles would all be more worthwhile additions IMO
  • Casuariidae - given that we already have Southern cassowaries and grassland cassowaries, I don't see the need for having the other 2 species of cassowary
  • Alligatoridae - I think the 3 species we have in-game do a fine job at showcasing the family's variety, so no others are needed personally
  • Spheniscidae - I think after Gentoo penguins were're good for this family. I only use king penguins anyways because I don't like having to manage the smaller species.
  • Gruidae - the only other crane species I want to see added are grey crowned cranes. After them, I don't need other crane species in PZ
  • Apterygidae - I don't need any other kiwis personally, the one species we have represents this family well enough IMO
  • Anatidae - the newest family to be added to PZ, and tons of options for more additions. Species like Muscovy ducks, Hawaiian geese, white-faced whistling ducks, and red-breasted mergansers would be excellent additions to PZ among many other candidates
 
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zom03

zom03
Mjmannella said:
Manidae - I've love to see ground pangolins and Indian pangolins get added one day. Nobody really talks about the other pangolin species as roster candidates and it saddens me somewhat
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This is exactly the kind of take I was hoping to see when I made this thread! I was curious if anyone was passionate enough to say something like “yes, if I were in charge at Frontier I WOULD add every seal species”, for example.

Also, I majorly agree with this take. More pangolins can never be a bad thing.
 

Marvinb

Marvinb
Might be a weird thing to say, but none honestly? Bears, elephants and maybe rhinos are probably the only groups that you could reasonably complete in regards of having every species of them in game, atleast that i can think from the top of my head. And i dont really have any desires for the remaining ones.

And this might just be me but completing a certain group is kind of a silly reason to want a certain animal in my eyes. Because at that point you dont want the animal for its own sake but for a kinda arbitrary reason. If anything, having almost every species of something is a reason to not do another and do a underrepresented group instead, atleast to me.
No offense to anyone, thats just how i feel about it
 
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