Animals which have strong chances to make it to Planet Zoo by your opinion...

NikolaP

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Can we speculate about this? (if not feel free to close thread please)
Ok here is the thing. We all know we will get more DLC's in the future. I am interested to see your opinion which animals you would take as safe bet for making apperance in the game? It doesn't matter if you would guess packs and sort animals through them or just list your animals. There aren't any numbers like "your top 10, top 20 etc. and also not your wishes. Just list all animals for which you have strongest picks that will showed up in the game through future DLC's. I can start xD

1) Puma, 2) Moose, 3) Beaver, 4) Californian Sea Lion, 5) American Alligator, 6) Deer (some specie), 7) Euroasian Lynx, 8) Arctic Fox, 9) Alpine Ibex, 10) Gibbon (some species), 11) Fenec Fox, 12) Meerkat, 13) Ratel, 14) Olive Baboon, 15) Capybara, 16) Black or White Rhinoceros, 17) Masai Giraffe, 18) African Leopard, 19 Tasmanian Devil, 20) Porcupine, 21) King Cobra, 22) Black Mamba, 23) Green Sea Turtle

Note: As for birds as much I would love them in Planet Zoo I am not sure if we will get them. Since thread isn't for wishes but for animals which I have strongest belief we will make the cut I decided to left birds. But if you think otherwise feel free to list them ;)
 

MrHappy

MrHappy
I would say that everything in your list does sound like it really needs to be in the game, very obvious and popular animals. I am sure some of them will be coming at some point :)
 

FoxyDee

FoxyDee
I am somewhat sceptical with the gibbon. If they did not give it to us in the Asia pack, I doubt they ever will. I hope I am wrong though.
 

NikolaP

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Gibbons could go in somewhat what I think it could be very possible like threatened animal pack along with tasmanian devil and green sea turtle. I understaind concern for gibbons but if I have to guess they didn't include them already cause they didn't find the way to carry out swinging animation for monkeys yet. But same as deep diving I have a feeling they will succeed in implementation of brachiating animations also. More then making birds possible though I hope in that too.
 

FoxyDee

FoxyDee
Can they? Sure can.
Would it be viable for Frontier to invest to such nighmarish programming and animating? Well, thats up to the debate.

Not that I dont want the gibbons, I do, very much so! But we should not see them as granted. Its probably one of the most difficult animals to do right. I dont think they would get away with gibbons not accurate enough as easy as with orangutans .
 
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PnGLINNyo

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FoxyDee said:
Can they? Sure can.
Would it be viable for Frontier to invest to such nighmarish programming and animating? Well, thats up to the debate.

Not that I dont want the gibbons, I do, very much so! But should not see them as granted. Its probably one of the most difficult animals to do righ. I dont think they would get aways with gibbons not accurate enough as easy as with orangutans .
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Indeed, the rigging alone would be of immense difficulty. I also understand we should not see them as granted. Still, as a simple fan of Planet Zoo, we can still dream for it even if its unlikely.
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
There's only two that I'm nearly 100% absolutely sure will make it in (can't be exactly 100% cause you never know lol) - that's an African Rhino and the Meerkat. Not only are they important zoo staples I think the community has been fairly adamant enough to warrant the inclusion.

I'd say a very strong chance are : Cougar (aka mountain lion or puma), Moose, and the lone exhibit animal that's practically a must is a species of cobra.

I'd say a strong chance are: Fennec Fox, either an African or Asiatic species of (true) Leopard, Capybara, Emu, American Alligator and a Sea Lion. A little less on that: another otter and another penguin species ( I have a feeling they're going to use those rigs twice), Alpine Ibex

There's others that I think have a greater chance than others, but those 14 I think have a really high probability of making it in. To round it to a full 20 though the ones I think have a best chance out of that are: Arctic Fox, Wolverine, Lynx (hopefully a European species), another swine species - Red River Hog or Collard Peccary sound like'd have the best chance - Ocelot (to get all that use out of the small cat rig!) and some other Australian animal for representation, either a Wombat or Tasmanian Devil seem most likely.
 
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NL_Mutso

NL_Mutso
1. White Rhino: Can't imagine they skip this one

2. Secretary Bird or Grey Crowned Crane: we already have the flamingo in the base game - so these type of birds would work imo.

3. Alligator: One of the big reptiles that feels like it's missing from the game

4. Capybara: One of the animals that's high on most lists. It's very common in zoos and doesn't look like a overly complicated rig.

5. Olive Baboon or Hamadryas Baboon: My guess is that an African pack is very plausible and to have variation in an African Pack. Also the Hamadryas baboon is very common in zoos.

Other than that, don't know. Some highly requested animals require unique behaviours/mechanics that aren't in the game right now. I'm taking that one into account as well.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
PnGLINNyo said:
Indeed, the rigging alone would be of immense difficulty. I also understand we should not see them as granted. Still, as a simple fan of Planet Zoo, we can still dream for it even if its unlikely.
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The rigging wouldn't be any harder than any other animal. It's just manipulating a digital skeleton into the correct shape. It's the animation which causes problems (making the rig move the way they want it to).

At this point I think the only guaranteed animal is an African rhinoceros. As far as Africa is concerned it's the only conspicuously absent common zoo animal (the white rhinoceros is more common in real life, but I would bet that the black rhinoceros makes it into the game). Once upon a time I would have also said the meerkat, but I'm hesitant now because small animals don't seem to be coming in any of the recent DLC (and binturongs don't count - they're bigger than red pandas).

If we get Africa though, then I'd say either the addax or the scimitar-horned oryx are pretty likely, and either a baboon or the gelada.
 

Roxxsmom

Roxxsmom
No one's mentioned wombats yet, but they are so popular that this one feels like a big oversight in the Australia pack they are maybe saving for later (maybe a marsupial pack--though that would essentially be another Australia pack, except for maybe one of the south American possums). I can't believe wombats won't appear at some point.

Maybe CA sea otter? This is another really popular and charismatic animal that appears in many zoos and aquariums. Could be part of a North America or Pacific pack and would be able to exhibit diving behavior and possible enrichment items they pick up from the sea floor and crack open with rocks.

I can't believe they don't have a python species in the exhibit animals either as well as some kind of cobra. I'd bet on the reticulated python showing up in the future, but I suppose a Burmese python, carpet python, or even a green tree python would be strong possibilities too. All of these are striking snakes that are popular in reptile houses.

The African leopard seems to be another animal that is glaring in its absence, though maybe they felt it was going to look superficially too similar to the jaguar.

Prezwalski's horses and Arabian Oryx are two other species seen in many zoos that seem like they should appear eventually. They are charismatic species that have been saved from extinction and re-introduced to the wild via captive breeding programs in zoos.
 

NikolaP

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Thank you for you thoughts. Yes I would love to see wombats in Planet Zoo and Possums would be such a treat. However I'm not too convinced on both of them they will make it, especially Possums. But we can hope :D
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
Roxxsmom said:
The African leopard seems to be another animal that is glaring in its absence, though maybe they felt it was going to look superficially too similar to the jaguar.
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I would just like to point out that the African leopard is not a common zoo animal. Most leopards in zoos are the Asian subspecies - Sri Lankan, Amur, Indochinese, and I believe Persian leopards also appear quite often. I think there's a perception that the African leopard is the common one because it's the one everyone knows about the most, and because it was in Zoo Tycoon back in the day, but being honest if we're talking about actual zoo animals that are glaring in their absence, I wouldn't count the African leopard among them.

That said, for whatever reason the African subspecies is a popularly requested animal. Personally if they do an Africa Pack I hope they skip the lepard and give us a small cat instead (the serval or caracal, ideally) but I wouldn't be surprised if they included the leopard simply because so many people talk about it.
 

Aramar

Aramar
NZFanatic said:
I would just like to point out that the African leopard is not a common zoo animal. Most leopards in zoos are the Asian subspecies - Sri Lankan, Amur, Indochinese, and I believe Persian leopards also appear quite often. I think there's a perception that the African leopard is the common one because it's the one everyone knows about the most, and because it was in Zoo Tycoon back in the day, but being honest if we're talking about actual zoo animals that are glaring in their absence, I wouldn't count the African leopard among them.
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I think the reason is because many people, including myself, usually think about the animals in general, instead of specific subspecies. I mean, if you ask the visitors coming out from a zoo, I'm sure most will say "I've seen a lion, a tiger and a leopard", not "a Sri Lanka leopard, an Asiatic lion and a Sumatran tiger". So, we automatically link the animal to the general knowledge we have about them: African lion, Bengal tiger, African leopard. After all, many people don't bother to read the information panels, or they read but they forget when they get excited by the next animal they find.

I didn't realise before joining this forum that most of the lions and leopards I've seen in my life were Asiatic, not African. We have seen those species in many films, documentaries, cartoons... those subspecies are stuck in our minds.

That's why Frontier has to decide in some specific animals if they go for realism or for the more "known" subspecies of the animal. Can you imagine a zoo game without an African lion? I think the same applies to the leopard.

Of course, this is just my opinion and there might be many other reasons. And I will be happy no matter what subspecies of leopard they choose. I like all of them :)
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
I think it's a good 50/50 chance we'll get either an African or Amur leopard for all the reasons discussed. One is more common in zoos, one is more generally well known and the one that comes to mind when most of the general public thinks of Leopard. Indeed, I started off with an African Leopard near the top of my want list. I since changed my thoughts to Amur Leopard, but really, either one is fine by me. But I do think it's critical we get a true leopard species.
 

biggest_dreamer

biggest_dreamer
As it stands, the only two animals I can say I expect to be added with near-certainty are an African rhino and a leopard. They're both too obvious, too heavily requested, too iconic, too much of a money maker to miss out on. White vs. black and Asian vs. African is up for debate, sure, but I simply can't believe that we'll make it to the end of this game's lifespan without seeing both of them.

Beyond that, everything is slightly more up in the air. But I'd give all of the following at least a super solid 80% chance of showing up:

  • Meerkat - iconic, overwhelming fan demand. The only things keeping them from being another sure bet are their size and burrowing behavior.
  • Sea lion - same as above, with the holdup being that Frontier might consider them to be a diminishing return on top of the gray seal
  • Capybara - a bit less iconic, perhaps, but still relatively highly requested zoo staples. My main worry is that we've already been through South America and they missed at least that first bus.
  • American alligator - relatively highly requested, probably relatively easy to include given how much work has already been put into crocodilians. Hopefully they aren't seen as too redundant.
  • Moose - not actually all that common in zoos, but they're a zoo sim staple and a fan favorite
  • Fox - on second thought, foxes in general are probably only just below the leopard and rhino in how likely I think they are. There's too many popular species for every one of them to be ignored, and Frontier have already shown that they're eager to include more canids in the DLC. Fennec is probably the most likely, followed by red or gray.
  • Deer - okay, I know we've got the reindeer and I just mentioned the moose, but I'm still relatively confident that we'll end up seeing a more "deer-looking" deer, for lack of better descriptor. Red, fallow, white-tailed, Pere David's, axis, take your pick. They're too iconic and too easy to slot into pretty much any DLC theme you could think of.
  • Przewalski's wild horse - another fan favorite zoo sim staple. Huge conservation message. Frankly this one has absolutely nothing going against it aside from being somewhat less iconic than the rhino and leopard.
  • Mountain lion - arguably the biggest candidate for the star of the North American DLC that everyone expects. Probably relatively simple to implement, fairly well requested.
  • Lynx - "the" European animal. There's more than enough requests for more focus on Europe that I'm pretty confident that we'll see this one if nothing else.
  • Baboon - seems like a no brainer inclusion, and we're always in need of more primates imo. I just have a weird gut feeling that they might end up getting snubbed for whatever reason.
Looking at it now, that's a pretty long list of animals, and I honestly don't know how much DLC I expect this game to get in the end. It already pains me slightly to exclude animals like emus and a smaller penguin species, which feel like they should be shoo-ins. But here's hoping all of these get added, as well as many more unexpected choices.
 

Birini

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biggest_dreamer said:
As it stands, the only two animals I can say I expect to be added with near-certainty are an African rhino and a leopard. They're both too obvious, too heavily requested, too iconic, too much of a money maker to miss out on. White vs. black and Asian vs. African is up for debate, sure, but I simply can't believe that we'll make it to the end of this game's lifespan without seeing both of them.

Beyond that, everything is slightly more up in the air. But I'd give all of the following at least a super solid 80% chance of showing up:

  • Meerkat - iconic, overwhelming fan demand. The only things keeping them from being another sure bet are their size and burrowing behavior.
  • Sea lion - same as above, with the holdup being that Frontier might consider them to be a diminishing return on top of the gray seal
  • Capybara - a bit less iconic, perhaps, but still relatively highly requested zoo staples. My main worry is that we've already been through South America and they missed at least that first bus.
  • American alligator - relatively highly requested, probably relatively easy to include given how much work has already been put into crocodilians. Hopefully they aren't seen as too redundant.
  • Moose - not actually all that common in zoos, but they're a zoo sim staple and a fan favorite
  • Fox - on second thought, foxes in general are probably only just below the leopard and rhino in how likely I think they are. There's too many popular species for every one of them to be ignored, and Frontier have already shown that they're eager to include more canids in the DLC. Fennec is probably the most likely, followed by red or gray.
  • Deer - okay, I know we've got the reindeer and I just mentioned the moose, but I'm still relatively confident that we'll end up seeing a more "deer-looking" deer, for lack of better descriptor. Red, fallow, white-tailed, Pere David's, axis, take your pick. They're too iconic and too easy to slot into pretty much any DLC theme you could think of.
  • Przewalski's wild horse - another fan favorite zoo sim staple. Huge conservation message. Frankly this one has absolutely nothing going against it aside from being somewhat less iconic than the rhino and leopard.
  • Mountain lion - arguably the biggest candidate for the star of the North American DLC that everyone expects. Probably relatively simple to implement, fairly well requested.
  • Lynx - "the" European animal. There's more than enough requests for more focus on Europe that I'm pretty confident that we'll see this one if nothing else.
  • Baboon - seems like a no brainer inclusion, and we're always in need of more primates imo. I just have a weird gut feeling that they might end up getting snubbed for whatever reason.
Looking at it now, that's a pretty long list of animals, and I honestly don't know how much DLC I expect this game to get in the end. It already pains me slightly to exclude animals like emus and a smaller penguin species, which feel like they should be shoo-ins. But here's hoping all of these get added, as well as many more unexpected choices.
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I’d add the puma to the rhino and the leopard. Also heavily requested and absolutely ubiquitous in North American zoos.
 

jvandiver91

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FoxyDee said:
I am somewhat sceptical with the gibbon. If they did not give it to us in the Asia pack, I doubt they ever will. I hope I am wrong though.
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That’s fair, but they could surprise us with a Primate Pack to make up for the lack of monkeys in the game, and that could easily include gibbons. Hopeful 🤞
 
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