Antal gets a free expansion for bugs, Archon doesn't?

[Alexander the Grape]

I submitted this bug back on saturday and it's simply been ignored. When a similar thing happened to Antal, the Utopians got given the expansion. Archon's was simply ignored, which is partly why we didn't expand this cycle.

This could potentially lead to the removal of the power, and frontier don't seem to care

 

[paranormal]

I submitted this bug back on saturday and it's simply been ignored. When a similar thing happened to Antal, the Utopians got given the expansion. Archon's was simply ignored, which is partly why we didn't expand this cycle.

This could potentially lead to the removal of the power, and frontier don't seem to care

We had it different - we were allowed only 1 system to expand to, and the bug was preventing it, it was serious PP breaking issue. After an update, we were given this system and FDev posted it here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=120113 , that the bug is being looked into, hold on until it gets fixed.

Next cycle we stepped on that mine again, prepping Minjung, despite warnings. This time though, it was not as crucial and we had successfully lost it. What you could do, is learn from our experience and not expand into single station systems.

 

[GluttonyFang]

I submitted this bug back on saturday and it's simply been ignored. When a similar thing happened to Antal, the Utopians got given the expansion. Archon's was simply ignored, which is partly why we didn't expand this cycle.

This could potentially lead to the removal of the power, and frontier don't seem to care

Definitely supporting this effort.

You are not getting away with this FD.

We tolerated the 20 cargo limit "intended change," endured the Cytoscrambler being utter garbage, dealt with being the punching bag faction with no way to counter with the given number and "solo offensive" of the imperials, I think it's about time that you stop?

What the hell are you doing FD? Favoritism is inevitable, but at least make an effort to conceal it.

 

[paranormal]

Definitely supporting this effort.

You are not getting away with this FD.

We tolerated the 20 cargo limit "intended change," endured the Cytoscrambler being utter garbage, dealt with being the punching bag faction with no way to counter with the given number and "solo offensive" of the imperials, I think it's about time that you stop?

What the hell are you doing FD? Favoritism is inevitable, but at least make an effort to conceal it.

Like I said, this was not similar to your issue. I repeat, Utopia was allowed to expand only to one system, in the beginning. What you have, is repeating our mistake, instead of looking into it and learn why.

 

[GluttonyFang]

Like I said, this was not similar to your issue. I repeat, Utopia was allowed to expand only to one system, in the beginning. What you have, is repeating our mistake, instead of looking into it and learn why.

If this is indeed the case, then what you made was not a mistake, it is an exposure of FD's incompetence in patching crucial/mechanic breaking elements of the game.

We should be bumping this thread to gain FD's attention, otherwise FD considers it a low-priority issue.

As another thread mentioned, the bias in Imperials is heavy in the development of the game.

Also, fighting for this to get fixed as a priority issue benefits every faction.

 

[Asp Explorer]

Also, fighting for this to get fixed as a priority issue benefits every faction.

It also takes away development time from those problems that have not much to do with the side-game, and those that have no interest in factions at all.

Game-breaking bugs still exist. I had to contact support to find an inexplicably lost T6. They supplied me with another T6 - thank-you support, but the ship I was currently flying and all it's cargo utterly vanished upon next logon

 

[Vyvian]

We had it different - we were allowed only 1 system to expand to, and the bug was preventing it, it was serious PP breaking issue. After an update, we were given this system and FDev posted it here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=120113 , that the bug is being looked into, hold on until it gets fixed.

Next cycle we stepped on that mine again, prepping Minjung, despite warnings. This time though, it was not as crucial and we had successfully lost it. What you could do, is learn from our experience and not expand into single station systems.

What does single station systems have to do with it?

If they admit it is a bug then they need to fix it, or make arrangements to compensate the Power that is affected by the bug.

Antal was awarded the system that was bugged. Archon hasn't been. It would at least be fair that FDev comment on why Archon hasn't been treated in the same way.

It is possible that Archon wasn't knocked out of the game this cycle, due to not expanding and being in the bottom 3, as compensation or just because the RNG rolled a 20 and he stayed in the fight (manual just states their is only a chance to be knocked out).

None of us know whether Archon supporters would have taken that system had it not been bugged. They may have suffered opposition there as well.

Should Archon be gifted the system I don't know, but his supporters at least deserve an explaination.


I'm one of the Imperials, who was opposing Archon and his minions last cycle and will continue to do so this cycle. I would love to knock Archon out of Powerplay, but I would also like to do it on a fair playing field. Hate to think that they were knocked out because of a bug in the system rather than due to Imperial might.

By the way GluttonyFang, if you don't want to be the punching bag, then stop expanding towards Imperial space. Why not heading towards the Federation? You might even find some support from the Imperials then.

 

[1mirg]

It is possible that Archon wasn't knocked out of the game this cycle, due to not expanding and being in the bottom 3, as compensation or just because the RNG rolled a 20 and he stayed in the fight (manual just states their is only a chance to be knocked out).

None of us know whether Archon supporters would have taken that system had it not been bugged. They may have suffered opposition there as well.

Let me put that assumption to rest. This is one of archons top preperations atm. Notice anything strange about it?

Spoiler

It's a negative cc system, which if archon loses will result in them losing 5 of their systems. Antal is only preventing them from winning this system because if they win that system then they will overtake their current hq system. Archon is not a fraction of intellectually sound people.

 

[fergal]

There is progress in all expansion systems right now, so look like all of them work this cycle.

 

[paranormal]

If this is indeed the case, then what you made was not a mistake, it is an exposure of FD's incompetence in patching crucial/mechanic breaking elements of the game.

Yeah, but this is not priority bug now, since every Power has options to expand to. It was for us, Utopians, in the beginning, and sadly, no fix was found yet it appears. But if you compare our situation with yours in order to blame of said 'favoritism', please have a look into the issue first. I believe some of you were following on that expansion of ours.

What does single station systems have to do with it?

Due to bug, Power specific zones like Violent Protests (Antal), Resistance Pockets (Archon), combat zones, and, I believe, any other things like checkpoints, are not appearing there. This bug seems to be happening in single station systems.

 

[Vyvian]

Due to bug, Power specific zones like Violent Protests (Antal), Resistance Pockets (Archon), combat zones, and, I believe, any other things like checkpoints, are not appearing there. This bug seems to be happening in single station systems.

Are you refering to systems that only have a station orbitting the star and nothing else, or systems with some planets and a single station?

There is nothing in the Known bug thread that you linked refering to this bug.

 

[paranormal]

Are you refering to systems that only have a station orbitting the star and nothing else, or systems with some planets and a single station?

There is nothing in the Known bug thread that you linked refering to this bug.

Yup, like they say on that bug thread, they refresh it from time to time. The bug is known, believe it or not, you can do your own investigation into the matter if you care.
I am refering to systems with single station in it, other details are irrelevant, be it a single planet, few planets, gas giant, big star etc.

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Archon is not a fraction of intellectually sound people.

Factions of fractured personality disorder?

Sounds like they failed Borg 101.

 

[Bardolin]

There is nothing in the Known bug thread that you linked refering to this bug.

When it comes to the background simulation, the Known Bugs thread is seriously lacking.
Then again, the BGS has never worked entirely right since launch, and quite a few coordinated groups have had to have devs manually intervene to fix the situation, like it happened here.

 

[CMDR Malkov]

So apparently it is our fault because it is a "known bug" (that nobody can seem to find listed) and we should have known better?
There was no reply to the bug report posted saying "Sorry this is a known issue you will have to focus a different system".

If it's a known bug surely that should make our claim to have the matter rectified STRONGER not weaker.
There are known bugs with all sorts of things. If the docking computer bugs out, for example, people report it and get compensated.

Here one power got compensated while another did not, for exactly the same bug.

 

[CMDR Malkov]

Let me put that assumption to rest. This is one of archons top preperations atm. Notice anything strange about it?

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/TA5YBbL.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/SaFT8y2.png

It's a negative cc system, which if archon loses will result in them losing 5 of their systems. Antal is only preventing them from winning this system because if they win that system then they will overtake their current hq system. Archon is not a fraction of intellectually sound people.

AFAIK this is not a system we have chosen to prepare. In fact we don't really prepare any systems intentionally any more - we don't have the time or player numbers. Most of the preparation is done by 5th columns.
This is not some planned hostile move against Antal, just the result of frustrating PP mechanics.

In fact, if you look at our PP thread you will see we have it listed as one of the systems NOT to prepare.

 

[Ralph Vargr]

AFAIK this is not a system we have chosen to prepare. In fact we don't really prepare any systems intentionally any more - we don't have the time or player numbers. Most of the preparation is done by 5th columns.
This is not some planned hostile move against Antal, just the result of frustrating PP mechanics.

In fact, if you look at our PP thread you will see we have it listed as one of the systems NOT to prepare.

Wow. Some of your guys need to retake Borg 101.

 

[Cadoc]

I was one of the people who reported the bug with Sokn a while back. The issue was known, yes, but it was known to a tiny subset of the playerbase. I imagine no more than a fraction of Utopians are aware of it, and we were affected by it twice. To say that Archon's people should have expected it is downright unfair - as is the fact that they weren't given that expansion. It's really just like the situation with ALD - Powers affected by broken mechanics and suffering through no fault of their own. The response should be of the same kind, too.