Any chance of getting some thargoid training scenarios?
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No one for this???
Just to clarify by "training room" i mean the training section on the internal panel. Would be nice to have some more I think. Maybe not all of them, perhaps a cyclops/basilisk or two.
What i really want to practice is FA off and cold orbiting as i cannot seem to do it at all.. In all the vids (by the most Awesome Cmdr Kate etc) they keep FA off but somehow stay right on target.. I have tried this with mouse HOTAS and keyboard but just cannot stay on target and wanna practice it
In human combat i use a mix of FA off and on (mainly off for maneuvers then engage to shoot) but it is a different bag it seems where the goids are concerned.
Just to clarify by "training room" i mean the training section on the internal panel. Would be nice to have some more I think. Maybe not all of them, perhaps a cyclops/basilisk or two.
What i really want to practice is FA off and cold orbiting as i cannot seem to do it at all.. In all the vids (by the most Awesome Cmdr Kate etc) they keep FA off but somehow stay right on target.. I have tried this with mouse HOTAS and keyboard but just cannot stay on target and wanna practice it
In human combat i use a mix of FA off and on (mainly off for maneuvers then engage to shoot) but it is a different bag it seems where the goids are concerned.
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Greetings, Commander. There will be a lot of text now, I apologize, and also excuse me my English, since I use a translator.
On the one hand, it would be useful for many players, but on the other, I understand why, most likely, it should not be introduced. The fact is, probably, that such a tutorial
would contradict the idea of immersion. The current war itself is an exceptional event designed to shock, stun the community, and it has largely succeeded. We should not
perceive the battle with the targoids as standard mechanics. That is, it would be strange to explain such a tutorial from the point of view of lore. Have people caught a targoid
and are training on it? It's kind of weird... In general, it should be difficult for all of us in this war, now it is not clear at all how it will end, things are pretty bad on the fronts,
despite the fact that some systems can be defended, and recently even one controlled by the enemy was released. For example, I myself had never fought with the targoids
before this war, did not have a large range of weapons and Guardians modules (and now there are still far from everything), did not have a specially prepared ship, did not
have the slightest idea about the tactics of fighting with aliens. I had to and still have to master it "on the go", without preparation, as if it were in reality. I don't know how to do much either, sometimes just desperate, I'm trying to look for ways and techniques to fight effectively for myself, I find something, I don't, I feel joy when something comes out
of it, but all this generally corresponds to a certain logic of the situation, and as a result contributes to a colossal degree of immersion. And in the end, that's what we play for - immersion in the world of the Elite.
On the one hand, it would be useful for many players, but on the other, I understand why, most likely, it should not be introduced. The fact is, probably, that such a tutorial
would contradict the idea of immersion. The current war itself is an exceptional event designed to shock, stun the community, and it has largely succeeded. We should not
perceive the battle with the targoids as standard mechanics. That is, it would be strange to explain such a tutorial from the point of view of lore. Have people caught a targoid
and are training on it? It's kind of weird... In general, it should be difficult for all of us in this war, now it is not clear at all how it will end, things are pretty bad on the fronts,
despite the fact that some systems can be defended, and recently even one controlled by the enemy was released. For example, I myself had never fought with the targoids
before this war, did not have a large range of weapons and Guardians modules (and now there are still far from everything), did not have a specially prepared ship, did not
have the slightest idea about the tactics of fighting with aliens. I had to and still have to master it "on the go", without preparation, as if it were in reality. I don't know how to do much either, sometimes just desperate, I'm trying to look for ways and techniques to fight effectively for myself, I find something, I don't, I feel joy when something comes out
of it, but all this generally corresponds to a certain logic of the situation, and as a result contributes to a colossal degree of immersion. And in the end, that's what we play for - immersion in the world of the Elite.
I would recommend that you do not stop and continue training in combat conditions, but simultaneously training the orbit in a calm environment, for example, any ship of the
system authorities without attacking it, near the navigation beacon.. It's better on some Anaconda, it's big, like the targoids, it will roughly meet the conditions. Such a ship will not attack you, being a moving target at the same time, and you will be able to turn the orbit around it, trying to keep it in target, or at least in the line of sight from the cockpit. Often
such NPC pilots also start to revolve around you, it turns out a good workout.
Another good technique is to train on scouts. Install the new AX multi-cannon gimbals, exactly the gimbals, and enter the hotspot at the outset of the instance, when only the first wave of scouts is coming. Next, attack any scout only in FA-off mode. The point is that since the gimbal guns have a limited range of rotation, they only partially aim at the target themselves and you need to maintain a fairly accurate trajectory, but not radically accurate, so you will have the right to make a mistake and a good field for training. It is better to do this at an orbital outpost, where you can dock, or, at least, in a conflict zone of medium and low tension in a high orbit of the planet, but not at a planetary port, because, despite the absence of a swarm of interceptors, you will be distracted by the proximity of the planet's surface and gravity. Then you can reset the instance by going to the menu and then re-enter the wave of scouts only. At first it will be difficult, nothing will work out, but over time you will fully master it.
When you feel confident, change two of the four multi-cannon to Modified Guardian Shard Cannon (namely shards, not Gauss and not plasma) and try to hit the scout periodically, firing only by them. In parallel, it is already possible to go to the Cyclops with four modified shards cannon. Changing the modes from FA-on to FA-off and back, gradually switch to the complete shutdown of the assistant. Of course, a lot depends on other factors - control devices and control settings, the ship and its equipment, piloting style, etc. (For example, I flying by hotas using small sticks on FA-off, which is very difficult and turns out badly, but for me it's better in terms of immersion than a keyboard and mouse, although FA-off is easier to master on the k/m.). The main thing is not to give up and you will succeed.
system authorities without attacking it, near the navigation beacon.. It's better on some Anaconda, it's big, like the targoids, it will roughly meet the conditions. Such a ship will not attack you, being a moving target at the same time, and you will be able to turn the orbit around it, trying to keep it in target, or at least in the line of sight from the cockpit. Often
such NPC pilots also start to revolve around you, it turns out a good workout.
Another good technique is to train on scouts. Install the new AX multi-cannon gimbals, exactly the gimbals, and enter the hotspot at the outset of the instance, when only the first wave of scouts is coming. Next, attack any scout only in FA-off mode. The point is that since the gimbal guns have a limited range of rotation, they only partially aim at the target themselves and you need to maintain a fairly accurate trajectory, but not radically accurate, so you will have the right to make a mistake and a good field for training. It is better to do this at an orbital outpost, where you can dock, or, at least, in a conflict zone of medium and low tension in a high orbit of the planet, but not at a planetary port, because, despite the absence of a swarm of interceptors, you will be distracted by the proximity of the planet's surface and gravity. Then you can reset the instance by going to the menu and then re-enter the wave of scouts only. At first it will be difficult, nothing will work out, but over time you will fully master it.
When you feel confident, change two of the four multi-cannon to Modified Guardian Shard Cannon (namely shards, not Gauss and not plasma) and try to hit the scout periodically, firing only by them. In parallel, it is already possible to go to the Cyclops with four modified shards cannon. Changing the modes from FA-on to FA-off and back, gradually switch to the complete shutdown of the assistant. Of course, a lot depends on other factors - control devices and control settings, the ship and its equipment, piloting style, etc. (For example, I flying by hotas using small sticks on FA-off, which is very difficult and turns out badly, but for me it's better in terms of immersion than a keyboard and mouse, although FA-off is easier to master on the k/m.). The main thing is not to give up and you will succeed.
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Build an AX Viper IV? The rebuy on that is tiny.Would be nice to practice against some different goid situations in the training room.
It's getting expensive learning the hard way
Well, if FA/off is a problem, then practice it for a while, exclusively. It’s not about your controls, mate. People with either mice and joy’s can stay right on target, but it needs extensive practice. It really is impossible at first, until it becomes easy. Go out, find a carrier, and boost-spin around it, while facing it. No flight assist. Keep carrier vertical in front of yourself. Eventually, you’ll make near perfect circles, while aiming straight into the carrier. You’ll also learn to control distance. Then go out and kill some baddies in hazardous asteroid ring with rails, full fa/off, until aim is comfortable. Then take your skills to cold orbit the thargoid, which means orbiting at 3-5km constantly, while beaming and making occasional raids into 1.5km zone to exert the heart and break it.
Aiming for mount Everest is good, but it also helps to break it down into sub routines to master separate disciplines more efficiently.
(PS, I agree, AX training scenarios would go a long way. Until they arrive, we must do with what we have. Humanity is in danger!)
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