Any Joystick Gremlin Wizards Out There?

[Faded Glory]

TL : DR - I probably don't need to change response curves, but I'd like to be able to, just in case...

I just bought a new joystick, the VKB Gunfighter Mk III. Very nice it is too. I am coming from a T16000M Thrustmaster, which was also very nice, and over the last couple of years I have become pretty proficient with fixed weapons using this stick, and had no need to modify any axes in order to aim. The new stick is probably quite a bit more accurate, and as such I find I am probably over correcting a bit. The few times I have played with the new stick I think I am still doing Ok with the fixed weapons, but wonder whether I might be better off 'softening' it a bit using some kind of curves software.

The stick comes with software (VKBConfig) that apparently enables you to modify axes responses. Unfortunately I can't even find the right place / tab to start trying this out. So joystick curves or perhaps joystick gremlin would be better. I have used joystick curves many years ago, but I think joystick gremlin might be better, and since my experience with curves was a long time ago I might just as well treat either of them as starting again from scratch. (And to be honest, I'd prefer not to have a virtual middle man involved, but both require that in the form of vJoy software. So if anybody is familiar with the VKBconfig software enough to help me feel free to chip in. )

I have downloaded vJoy software, and also gremlin. I ran vJoy, and from what I can tell, I have created a virtual joystick, certainly joystick gremlin lists one. Bear in mind if I do anything I only want to soften the X and Y (pitch and roll) axes and the RZ (yaw) axis. In the gremlin software I have mapped the three physical axes to the three corresponding virtual axes, and in the virtual axes set up a response curve. However, I'm not sure anything is happening...

I keep both vJoy and gremlin running, but as far as I'm aware, my control mapping is still the same as it was when I set things up originally, and if I try to re-map pitch, roll or yaw it just shows the same (physical) device listed with no indication it's using the virtual device and thus the custom curve.

Actually flying, it's difficult to tell the difference (if there is any). Thus why I suggest that I might not really need to modify the response curves and may just need to spend some time getting used to the new stick. Still, I'd like to be able to, just in case.

So, if there are any Joystick Gremlin wizards out there who'd be willing to give some help and advice, it would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Marbat]

Have you tried using WIZZO? https://vkbcontrollers.com/?page_id=4609

 

[Faded Glory]

Have you tried using WIZZO? https://vkbcontrollers.com/?page_id=4609

Thanks for the reply.

I did actually download the Wizzo software (which is definitely more straight forward that the VKBConfig utility), but from what I can tell it is for use with a different family of sticks (the Gladiator), and certainly all the stuff that came with my stick, and what is written on the VKB site and forums says that for the Gunfighter you need to use VKBConfig.

To be fair, calibration is pretty straight forward, it's just creating customized response curves that seems a bit opaque.

 

[CMDR Harada]

I found the standard settings worked for mine ( Gladiator II / SCG handle ). I adjusted my play style to account for the extra accuracy.

You can adjust the curves in the VKB config program ( VKBDevCfg ) under the Tools tab ( at the top ), profiles tab ( at the bottom ), and then Axes tab ( Middle ). The tabs and options change depending on what tabs you hit first, so do them in that order... It's kind of a confusing to find what you want. There are few others on here that have your joystick..

I'd also add that while you have a great joystick, you also have a non-standard joystick. What I mean is that you're going to have to learn the controller programs, such as VKBDevCfg and ZBootloader, to take full advantage of it. Once you do that you won't believe how the common people play with standard 'consumer grade' trash controllers.

 

[Faded Glory]

I found the standard settings worked for mine ( Gladiator II / SCG handle ). I adjusted my play style to account for the extra accuracy.

You can adjust the curves in the VKB config program ( VKBDevCfg ) under the Tools tab ( at the top ), profiles tab ( at the bottom ), and then Axes tab ( Middle ). The tabs and options change depending on what tabs you hit first, so do them in that order... It's kind of a confusing to find what you want. There are few others on here that have your joystick..

I'd also add that while you have a great joystick, you also have a non-standard joystick. What I mean is that you're going to have to learn the controller programs, such as VKBDevCfg and ZBootloader, to take full advantage of it. Once you do that you won't believe how the common people play with standard 'consumer grade' trash controllers.

Thanks, I'll try the VKB software in the order you suggested.

And actually, you are right that it's quite possible I won't need it ultimately. I had a play last night with a Krait MkII, a pair of gimballed lasers (obviously no problem), a large PA and two large fixed multi canon, and had no real problems hitting things with the fixed weapons, so it's possible that I'll get used to the added accuracy with time.