Anybody else not worried?

I'm not being sarcastic nor "ironic" when I say that's a very good lesson that we all should learn. The same goes about never buy pre-order games, it's a waste of money. When we buy those pre-order games and we are the first ones to play it, it's we, the chumps who overpaid for a game, the ones that are paying the publisher and developers to work as beta testers because new released games are bugged, incomplete, crashing, not adapted for "x" and so on. Not to mention that then we have to pay for the future and innevitable (if the game is succesful) DLCs that add more to the bill.

Since making the terrible decision of pre-ordering Fallout 4, I've adopted the strategy of only buying games 3 or 4 years old once the "Complete", "GOTY" or "Legendary" editions are out that include the fixed base game, all the DLC, the experience and opinion of other players and all that for half the money we would have spended if we had pre-ordered and bought the DLC one by one, even more if we catch a sale.

Man, ESPECIALLY with Bethesda games.
 
Worried? No, this isn't real life.

Seeing previous patterns from other games? Yes. Maintenance mode has a habit of becoming permanent. Now they are promising "stuff" in 2020 and it will probably happen. However what will the playerbase have been reduced too and....you think the current purchasing method will remain "as is"? Not a hope. Be prepared to open your wallet for each and every upgrade / season / new era. Trust me, seen it before and no doubt, I'll see it again.

The shame is that it is the best space game out there. X4 will be brill by update 6 or 7 but that's a long wait, much as I enjoy it now. I just want a pvp open only type shoot em up, fleet confrontation type grindfest. Not much to ask for......
 
“This might be in the update. Might not. Who can say?”

Yeah, I’m sure that would be utterly fine with the community. Not.

Did you miss the part where they said fleet carriers and revamped ice worlds were coming and tthen said it was delayed? barely a wimper from the community when they announced the delay.

There is absolutely no reason not to announce what is in the 2020 update and show some artwork or screen shots.

I can't get my head round why you would not want to know what they are doing....

Anyhoo a pointless discussion, they will probably drop some info in april.
 
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"IF"

If I had said "Mr Braben is a liar, He said this and this and then done this" that would be an accusation.

See the difference?

No, not really. If it's not what you want to imply you should think about wording it differently.


If I would make such a post, I believe you and the mods would agree that it's an insult. Also try to say it to a cop and see how it goes.
'What if you are an idiot? Wouldn't that make all your posts meaningless?'
 
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Indeed. Let's say, JUST FOR EXAMPLE (don't anyone shout at me), that they announced space legs would be there in April 2020. And then some unforeseen problems crop up, as they always do in a project of that kind of scale, and space legs doesn't happen in April 2020. It would annoy the community, it would harm the company, it would make it less likely that they'd get new players on board in future. It would be a right mess, and for what? Just so some people on the forum don't complain about the vagueness of 'greater things to come'? There's just no good reason for FD to offer a precise timeline, and the odd complaint about that here is a very tiny drop of water off the back of a rather large and particularly smooth duck.

And besides, in terms of getting new players on board, announcing it spectacularly once it's ready to go is far more effective. Get some hype going about a thing that will definitely happen, immediately before it happens.

They announced space legs over 4 years ago...
 
I don't get where this speculation on next gen consoles is coming from at all. It's almost like people default to the worst case scenario.

I think that if it is what they claim, the biggest release they've ever put out, it should be pretty apparent why it would take so long. If it will completely change the game, as they imply it will, then there's gotta be a lot of work to be done. So I think more than anything, the delay illustrates just how major the update will be.

Speculation comes from inaction, we have had loads of things in the past which we've waited for to come across as a bit lacking and those delays were six months. Iirc the powerplay one was pushed as a big deal but didn't catch on to name one.

What I am stating is I hope this is going to be the next BIG thing and that Fdev are not simply waiting for the next gen consoles to arrive and are working on getting ED on those whilst sacrificing time which could be spent better with the current generation of systems.

Sony and Microsoft have penciled in 2020 for a possible release time for the next generation of PlayStation and Xbox so yes I am speculating on a possible situation.

I'm just hoping it's going to be the next biggest update since the release of the game as some of the big updates do seem lacking until the end of the whole season. Horizons originally added airless planets with just a scattering of rocks, beyond added a few extra bits on launch. Once again it's only the end of the seasons which has seen the envisaged idea for the whole season.
 
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Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
I'd have liked FDev to have moved faster on the big updates, honestly. I know they're doing their best, but this isn't the time frame I had in mind when I bought into the Alpha level of the Kickstarter. Really thought we'd have legs and atmo landings by now.

Ah well. It is what it is. I'm still very happy with all the enjoyment I've received from playing game and being a part of this community. Just because it didn't turn out like I expected doesn't mean I wouldn't do it over again.
 
They announced space legs over 4 years ago...

"it would be cool if" isn't really an announcement.

And here we are at the core why FD doesn't want to tell us anything any more. A prime example where some people take some vague speculation that some feature would be nice to have as solid promise that this will be implemented. And unlike Eymerich, some people even then get angry and riled up about those "promised" features not being implemented right away.
 
The previous Elite game: 1995
The current Elite game: 2014

And you're all losing your minds because you have to wait for a big update. Did any of you play any previous space sim series where what you bought was what you got? How did you all survive waiting through the era of sequels rather than patches?

The reactions on this forum about the 2020 update are frankly childlike. Come now.
I'm not worried... I look at what was produced over the past two years, indeed the last three, and have set my expectations accordingly for they can produce over another two years.

Since release the only updates that I feel actually wowed me were Wings and Surface landings. And while I can certainly hope ethos and abilities have changed so come end of 2020 there is finally another "wow" in store for me, there's just been so many odd design choices along with a 2-3yrs history of missed opportunities, that I have low expectations in truth.
 
The previous Elite game: 1995
The current Elite game: 2014

And you're all losing your minds because you have to wait for a big update. Did any of you play any previous space sim series where what you bought was what you got? How did you all survive waiting through the era of sequels rather than patches?

The reactions on this forum about the 2020 update are frankly childlike. Come now.

Worried? No not in the slightest , i learned a long time ago not to worry about the things i cant change. Instead i worry about the things i can change. #lifelessons.
 
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