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Newcomer / Intro Anybody gone from Viper to Vulture....?
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Its a great ship for combat, need to mix and match power to modules easy to go over the limit. Fantastic agility. As Ophion says it needs the upgrades to be good.
thanks .... nearly bought one ......but havent the funds to upgrade it...... so will stick to Viping for now..
The Vulture is a very agile ship. I sold my Asp and got the Vulture and glad I did.
There is no comparison between the Vulture and Viper.
Vulture is hands down the logical choice...so get it, you won't be disappointed.
And.... you can outfit a Vulture for much less than 20-30 million CR's... so don't listen to that drivel.
There is no comparison between the Vulture and Viper.
Vulture is hands down the logical choice...so get it, you won't be disappointed.
And.... you can outfit a Vulture for much less than 20-30 million CR's... so don't listen to that drivel.
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I just got a Vulture, had a viper, went into the rare commodities trade with a T6, made 27 million with that and then traded up to a Vulture, this baby is fully equipped for all A rated components. I have been at a RES site knocking off pythons, anaconda, clippers and such. had a guy in a sidewinder interdict me, bad mistake on his part. finished him in 10 secs. Great ship. I thought about the FDL but for 65 mil, its a little much
Bought a Vulture?
Welcome to easy mode!
Welcome to easy mode!
Yes, you can. You can leave it stock also. I'm just saying if you want to fully upgrade it, you will need a lot of money. My current setup is worth over 29 millions.
The Viper is faster and has more powerful vertical and lateral thrusters.
The Vulture turns much more quickly, has incredibly strong shields, and can mount class 3 weapons which are much more effective against large ships like Anacondas and Pythons.
The Vulture is also very tight for power (even more than the Viper), even with just basic class 3 pulse lasers you will struggle to fit a full set of A-grade internals without compromising something.
That said, the difference between the Vulture and the Viper is night-and-day when it comes to killing large high-value NPCs. The Vulture has the shields to go toe to toe with them safely for long enough to smash down their shields and kill their power plants, resulting in safe, efficient earnings in Extraction Sites and Combat Zones. Also, because it can get enough armour penetration to kill large NPCs without having to use kinetic weapons, you can just stay in a RES or combat zone and blast away until you've had enough, without needing to re-arm.
Think I spent about 16 million all-in on mine, and I don't feel like there's any NPC encounter that can threaten it. Won against three Master+ Anacondas at once in an SSS yesterday after my wingmate in his Cobra got chased off almost immediately. Came out of it with no shield cells left, but not a scratch on the hull.
Can't say much as to PvP as I haven't fought another commander in it yet.
Try playing around with shield boosters in EdShipyard. You may find it is just as tough and quite a bit cheaper if you downgrade the shield generator and put a couple of boosters on.
Edit: also, the cockpit view in the Vulture is a little restrictive compared to the Viper, there are these two whacking great armour plates that block your view out of the bottom right and left of the canopy. It's not that big of a deal as the hardpoints are on its "shoulders", so your target should be slightly above you anyway if you're using gimballed weapons.
The Vulture turns much more quickly, has incredibly strong shields, and can mount class 3 weapons which are much more effective against large ships like Anacondas and Pythons.
The Vulture is also very tight for power (even more than the Viper), even with just basic class 3 pulse lasers you will struggle to fit a full set of A-grade internals without compromising something.
That said, the difference between the Vulture and the Viper is night-and-day when it comes to killing large high-value NPCs. The Vulture has the shields to go toe to toe with them safely for long enough to smash down their shields and kill their power plants, resulting in safe, efficient earnings in Extraction Sites and Combat Zones. Also, because it can get enough armour penetration to kill large NPCs without having to use kinetic weapons, you can just stay in a RES or combat zone and blast away until you've had enough, without needing to re-arm.
Think I spent about 16 million all-in on mine, and I don't feel like there's any NPC encounter that can threaten it. Won against three Master+ Anacondas at once in an SSS yesterday after my wingmate in his Cobra got chased off almost immediately. Came out of it with no shield cells left, but not a scratch on the hull.
Can't say much as to PvP as I haven't fought another commander in it yet.
Try playing around with shield boosters in EdShipyard. You may find it is just as tough and quite a bit cheaper if you downgrade the shield generator and put a couple of boosters on.
Edit: also, the cockpit view in the Vulture is a little restrictive compared to the Viper, there are these two whacking great armour plates that block your view out of the bottom right and left of the canopy. It's not that big of a deal as the hardpoints are on its "shoulders", so your target should be slightly above you anyway if you're using gimballed weapons.
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You can drop to A4 shields and make up the difference with shield boosters, which take it back up to A5 equivalence. If your shields go down, though, they take longer to come back up, and the A5 takes an eternity.
However, if your shields go down in a fighter, you've lost and should make like a banana as soon as you can.
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And the Viper is awesome personified. The Vulture is easy mode.
I know; I have both.
However, if your shields go down in a fighter, you've lost and should make like a banana as soon as you can.
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And the Viper is awesome personified. The Vulture is easy mode.
I know; I have both.
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I'm not sure but to me it feels like my shields recharge faster if I temperary shut off my shieldboosters and then back on after the shields have come back online...
I agree. Even a stock Vulture is very powerful. I went from a class A Cobra to a Vulture. All I upgraded were the lasers, which I bought a pair of size 3 burst lasers, and a class B shield. This basic vulture would easily blow my class A Cobra away. It's very manuverable but a little slow. The turbo boost is fine though so the speed isn't an issue for me (I haven't upgraded the thrusters at all). The total amount of cash I had available after selling my cobra was 6.5 million, so that's all you need. That vulture can blast an average Adder in 10 shots no problem and I am no longer scared of attacking anacondas
..however, it won't be nearly as much fun as properly A-fitted
You're oversimplifying, you can buy a Vulture for less, but it's better to upgrade it. Shades of grey. Personally, I bought it after the price drop and bought everything right away. I did the same with my Viper. That's probably because I traded from my starter ships to a T6 and then T7, and earned enough to buy fighters as well as my trading ships.
OP:
I went from an A-fit Viper to A-fit Vulture. I missed the crackly roar of the engine note, but that's about it. I stuck a couple of large gimballed burst lasers on the Vulture, and it's a lot easier to kill big ships with it than it was with the Viper (where I was using gimballed pulses on the small hardpoints for shield stripping, and gimballed MCs on the mediums for killing the power plant/hull). Not having to go home to reload ammo is nice, too, as is the increase in shield beefiness.
That said, I have kept the Viper- partly because it makes such a nice noise, but partly because it costs so little to replace when destroyed.. It's nice to have around when I want to do anything unusually stupid/suicidal. Running your fighters in parallel with your trade ships makes this sort of thing a sane tactic.
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