Astronomy / Space Anyone notice this? (the very beginning of the universe)

[Deleted member 110222]

I find it fascinating how a state before the universe's existence is quite literally beyond our comprehension.

It is impossible for a human or any other being to imagine anything outside our universe... In particular, the empty space outside. No dark, no light. No idea what it looks like, no way to possibly know.

 

[Bartizan]

 

[Shinji Ikari]

I find it fascinating how a state before the universe's existence is quite literally beyond our comprehension.

It is impossible for a human or any other being to imagine anything outside our universe... In particular, the empty space outside. No dark, no light. No idea what it looks like, no way to possibly know.

We can certainly imagine things that don't exist and thus, that aren't within our universe, about the last 5 words, we probably will crack down the details once we get a proper theory of everything though it'll be a while until that happens.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

We can certainly imagine things that don't exist and thus, that aren't within our universe, about the last 5 words, we probably will crack down the details once we get a proper theory of everything though it'll be a while until that happens.

But as far as I, and any of my friends can imagine, even our imagination is bound by the laws of physics.

I'm pretty sure that there is theory that other universes could have different laws. But all I get trying to imagine that is a headache.

 

[ethelred]

Read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland

It'll probably help.

Probably.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

But as far as I, and any of my friends can imagine, even our imagination is bound by the laws of physics.

Every thought is indeed bound to the laws of physics but that doesn't stop us from creating and using concepts that don't exist, for example, do tesseracts exits? What about a true Klein Bottle? Grahm's Number?

I'm pretty sure that there is theory that other universes could have different laws. But all I get trying to imagine that is a headache.

Some variations of the multiverse theory speculate just that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse#Max_Tegmark's_four_levels

 

[Deleted member 110222]

Read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland

It'll probably help.

Probably.

Dude, I can smell colours now.

No seriously, very interesting. Gives me a headache but interesting.

 

[The Lawful]

The answer is found in Genesis 1, verse 1. And John 1 verses 1-5. Nothing comes from nothing.

O7,
[noob]

 

[Patrick_68000]

Outside of our universe, there is the Paradise (for some only) and the Hell (for the majority ).

They are difficult to understand until we go there

 

[Shadowdancer]

the empty space outside

There is no space outside, "space" is a property of the universe

 

[Deleted member 110222]

There is no space outside, "space" is a property of the universe

This is exactly why the topic gives me a headache. RIP

 

[Patrick_68000]

This is exactly why the topic gives me a headache. RIP

The Eternity also gives me a headach

 

[dayrth]

There is no space outside, "space" is a property of the universe

It is also probable that there was not a 'before the universe' because time did not exist so there was no time for the 'before' to exist in. Though this can not be proven.

 

[Shadowdancer]

Another little thing: when you look out into space, past all the distant galaxies and back through all those billions of years, you see a tiny bit of an opaque cloud from which all of that condensed all around you. If you could look beyond that, you would see the inside of an infinitely small singularity (redundancy for effect) literally containing everything.

And the box itself is probably worth something too.

 

[Manticore]

Multiverse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Outside of our universe, there is the Paradise (for some only) and the Hell (for the majority ).

They are difficult to understand until we go there

Yes, I am looking forward to hell. It's where all my heros should be.

It is also probable that there was not a 'before the universe' because time did not exist so there was no time for the 'before' to exist in. Though this can not be proven.

Time is just a measurement of change. If there was change before the beginning of our universe, that may well be able to be measured too.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Yes, I am looking forward to hell.

Do not be worried, he heard you, now

https://imgur.com/a/LENpdRs

 

[We Are Groot]

I find it fascinating how a state before the universe's existence is quite literally beyond our comprehension.

It is impossible for a human or any other being to imagine anything outside our universe... In particular, the empty space outside. No dark, no light. No idea what it looks like, no way to possibly know.

Choice A) The universe has always existed. Choice B) There was a time of absolute nothingness and even though there was no point A or B where something could pop into existence something managed to pop into existence anyways.

My money is on Choice A as I suspect that the universe is infinite and our visible universe is part of a much larger universe that is only one of an infinite number of universes. Since there is a finite number of ways for matter to arrange itself and if the universe is indeed infinite then this is not the first time we have had this discussion nor will it be the last.

I also don't think it is impossible to imagine things existing outside our universe (depending on the type of universe) as I imagine a great many things existing beyond what we can see. If there were multiple universes and the laws of physics varied within them then things could be quite strange.

 

[Hell Razor5543]

If you can find the thread "Chain Story" you will find out that the Big Bang came about because of a fake T.j!