Anyone see a trade route under 20 LY that pays more than 1200/ton round-trip?
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The best I've found is Oleleuts to Meskhenga, 1000/ton for gold one way, 300/ton for coltan the other way. I'm in a type 9, so I'm limited to the big stations. I wish it had a better return route, but hell, this can make me 2 million an hour, so it's a pretty damn good route.
Yeah. You'd think a type 9 would make notably more than an Asp, but being limited to big stations is a big handicap.
I haven't found anything. I've tried to get into trading (from bounty hunting) twice now, and each time I quit and go back to hunting because I'm making maybe 22k a trip in an Adder, when I can make that in a few (much more fun) minutes of finding decent targets at a nav beacon.
I really hope profits pick back up, because right now trading isn't profitable enough to be fun in and of itself.
I really hope profits pick back up, because right now trading isn't profitable enough to be fun in and of itself.
I mean I'm making about the same per ton
If I had that kind of coin coming in flying an Asp I'd have had that Python I want last week!Oh! That makes a lot more sense. I thought I was just a mediocre trader.
There aren't any "old days". The game wasn't released, so any figures the economy had before release mean nothing. Frontier was using all of that time to tweak the economy to the way they want it to be. The way it is right now is the way they want it. Michael Brookes even said today in response to a question of if we would see profit margins return to the way they were through beta and gamma:
"Unlikely as it shouldn't be that high anyway, but there should be some improvement. "
It wasn't supposed to be that high. Don't expect it anymore.
I don't expect to see margins like that but the current state of affairs makes for a lot of tedious back and forth if you want anything better than what you've got; I'd appreciate seeing some improvement to make the risk inherent in moving millions in inventory at a time more palatable.
I can't even find anything being sold for less than 200 of the galactic average or 200 above for buying. I'm gunna be stuck in a cobra for a while until they mess with this
I'd suggest putting together a rare commodity route. Chain together a dozen sources or so, and with a cargo space of just 50 you can make 500k an hour. And that's a conservative estimate.
I spent a few hours yesterday scouting a new area of space to trade in. Best I found was gold one way at 450/T and resonators the other way at ~650/T for a 10 min round trip. I still think I am able to include a 3rd stop for added profits, but it'll take more research.
Now, they fiddled with the NPC trading yesterday, so it'll be interesting to see the impact on demand the next couple of days. It should get slightly better.
Now, they fiddled with the NPC trading yesterday, so it'll be interesting to see the impact on demand the next couple of days. It should get slightly better.
I'm routinely making right around 1k per ton one way between one-jump stations in and near Sol (hauling silver mostly)... but not round trip. Pretty good grind once you're in an Adder or Cobra with some cargo space upgrades. Moon base Galileo to Earth base Gorbachev for the score!
I usually make more money on the "We need this here" missions though, now that I am faction friendly. Getting 25-45k a shot for these fetch missions, most of which is usually profit.
This is in solo mode though... not sure (but hope) the economy is the same regardless of the mode. I don't see profitable "there and back" routes very often (certainly not of the 1K p/t variety). Those usually involve a chain of 3 or 4 systems.
And the Cobra sure guzzles fuel compared to the Adder.
I usually make more money on the "We need this here" missions though, now that I am faction friendly. Getting 25-45k a shot for these fetch missions, most of which is usually profit.
This is in solo mode though... not sure (but hope) the economy is the same regardless of the mode. I don't see profitable "there and back" routes very often (certainly not of the 1K p/t variety). Those usually involve a chain of 3 or 4 systems.
And the Cobra sure guzzles fuel compared to the Adder.
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This is accurate. Given Frontiers eagerness to nerf highly profitable ventures Im not going to go into specifics about my particular gravy train, but suffice it to say that I have discovered a rare commodity milk run that I was able to profit roughly a million credits an hour in my 36T Cobra. Ive just upgraded to an ASP and am expecting to see that number change to between 1.75 and 2m per hour with some tweaks to capitalize on my additional cargo space.
Profits are out there, you just need to get creative!
Just stumbled on a 1100cr/t round trip with 2 stations a very small hyperspace apart with a tiny super cruise distance each so may be a good grind for a decent profit/hr. In an upgraded combat cobra, tempting to take the shields off and run 60t each way. Not far off a lacon type 6 though as a separate purchase so might down that route instead... Or even buy a (second) stripped out cobra for trade to be upgraded with some more trade run cash.
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Short after release I have found bi-directional route of 2500/t within one system 20Ly away from my startimg location. Until I managed to get a full cargo for my T6 the margin slipped to 1800/t. Still good though. Then after patch (I think) 1.03 the route dissapeared as one of the outpost on the route started to sell beryllium instead of buying it. I didnt understand the change but managed to find three-outpost round trip within the same system of 1600/t (400/t per one trip). It was a bit low but fast... no stations, only outposts, short distances. So I sticked with it until yesterday... Two of the outposts stoped selling beryllium and gold. Why is that? Other players bought it out? Dont understand again. Then I tried to use the online tool http://www.elitetradingtool.co.uk (yesterday) but every route I checked (I think three or four) was not existant. Ie. the tool said, by beryllium there or buy indium there, but there was no beryllium or indium on those stations. Were there some changes yesterday or is the tool poorly updated?... I dont get it.... So I went back to the forum looking for clues and found this thread...
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That's pretty ambitious. Back in my type 7, the best rare commodity milk run I had netted me about 1.2 mil/hour, and that was with using the 150 plus extra cargo space for additional trade goods. The Asp might be able to make more, with its longer jump range and quicker dock speed, but there are heavy diminishing returns on extra cargo space in regards to rare trading.
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