Apparently I suck at dogfights - advice needed

Maybe it won't help too much with your maneuvering woes, but something I just discovered today that some of you may find interesting and useful. Gambled weapons, you know them, you love them, they make keeping your enemy in your sites so much easier, keep that fire on them as long as possible. But wait! Disaster! Calamity! that eagle has just launched chaff! What can you do?

Fear not! Simply unlock your target and your weapons will gain the firing characteristics of their fixed counterparts! Never stress over chaff again.
 
I'm no ace but these are a couple of tips;
1. Throttle management - more pips in throttle will mean better manoeuvrability - centre of the blue zone for the best turn rate, juggle your throttle to position yourself, go faster to skid wider and use your thrusters to maintain your position in relation to him - combined with FA off this is very effective but doesn't always need FA off.
2. If you find yourself in a turning contest and you are not winning do a 180 roll and go the other way - often he will just float right through your sights.
3a. Don't be afraid to boost to clear the area and set yourself up again for another head to head, slow down to optimal turn speed and this time as you pass him roll to his attitude and pull your stick back to follow him.
3b. This time when you are head to head aim slightly offset (keep him above you) as you get close use your thrusters down and aim at a point just behind him. This will start you turning before he is past and then as he passes pull back hard and it will usually put you on his tail.
4. If you are in a turning contest and you see his tail at the top of your window try FA off. You will turn faster.
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Keep experimenting and most of all enjoy yourself
 
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I fly in a viper right now, and half the time against an eagle I get within 1-2km and with FA off end up pivoting backwards, something like a turret. With all gimbal multicannons it makes quick work of an eagle.
 
why dog fight? accerate past him flight assist off and wait for him to come to you as you face backwards......


( i play mostly larger ships ferdilance and federal drop ship are my main combat ships currently)
 
You may need to roll, to bring weapons to bear. Not *always* useless.

Atmospheric flight is probably coming with Planetary Landings.

True, but I think there's a point in that aerial combat tactics don't quite translate to an arcade space game, although you'd be the one to tell us :) Some stuff must certainly be helpful but essentially we're inventing an entirely new form of combat with it's own maneuvers and tactics, which is pretty cool and rewards the creative and skilled pilots. The 'WW2 dogfighting in space' does get overplayed, it's really nothing like that when you start using thrusters etc.

Also.. tried the Incursion training mission when the servers were down earlier, damn but that's hard as nails with the new AI. Anybody feeling complacent about their piloting abilities should revisit it.

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I knew it! You are writing code to have Anacondas mount us like stallions with their massive Plasma Accelerator hanging underneath them...

Explains your avatar's expression :eek:
 
Thanks Sarah for all the fun!

I highly recommend this awesome read:

IN PURSUIT
A Pilot’s Guide to Online Air Combat
by JOHAN KYLANDER

I would post a direct link of the pdf, but meh...
Now I know this is for online air combat, but much of this is real-world translatable and still highly usable in space! I love it!!! :D

Good Hunting! -=S=-
 
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While the 1.3 beta was being tested I wiped my Cmdr and started again. I decided to use only FA/Off for combat.
I had a little practice at landing, then to a res zone and then to a combat zone. Maybe about 6 hrs of practice over a few days.
I have no idea what all this Newtonion stuff is but I understand thrusters from flying with FA/On.

All the videos posted on my channel are my first week flying FA/Off, in combat, against real players.
You will see mistakes, ofc. I am new to FA/Off, just don't be afraid of it.
Oh and it's a Viper :)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfv2AqA002FGCUizv9iLwRA

You can do it.
Enjoy.

Luv your vids. Very encouraging to keep practicing FA-off
 
Little tip, if you don't want to use FAoff to get an angle on an Eagle, you can thrust downward while up pull up. When you think you are perpendicular to your target, keep pulling up but switch to upward thrust. You'll end up at about 1.5km away pointed directly at them. Be warned, they will be pointed directly at you, too.
 
What a great thread. I've heard of all these techniques, practiced some but to hear others experience with them is encouraging. Too much good advice from too many to acknowledge all of you. Even the conflicting opinions are valuable 'cause it's fit-to-size anyway.

The only thing (mentioned by Zeeman and R.Roach) I can expand upon that was important to me is to visit the Training/Practice areas (main menu), circle and shoot a few rocks (Target Practice level) then move up to Basic Combat. Don't shoot at the guy (yet) and it won't shoot back. You can follow its tail - lots of swooping and turning. Now you can shoot ;-) This is fantastic for learning the techniques one at a time and in combination; mix and match as you see fit. Does not cost you anything to die here. Can concentrate on skill with no stress. And lets face it, its Dangerous off the practice field!

In the Training levels you won't be in the ship you want to be in (I wish) but of course, the skills are transferable. Work your way through some of the other levels and you will be Elite Dangerous ..... as yet, I am only Mildly Annoying.

Get good at each tool/technique in turn. Hopeless if doing too much too soon

Gear up to head tracker, voice commands, stick and throttle controllers; as stated by others, these tools make a _huge_ (night/day) difference. I'm at s&t, ready to set up Voice.

Also get your key-mapping right. Junk the default settings and carefully construct the settings for fluidity, logic and no conflict; eg, if your panel display button is next to your pip control hat ... well, that just goes wrong at the worst times (ask me how I know that ....).

Then go out and kill something ..........
 
For your amusement. A Dog, fight in a Viper.
Taken 14th June, I believe post, the goddess of minions, up dates. But I could be wrong.
Using: Just a laptop keyboard and still working on improving the recording graphics, but fun, a very enjoyable game. Low intensity CZ, so yes, I had help from my allies; but them, every target, is, Elite.

Enjoy and Hail!

[video=youtube;FF97pjni5Cw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF97pjni5Cw[/video]

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