Are Crystal Shard Sites Permanent?

[UTU2TM]

I have a bunch of these bookmarked, but when I went to the system map, it doesn't even show biologicals.
I probably discovered these sites over a year ago, the system and bodies have my commander tag, but no mention of the bios.

 

[yianniv]

If you mean crystalline shards, yes, they're permanent. But to show in the system map you have to be very close to their planets, and having mapped them also.

 

[UTU2TM]

If you mean crystalline shards, yes, they're permanent. But to show in the system map you have to be very close to their planets, and having mapped them also.

Okay, so the server needs a valid reason to fetch the data.
I have so many of these things bookmarked ingame and on edsm, that it looks like that's all I do. I was hoping that the shard sites were temporary.

 

[UTU2TM]

If you mean crystalline shards, yes, they're permanent. But to show in the system map you have to be very close to their planets, and having mapped them also.

Okay, so the server needs a valid reason to fetch the data.
I have so many of these things bookmarked ingame and on edsm, that it looks like that's all I do. I was hoping that the shard sites were temporary.

 

[varonica]

I have a bunch of these bookmarked, but when I went to the system map, it doesn't even show biologicals.
I probably discovered these sites over a year ago, the system and bodies have my commander tag, but no mention of the bios.

Where are you looking? The number of bio sites should be in the left panel of the system map for each planet/moon. You won't see the locations by zooming in to the planets in the system map, they will only resolve when you actually fly close enough to the body in question. And yes you must have scanned the body using the FSS and then mapped the body using the DSS for them to show at all.

 

[UTU2TM]

Ok. The left panel wouldn't even display biological or geological sites until I was in the system.
Even though i had previously discovered, mapped, and cashed-in the cartographic data.

 

[varonica]

Ok. The left panel wouldn't even display biological or geological sites until I was in the system.
Even though i had previously discovered, mapped, and cashed-in the cartographic data.

That's correct it won't, they are loaded with the system, they are part of the body sub-system, to store the entirety of all the sites on all the planets and moons that a pilot has explored would quickly start to get overwhelming, so the basic system data only is present until you jump into the system, that's when it loads all the data for the system, the hyperspace jump is basically a loading screen.

 

[Zieman]

that's when it loads all the data for the system

AFAIK, the data isn't stored anywhere (apart from scanned/mapped tags maybe), but it is the procedural generation and 'aging' of the system that happens during the jump sequence.

 

[varonica]

AFAIK, the data isn't stored anywhere (apart from scanned/mapped tags maybe), but it is the procedural generation and 'aging' of the system that happens during the jump sequence.

You are right of course, I have tried to explain this before about procedural generation, but it doesn't seem to get through, the data that's downloaded is the seed used to generate the system details, only hand made assets get loaded separately like stations and planetary outposts, which is why you can see them from the system map by zooming in.