Are we seeing the beginning of the end of ED?

Well im worried about fdev and where there taking the game, it really looks like most of the community has been let down or lost all faith in Fdev. The community is also shrinking every week since odyssey came out no surprise there givin the state of the current game. Me personally, i think its because once maxed out in everything, theres nothing to do in odyssey anymore. i mean , theres only stealing loot or shooting npc's since most people consider the plant scanning to be horribly boring and a waste of time. were starting to see the diehard fans and content creators now complain about odyssey and the current state of ED. hawks gaming was also saying that if he makes an odyssey guide it hurts his channel and channel income because no1 care about odyssey anymore so no1 is watching the content. D2EA also confirmed this and commented "as so many other have a deep love for the game and seeing the community shrink like it dose makes me sad. Like many other im beginning to fear we are at the beginning of the end for Elite Dangerous. I can confirm that the interest for guided and tutorials for odyssey is basically non existent." This is pretty sad to see. i hope Fdev can really fix this sinking ship known as odyssey. But given Fdev's track record ,i won't hold my breath or even expect them to do anything that the players actually wanted .
 
I've been in elite since launch and have spent thousands of hours in my "virtual life" out here in the black and the bubble. edo has given fdev a black eye and it appears there's not a fix in the near future. with the ever dwindling player base and people jumping ship (excuse the pun) what are they going to do to fix it? imo they need to actually listen to the players, do a complete reboot on edo and move forward. I can deal with it if they said "hey all, this is a mess and we're going to pull it down rework it from the ground up" we'll update a true release date in the near future. I can take harsh truths but what's been delivered so far lacks any truth and only failed promises.
 
I've been in elite since launch and have spent thousands of hours in my "virtual life" out here in the black and the bubble. edo has given fdev a black eye and it appears there's not a fix in the near future. with the ever dwindling player base and people jumping ship (excuse the pun) what are they going to do to fix it? imo they need to actually listen to the players, do a complete reboot on edo and move forward. I can deal with it if they said "hey all, this is a mess and we're going to pull it down rework it from the ground up" we'll update a true release date in the near future. I can take harsh truths but what's been delivered so far lacks any truth and only failed promises.
this is the truth! your so dead on
 
Shame all this is going on, it being made worse by being told..... Honest, honest words are cheap type comments.

Not doing the development stream and suggestung this time, things will happen and didn't, hasn't helped.

It can be saved, but people need to talk and start delivering on some of the promises, that all....

Odyssey is good in the main, great platform for future. Its being let down by two main issues planet tech and planet surface performance. Even with fsr cas planet settlements don't use all of your gpu while dropping fps. Stations are fine on foot and use all of gou, weird.

Please talk, share issues, share why planet tech isn't working, show what it should look like.
Describe what being done, then I think this storm in a teacup will go away
 
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"nothing to do?" I am only at 17 weeks x160 hours = 2,240 hours. I have all the engineers unlocked, drank my fill and dismissed the pvp element, made billions to the point of not worrying about money and I still have more crap I am interested in doing, more than a human can live to play through. finding what you "want" to do may be an accurate statement but I would wager no one has put in the hours to do "everything" the content is here, finding it is on you. Exploration has always felt like startrek, bounty hunting and space trucking always felt like starwars, now we have odyssey, which is manadalorian\metal gear\starship troopers. plenty to do you just literally have to do the thing you feel like doing.
 
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I hope not.
over 18k hours invested.
that's 1 of a few accounts...you can easily double it to add my other accounts

as for hours and what paths...
I am one of the ones that did a lot, earned a lot, went into the BGS to alleviate boredom whilst in between adventures and pmf wars.
I still enjoy the adventures, but thanks to too many kicks in the guts due to sloppy releases, the BGS is no longer of any use or interest.

FWIW, for all those that say this is fine, etc.. its hard for people to tell fdev whats broke if you only dabble in small areas of the vastness of this game.

I want to give a picture as I see it, and it will explain why so many things seem ok, but are not.

We started with ED, built on it, fixed bugs, mission, materials, exploration, mining, adventures..
we added Horizons, we did more of the fixing..etc
alllll good stuff.
I'm one of the guys that wanted a carrier for my fleets, so that's on me(and many others)

then someone thought to take the engine that is our ship.
turn it into a glove that fits your body as a suit.
they stuffed this into ED+ Horizons.

Now we have 2 games that are built on the same plan. but one is just used as a suit so we can exit ships and go places on foot.
this is where the problem is.
an entire copy of what we had, but with none of the bugfixes and fine tuning and variable adjustments were added/implemented. This is what we are currently helping them resolve.
and once it is complete the 2 games will work nicely in concert.
But, till that happens we are in a very poorly done alpha attempting to be a beta but 'LIVE'.

who keeps muttering 'What could go wrong?'
r u new?
A smart person at this point would quickly put something together called a beta... allow us to help
and solve the graphics issue asap
FOCUS!
.seems lacking at the moment.

so if you remember what it took to get us to the point of horizons working well...with EDO, we are just past the first year of ED.

I would love to know who thought this could work this way smoothly.
And knowing what needed to be done, what the ^%*^%& was going on all this time??

the thing that destroyed the game for me is the BGS, its current state is a joke.
rumor of us being able to build bases still has me intrigued though.
If the plan is to make it seem like the universe is alive and that every action will cause a seeable change within the hour...that's a good thing.
It would be nice to tell us though. because there is no plan like the one on the seat of your pants.
and you cannot manage dozens of systems without a plan.
it is currently reactionary which is no fun at all.

And lastly as for the adventures aka the stories, the lore.. I do hope they are still what they were.
That last video I watched from Drew about the stories is disgraceful, and hopefully zero truth in it.

I have never been this bored.
 
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They need to fix what is broken and then add in something (so close to free, its free, but make it an actual expansion so that its a new steam product to fix the negative rating) that is good and stable... building stations, new ship, interior, nomadic new faction... something to apologize and get people to try the game again (but only AFTER things are fixed)
 
way before odyssey was even a thought. all i ever wanted was to walk around in my ship. not outside on some planet with a straight up pointless atmosphere. yea i assumed walking on planet surfaces was the real goal but to me ship interiors was my only goal. so my most wanted aspect of space legs was instantly shot down by fdev when they announced they had no plans to ever make ship interiors a thing. Even though more then half of the community wanted and thought it would be a thing. Well it hurt, so i tossed that dream in to the trash can, and focused on the only 2 things to do in odyssey that matter get everything to lvl 5 with 4 perks and maxing out my Merc. combat rank. now im at square 1 again board with nothing to do . Like Delta G, who named the basic stuff you do when u just start playing elite for the 1st time. I also have every engineer unlocked, 29 billion , 2 or 3 of every ship in the game fully engineered. i have been to the other side of the galaxy and back , i explored the void and i have been to colonia and Sat A. about 5 times now just for the fun of it. i even took my FC there once. hell ive even went on a 8 month expedition all over the galaxy. just to see all the alien life out there with my own eyes , mollusc, pods , gords, all the cool stuff i seen on Crimshadow's channel. after playing for years i have done everything multiple times that i ever wanted to do. i cant explore anymore now it hurts my soul to see the same exact planets over and over and over with just different paint jobs . odyssey was supposed to change all of that, but completely failed on just about everything. i wish i could return this odyssey crap and get my money back. ....... if u want to laugh ...... i pre bought this dlc.....lol jokes on me. i seen a comment that stuck with me a while ago, "this should not have been called elite Dangerous :Odyssey, it realistically should have been named Elite Dangerous :Exodus .

for the record: i have 1 toon and i have spent 3033 hours on this 1 toon.
 
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by the way , i never did finish my merc rank. im on the 1st lvl of elite i believe and i gave up.i honestly just dont care about it anymore, it feels so pathetic sitting there shooting threat lvl 3 npc's because there so easy to kill. i only do lvl 3 ground conflicts to grind rank and make credits , but like i said there just way too easy. even that has became the same old boring grind. what exodus really needs , i mean odyssey is a CQC mode for ground PVP players only no npc. 15 vs 15 or 10 v 10s in TDM, CTF, and all the other fun game modes. but in the real world I know im wasting my breath by saying what fdev could or should do.
 
Very sad to say it.
But yes.
I think DB got bored of it...
I think he just wants to retire?
Ultimately it is his, & he clearly did not give a rats aXs about Odyssey...
 
No one watching their tutorials doesn't mean the game is dead lol... that means no one cares about their vids! 🤣🤣🤣😀
Look at the comment section and like to dislike ratio of one of Obsidian Ant's videos and compare that to Frontier's official Elite livestream. One "thread" on OA's channel gets more traffic than this entire forum does in a single day. Same goes for D2EA and others. A surprising number of people care about their vids, but most are more interested in videos discussing the current state of game rather than "How do I engineer my space suit in Odyssey?" videos, because many are unable or unwilling to actually play Odyssey at the moment, let alone engineer a suit.

But you are correct, this does not mean the game is dead. As long as the servers are running, the game is technically alive, even if only 100 people are playing. The server I play on for Space Engineers has a cap of 16 players at one time, and as long as there are a couple other people playing, I consider the game alive and well. Keen allowing their servers to fall apart, on the other hand...
 
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