ASW and nausea

[Gortron]

I'm not a big fan of ASW because of the artefacts etc that many people are no doubt aware of.

Recently I decided I'd put up with those issues to improve the sharpness. An odd side effect of that was I got really sick really fast anytime ASW was active. It took me a while to realise that was the issue but it was/is. I can turn off ASW and have frame rates bouncing about all over the place but it will make me feel less sick than 45 fps with ASW on.

I don't understand why this happens as it makes no sense visually. I with ASW on everything is smooth and might as well be at 90 fps but it makes me feel sick. With ASW off it is not always smooth and sometimes looks like I've boshed some LSD, yet it never makes me feel anywhere near as sick (light air sickness at most).

Does anyone else experience this or know why it happens? I've not backed the Pimax but it looks as if it is gonna be really good. There would be no point me buying it if runs in ASW all the time as I'd just want to barf the whole time!

 

[Laste]

Same here, normally don't play with it on.
Turned it on and got vertigo immediately, turned it off ,as it was the only thing i changed, and it stopped.

 

[Pville_Piper]

Doesn't bother me at all. In fact, I increased my settings so that it would kick in and stay in around stations, while I'm in the mission board or on the surface.

The juddering and artifacts are almost non existent as long as the ASW isn't popping in and out.

 

[Older Gamer]

Excuse my ignorance, but how do you turn off ASW?

 

[kiario]

Excuse my ignorance, but how do you turn off ASW?

you can do it in the debug panel for rift. ITs a exe in the same folder as the oculus exe.

Regarding ASW I have no issues.

Nausea, is it like feeling alittle Dizzy in the head? If its that then its a positive thing.

Drving the SRV though more than an hour in VR gets me a lttile stomach sick and thats not pleasant

 

[Gortron]

you can do it in the debug panel for rift. ITs a exe in the same folder as the oculus exe.

Regarding ASW I have no issues.

Nausea, is it like feeling alittle Dizzy in the head? If its that then its a positive thing.

Drving the SRV though more than an hour in VR gets me a lttile stomach sick and thats not pleasant

We at least it isn't just me if affects. Nausea is just a posh way of saying something makes you feel sick.

btw you can also turn off ASW with left ctrl+ numpad 1 and back on with left ctrl + numpad 4.

 

[TorTorden_VR]

you can do it in the debug panel for rift. ITs a exe in the same folder as the oculus exe.

Regarding ASW I have no issues.

Nausea, is it like feeling alittle Dizzy in the head? If its that then its a positive thing.

Drving the SRV though more than an hour in VR gets me a lttile stomach sick and thats not pleasant

Well obviously you don't have issues with ASW cause, you are never not in it.

And no, nausea its not the fun light-headedness you would get from half a bottle of whisky, it's a torturous, immediate sense and need to Get this thing off my face NOW before I puke
Like mixing a bottle of whisky with a bottle of red.
Sure there are degrees.

I'm no fan of ASW either, especially in ED, but personally I find ASW in 45fps much better than the game doing 70-75%, that is truly nauseating to me.
I just honestly prefer not using SS at all in Elite.
Yes there are small improvements, but they dont add much, I honestly find a slightly blurry image preferable to having an image scaled down to match the native res of the rift.
It is the native res of the rift that is the problem, and NO MATTER how much SuperSampling you apply you will never get a significant improvement. When combined with the cost to performance, then no.

And that's why I backed the pimax 8k, and I am hopefull, in fact I believe that reverse SS will be the better solution, anyone who has seen a Blueray 1080p movie on a good 4k screen has to admit the upscaling chips in use there are excellent, also not to mention most movies on UHD disc are just 2k movies upscaled as well.

A high res native panel, and a smaller rendertarget, then upscaled through hardware in the HMD will fix the issue of SDE.
Wether the Pimax will be usable is another matter, but I don't mind that they might be dropping to 80hz, it's the fact that the rift and vive are so tuned for 90hz they simply cannot display lower framerates without issues.
We might need higher, probably double the native res of the Pimax 8k per panel to completely saturate the eyes native resolution, but should be a decent step forward.

Those new OLED panels from Google and LG also sound intriguing.

Next few years will be interesting.