Nothing to do with no wipe in Gamma, many new players have made millions since the 16th, I have made less than 1 million(my choice) , best advice for your dad is to play solo for now. Griefing in MMOs have been a problem since the first ever MMO.
attitude to new players disgusting
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A wipe won't stop that kind of attitude Avnas. Even if the game were reset these players race for the biggest ship.
There is however a method of controlling it which is part of the game design which as yet hasn't yet been investigated.
.... That is one of mass.
A small lightly armoured ship should in theory have less mass and therefore be able to make fast changes in vector and acceleration.
A larger more armoured machine with bigger engine and weaponry cannot make such quick direction changes or accelerate as quickly.
It seems all the ships in Elite fly at the same speed and are subject to the same physics regardless of the engine, armour, load and weapons.
For instance a volkswagen beetle fitted with a Mustang engine would probably rip its wheels off from a standing start.
A School Bus with a Mustang engine would probably struggle to accelerate fully loaded by drive reasonably well empty.
But a mustang with a volkswagen beetle engine would probably explode on take off, burn the clutch out or stall the engine.
These calculations could be made in the space station when changing loadout weapons etc before each launch or when cargo is gained or dropped, or fuel loaded. Then used as the physics for that specific ship.
In that case your father could have replied "Catch me if you can!" and vanished in his lightly armoured ship weaving like it was going out of business, while the pirate ship struggled to catch up or retain targeting.
There are other solutions to game bullies but they all require game design changes.
Electronic Counter Measures (basically Lock on / Radar Jamming) ...Smoke canisters (To prevent lasers and conceal direction changes). Cloaking systems.
I think Flares and chaff is already implemented.
Commander Christopher Neary
Providing daft ideas in computing since 1978
There is however a method of controlling it which is part of the game design which as yet hasn't yet been investigated.
.... That is one of mass.
A small lightly armoured ship should in theory have less mass and therefore be able to make fast changes in vector and acceleration.
A larger more armoured machine with bigger engine and weaponry cannot make such quick direction changes or accelerate as quickly.
It seems all the ships in Elite fly at the same speed and are subject to the same physics regardless of the engine, armour, load and weapons.
For instance a volkswagen beetle fitted with a Mustang engine would probably rip its wheels off from a standing start.
A School Bus with a Mustang engine would probably struggle to accelerate fully loaded by drive reasonably well empty.
But a mustang with a volkswagen beetle engine would probably explode on take off, burn the clutch out or stall the engine.
These calculations could be made in the space station when changing loadout weapons etc before each launch or when cargo is gained or dropped, or fuel loaded. Then used as the physics for that specific ship.
In that case your father could have replied "Catch me if you can!" and vanished in his lightly armoured ship weaving like it was going out of business, while the pirate ship struggled to catch up or retain targeting.
There are other solutions to game bullies but they all require game design changes.
Electronic Counter Measures (basically Lock on / Radar Jamming) ...Smoke canisters (To prevent lasers and conceal direction changes). Cloaking systems.
I think Flares and chaff is already implemented.
Commander Christopher Neary
Providing daft ideas in computing since 1978
Absolute rubbish !!!
I tested the rare trading in all the ships except the conda , and found that the python with around 286t of cargo space(kept a scoop too) was the best rare money maker at around 18M an hour, we had less than 60 hours of that rare trade bonanza. If you played non stop you would have made a billion,if that.
The "no wipe" was a thank you for our testing, sorry you didn't make it.
Bottom line is that the new player experience for this game is pretty lacking in just about every way. The wipe/no wipe debate is only a small part of this.
First impressions are everything with games these days and the ones that I've been seeing/hearing have been mixed at best. Frontier may not care because they've already got the cash, but how many players who bought this on release are going to recommend their friends pick it up? Probably not most of them.
I'm not blame slinging or anything, but there it is. A lot of people here on the forum and in this thread have been playing through the testing phases for months now and I believe have lost the ability to see this game through the eyes of a new player just starting out.
First impressions are everything with games these days and the ones that I've been seeing/hearing have been mixed at best. Frontier may not care because they've already got the cash, but how many players who bought this on release are going to recommend their friends pick it up? Probably not most of them.
I'm not blame slinging or anything, but there it is. A lot of people here on the forum and in this thread have been playing through the testing phases for months now and I believe have lost the ability to see this game through the eyes of a new player just starting out.
Since in game communication is rather poor I would be amazed if a majority of players are aware of their protection party. Not everyone reads the forums.
There is already a "bubble" its called Solo or Group play. As others have said, play that until you get better ships & weapons, then when feeling competent enough to take on other ships change to open play...
Your dad has plenty of options to avoid this:
- in open: travel away from the starter zone. I'm guessing 10-15 jumps will suffice, but more are better
- play in solo until he's in a better ship and/or more comfortable
I personally have only ever experienced griefing like that twice since PB, which is something like a 4-5 month time period, maybe even more. I've lost track if time!
- in open: travel away from the starter zone. I'm guessing 10-15 jumps will suffice, but more are better
- play in solo until he's in a better ship and/or more comfortable
I personally have only ever experienced griefing like that twice since PB, which is something like a 4-5 month time period, maybe even more. I've lost track if time!
This is the result of a twit being a twit ('d have used far more appropriate but adult language if I was allowed) and not the lack of a wipe.
The post boils down to you sticking up for your Dad though in some sort of parental protection outburst, which I commend
There is a bubble for as long as you want. It is called SOLO mode.
Signed,
Someone who started on launch day and was killed, called it a learning experience.