Azimuth Reclamation of D2

Azimuth has been sitting idle too long. D2 needs to be reclaimed.

I suggest Azimuth take the Musashi Megaship and move in to forcefully reclaim their property. D2 is a significant asset that can be used to destroy the Thargoids once and for all. We can no longer sit idle, Azimuth property MUST be returned immediately.

Rademaker needs to make bold moves to secure humanities future, by force, if necessary. The time is now, Azimuth must secure our future.
 
Azimuth has been sitting idle too long. D2 needs to be reclaimed.

I suggest Azimuth take the Musashi Megaship and move in to forcefully reclaim their property. D2 is a significant asset that can be used to destroy the Thargoids once and for all. We can no longer sit idle, Azimuth property MUST be returned immediately.

Rademaker needs to make bold moves to secure humanities future, by force, if necessary. The time is now, Azimuth must secure our future.
Not a bad idea in concept, but there's not a darn chance that the players would allow it to happen.

If it happens without player input, players'll be ed.
If there's a competitive CG, Azimuth will lose.
You MIGHT be able to pull off some sort of 'bad vs worse' scenario, where Azimuth tries to take D2 and some other bad power comes in to 'save' her, and you force players to choose between supporting, say, Azimuth vs Archon Delaine. But even then, I'd bet on Azimuth losing, since they're a known bad while the other would be an unknown bad.

I suppose what you could do is tie it into the Nemesis storyline, and if you could separate Nemesis from Azimuth, so much the better.

Have D2 be moving from Aegis custody to somewhere else, maybe somewhere nominally safer, when suddenly they come under attack. At first they think it's thargoids, but then they're shocked to see they're Guardian constructs, instead. Weapons designed for humans or thargoids are ineffective against their powerful shields, and D2 is taken. Azimuth is questioned but even they admit they don't have that level of technology.

A search takes place, with an estimated survival chance for D2; the faster players search, the more likely she is to survive, with maybe a 6 week countdown. The Guardian ships undertook a series of jumps to throw off pursuit, but the speed of the jumps left behind Guardian residue in asteroid belts, and each bit contains a signature that tells the approximate distance of the ensuing jump. This still leaves tens of thousands of systems to search, but it makes it much more attainable. Some math could be done to estimate how long it will take for each discovery, then you just make enough steps for it to be something that's possible in under 6 weeks with some luck and coordination.
At the end, players could find a suborned unmarked guardian site, enhanced with human technology, where super guardian sentinels and guardian Goliaths are defending it, all protected from the sky by a large energy shield. Players need to coordinate to penetrate the base and free D2.

Depending how long she's been held, D2 will be in a better or worse state, and Nemesis will know more or less about how to create more like her. Given that it'll be basically impossible to find her in the first few weeks, she'll definitely be in tough shape, but at least she'll be alive.

After the event is over, the super guardian base will be abandoned by Nemesis but will remain as a really great way to collect guardian mats, but only as a team, because the enemy firepower is so ridiculous it takes multiple Scorpions just to make a dent in the spawn rate.
 
It has repeatedly been said that Azimuth are the good guys here. The Empire has their slaves and property, and the Federation have outlawed those communicating with the Thargoids. D2 is rightfully Azimuth's and is a risk and huge liability to humanity.

Aegis has said it's illegal to attack their assets, but D2 is clearly property of Azimuth. As such, Azimuth property should be returned immediately. Not just for the sake of Azimuth, but for the Safety and Security of humanity.
 
The phrase "Good Guys Azimuth" has been said many times. They are willing to do what it takes to achieve humanities survival.
Oh sure, by completely reducing humanity’s nature to a bunch of savages performing all kinds of atrocities to get what they want.

Here’s two hints.

One, “D-2” is a person, you know, someone that feels things and is not just an inanimate object which doesn’t care what’s done to it. She also has a name, which is Seo Jin-ae, and is not “company property”.

Two, if Azimuth does anything directly against Aegis as you suggest, that will not just result in political suicide, but be quite literally it for them. They’re on thin ice after the Proteus Wave - after which they should have been torn down anyway - already, but outright attacking Aegis? There couldn’t be a stupider move.

And they are not the “good guys” by any stretch of the imagination. I don’t count genocide as being a “good guy” regardless of the species.
 
Hairless apes in this story are not even close to being the good guys . It's all about control of a commodity and they don't care who or what they step on to get to it
 
The phrase "Good Guys Azimuth" has been said many times. They are willing to do what it takes to achieve humanities survival.
That's odd, following this storyline since "The Hesperus", I've never heard it once.
Even when we were gladly collecting the shiny rewards, everyone still seemed suspicious of Azimuth, and I never saw anyone refer to them as the good guys.
Especially since we have now learned they were responsible for baiting the Thargoids into human space purposefully.

And also the whole "Proteus Wave" and "Nemesis" debacle may have caught the attention of the dormant Guardian AI constructs, which from history are much better at exterminating a species than the Thargoids are, so Azimuth has possibly single-handedly doomed humanity.
 
The guardian AI was really good at destroying Guardians , who they thought were worse than the thargoids . I think the AI will take the same view as the Thargoids about humans .. an annoying species but really technologically lacking but with a high opinion of itself .
 
Anyone concerned with Slavery and Indentured Servitude. You should really be looking at doing something about some of the Empire and the other, less scrupulous, powers.

For those wondering about the quote, you really should be following the Livestream's. The really are gems for information.

And for the Proteus Wave, the entire Galaxy was all for stopping the Thargoid threat. No one complained and glady delivered whatever was asked of them. What's one more delivery?
 
There was no real Thargoid threat until Azimuth went out of their way to secretly bait them into the core worlds, several times. Full stop.

If you have a clip of someone on the Frameshift Live claiming Azimuth is the good guys, I'd love to see it, because I've been watching, and must have missed that.

And just for your education, slavery in the Empire doesn't work how you think it does. Otherwise you would see what a ridiculous comparison it is to say that is anything like being kidnapped, tortured, and experimented on, obviously against your will.
 
Anyone concerned with Slavery and Indentured Servitude. You should really be looking at doing something about some of the Empire and the other, less scrupulous, powers.
Ignoring the nuance of Imperial Slavery and taking this argument at face value - you're saying that slavery is bad? That owning people is bad? And this supports your argument that Azimuth should take D-2 as their "property"?
Even if the argument of "but other people are bad too" wasn't flawed, you might want to pick a different example.
And for the Proteus Wave, the entire Galaxy was all for stopping the Thargoid threat. No one complained and glady delivered whatever was asked of them
No, lots of people could identify that the Proteus Wave was a terrible idea and tried to stop it. I and others worked to disrupt the first tests of the superweapon, and OpWH were created to oppose him after his direct reveal as a genocidal nutcase.

For those wondering about the quote, you really should be following the Livestream's. The really are gems for information.
Are you sure it wasn't sarcasm? I rarely watch the livestreams, but even my brief watch a while back saw one of the hosts saying something along the lines of "Obviously someone with a name like Salvation is trustworthy". "Good guy Azimuth" in particular sounds a little sarcastic.
 
If anyone helped at all during the Proteus wave, don't bring your hypocrisy here. While a few prominent people may have opposed it, and probably sabotaged the wave, most seemed to support the effort or thought it was a pretty good idea.

If Azimuth baited an "Ancient Intelligent race", I would love to see that proof. A few people seem to think the Thargoids are some helpless, lost souls, and not the vicious killing machines that they have proven to be. See the guardian logs and any helpless settlement that they destroyed, without warning, or attempting to communicate.

Lastly, I will not debate the merits of signed contracts with esteemed Azimuth volunteers.They know what they are getting into once they arrive at Azimuth's fine and pristine facilities. They are assigned their designations upon arrival and retain such designations until the full execution of their time with Azimuth. D-2 left the program early, and thus has retained their designation.

Azimuth Biotech is here to do the work that must be done. To fight the fights that will bring Humanity victory over the Thargoid menace, because anything less will lead to humanities annihilation.

Source: https://youtu.be/Y6ljFaKRTrI
 
If anyone helped at all during the Proteus wave, don't bring your hypocrisy here. While a few prominent people may have opposed it, and probably sabotaged the wave, most seemed to support the effort or thought it was a pretty good idea.
To leave the RP aspect of the discussion for a moment: The number of players not supporting Salvation in preparation for the Proteus wave and even working actively against him was so large that OWH actually made it into Galnet and can now be considered lore. Certainly more than "a few". Also, players in general will always support the "wrong" or "evil" side if that side offers the right shiny toys. Players are easily bribed.
 
Azimuth has been sitting idle too long. D2 needs to be reclaimed.

I suggest Azimuth take the Musashi Megaship and move in to forcefully reclaim their property. D2 is a significant asset that can be used to destroy the Thargoids once and for all. We can no longer sit idle, Azimuth property MUST be returned immediately.

Rademaker needs to make bold moves to secure humanities future, by force, if necessary. The time is now, Azimuth must secure our future.

Her name is Seo Jin-ae, she is a person, not property.

Be my guest, please try it, it'll be free content and will only serve to grow the Anti-Azimuth movement. Azimuth will be handed another big fat "L" by Reforged AEGIS, Operation Wych Hunt, The Anti Club Accord and all the independent commanders who find Azimuth/Janus/Blackflight/TheClub repugnant.
 
If anyone helped at all during the Proteus wave, don't bring your hypocrisy here. While a few prominent people may have opposed it, and probably sabotaged the wave, most seemed to support the effort or thought it was a pretty good idea.
Well, this doesn't apply to me, nor does popular support for a bad idea make it a good idea (assuming it was indeed "most" supporting it).
If Azimuth baited an "Ancient Intelligent race", I would love to see that proof.
Sure, he transported a ton of Guardian technology into Cornsar so that they would attack it. This is recorded in various places, such as the section on the AXI wiki. And here is a GalNet lending further proof that this was done intentionally to trigger an attack, and that his "detection network" was a lie to cover that up.
As for whatever you're implying about their intelligence, if we suddenly picked up a bunch of signals indicating that the Thargoids were gathering a ton of anti-humanium in a system, we'd probably go try to stop that too.
A few people seem to think the Thargoids are some helpless, lost souls, and not the vicious killing machines that they have proven to be. See the guardian logs and any helpless settlement that they destroyed, without warning, or attempting to communicate.
Oh boy, I am more than happy to textwall for the next five pages of this thread on this subject if you want. The Thargoids have shown more restraint than humanity on numerous occasions before and during this war. The Guardian logs are evidence that the Thargoids are not willing to give up their territory, not that they'll attack for no reason. I can cite many examples if needed, but the TL;DR is that humanity invaded Thargoid territory and has taken numerous steps to escalate the conflict, knowing damn well that anything the Thargoids do in retaliation or self-defence can then be used as retroactive propaganda to justify the initial war in the first place. This is not a story of good humans and bad bugs or vice versa. The most obvious obstacle to that being why those in charge would need to keep deliberately provoking and luring the Thargoids to attack locations if the Thargoids were evil and going to do it anyway.
Lastly, I will not debate the merits of signed contracts with esteemed Azimuth volunteers.They know what they are getting into once they arrive at Azimuth's fine and pristine facilities.
They were kidnapped. Literally kidnapped in escape pods and forced into these experiments. Hell, you're defending something not even the CEO will, "It’s a matter of personal regret that Azimuth’s long history includes examples of such misguided operations."
They are assigned their designations upon arrival and retain such designations until the full execution of their time with Azimuth.
How does this work with the vast majority of the tests being fatal? Execution is the right word.
Azimuth Biotech is here to do the work that must be done. To fight the fights that will bring Humanity victory over the Thargoid menace, because anything less will lead to humanities annihilation.
So far they've only made things worse, so I don't quite trust their track record. "The ends justify the means" is fine and all if your ends are actually good and you can pull them off. Azimuth isn't doing so hot on either of those fronts.

Oh yeah, also Project Seraph was working with Scouts. Truly a weapon to surpass the Titans, we just need to get some of their Sidewinder equivalents up and running.
 
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