Bad Points at ED and how to create a better future

Hi, i m not old in this game, but ive got some Help and have seen lots of things done well and some done cruelsome.

I ll talk about the Cruelsome in the answering posts. First is to find out if posting here works better than in Lore and role.
I wan to talk about

Cargo-Hold
Mining
Cargo Transfer
Money Transfer
 
CARGO HOLD and Storrage

Hi.

We all have a Hangar for the ship, several Store Hangars for several other ships, a crew lounge, Storrage for Materials for Ingineurs, Storrage for Modules... [up]
But we can t store a single ton of Cargo! [down]

That is a very Great problem and Elite Dangerous should be over it since several years.

What happens?
I take mining missions several days to weeks.. mining ang gathering stuff. Several times ive to throw away minered Cargo or fly and sell it for a nearly nothing. ive to get toanother station to buy drones.. go mining... throw away things go mining again and my cargohold space for another materials gets smaller every ton i get for my misison.
THEN.. suddenly after 2 days a friend needs help... i sell all the mission cargo, all the drones , switch to the needed ship ... help him.. and switch back to mining barge... [where is it] and all is gone...
That i ll do once... No friends or no mining is the choice.
The same problem when Hauwling freight... or gathering artefacts.. is no friends really the answer of this game to me? [mad]

What can we do?

How about renting a cargohold on a station?
Cost.. 1 to 10 Cr per tonn (how much likes the corporation my pilot?)
spaces of 10 / 100 / 1000 / 10000 Tonns... (which Trader /Miner Ranking ive got?)
Throwing additional Money onto it and buy more time

After Rent runs out of buyed time..
i Can only take out, but not put in :eek:
1st .. POLICE steps in conficicating every illigal tonn of cargo they find. [cool]
after 12 hours CRMINALS sneak in (noone is watching) and steal 50% :cool:
after 24 hours all stuff is sold on market and the money is sent to my money account. ;)

is that enough action in storing Cargo for ED? [heart]
 
Mining

hiho.. This will be the mining.

After doing about 300 tons of successfull mining i have a look back and remember that ive thought "the game should be called *F.... the miner." :x

It begins with a small rafenerie an pilot gathering fragments in samll ships.
i ve to throw away about 90% of gathered Materials, because the Rafery that costs more than my ship is too small. :mad:
a Rafenery that works with 40% throw away costs 1.2 millions of credits.. [woah]
Nothing for a new Miner that would be proud to miner 1000 Cr into his 4 tonn cargohold.

There had been times when Miner can bring Minered Materials to a station an take Mining missions an sell the stuff this way.
But this seems to not work anymore. all missions you can take are NOT in your Cargohold. [alien]
Friends told me that is programmed this way.[knocked out]
The explenations what stuff i shall miner for missions is aaaaaahm [where is it] near to nothing. I ll have to crash several misisons befor eknowing why and what happend [noob]

There is no sign that tells me that several mission mining Tonns are not been sold anywhere... and it don t tells me what kind of material it is.

In addition Drones expire in time... if crashed against asteroid, if gunfired, if a part of ore is targeted... and so on. They are all 1 tonn and wait in cargohold.
Every few minutes pirates show up, want cargo or begin shooting. Every small Mining ship has to flee ... hope to get away.. drone and ore is lost. Ship is damaged and so on. :rolleyes:
Loosing a 3 million ship for Ore that is about 50 KCr worth is no balance.
Throwing away cargo for not to fly to Station,
Throwing away Ore because 6 Refinery slots are not enough

After 3-4 Hours mining, selling the stuff and having a look at the balance.
Mining 3-4 hours 250 Kcr
Normal Frightfligt with buy and sell 3-4 hours.. 2.5 MCr
Freight and courier Missions 3-4 hours 7.5 MCr

Balancing? is that word ever heared? [haha]

What is the Fun at mining in other games?

After a real-World day with several nerfing hours of work, driving, and doing more stuff i don t want to be stressed more. I don t nee another Job in elite dangerous that is not real payd but cost money.
I want to get close to friends , do some aside gaming while on teamspeak and talking, even do roleplay. At that points the game give me the chance to play it and have a little evening-holyday.
EVE-Online does it well.
We minered in group, chatting and talking. one out of four does the Freight hauwling and brings all that ore back to station....
The Clan (corporation) Taxes 20% and pays money that is shared through the mining group.
The ore is used to produce ships and modules.
That modules and ships are sold...
The Clan strengthens with Ships, Money, and supports the whole universe
I was proud to be a miner.

Even if killer comes and try to kill our Mining barges... it was okay. The police shows up and the killer was annihilated. Only that stupid miner, that had the big large cargoholds are destroied.. we in our clan used Combat mining barges.. :cool: ... Nearly never one of it was destroyed through suicide attacker.

What can i do in ED if i want that feeling again?
mining? NO. :|
Group-Freigter-Missioneering .. YES!!!! [smile]

Get 4 pilots together, find an industrial that calls for Materials... take missions to BUY that stuff... fly with 4 Freighters... to buy it. get it back and end misison.
Sometimes on will be snatched at FSA, but if he is small he cann escape.. if not .. he will have to burn to reactivate FSA ... or throw away some tons and get some new...
You ll have to chat with the partners.. and have a lot of disziplin in using Black table (because of bug) and entering and leaving stations, but in the end it is wellness after a hard day of work.
In TS Wing-Freigthing we do in the mining channel :D

What to do to make Mining better?
How about filling up tonns in the Ship cargo if the refinery is fulled to maximum? That Ore could be 1 to 2 tonns per additional Refinery slot ... and the Rafinery refiners 100% Ore into one ton Cargo-Freight.
Mining ships without refinery could get the ore and bring it back to station and sell it for half price...
First mining would be possible from Adder and hauwler .
 
Cargo Transfer

hiho this will be cargo transfer.

At the moment cargo is thrown out and gathered in space... [yesnod]

Docking to a Cargohold on Station would be fine
Transfering to another Ship in Storrage on Station a nice gift
Transfering to another Player on that station.. [woah] overhelming advance in gameplay and the start of roleplay actions... or Spacer Guilds.
docking to another Ship and transfering cargo to its cargohold.. Whoohoo (Voice out of the dark "hey guy.. that is planned to next year.") :D

If Transfering Cargo to station is working, the transfer to other Player would be the next step.
 
Money transfer

We have a whole universe that bases on Credits... but noone can pay a friend a single cup of water.

surely. the market... the asia money Farmers a re a great problem in several mmo-space simulations.
But what is money for?

Buing ships,
Buying modules,
Buying fuel
paying fees
Bauying Cargo

what is missing?
renting/buying Quarters,
Renting guilds
Renting NPCs
Renting Places like Bars, Police stations, Factories, Research centers, .....
paying for npc Wingman and his helping ship
buying artefacts to store in a private apartment.
Buying ships to give them to the own clan, so that they can be used for specific Clan-Missions?
hiering NPCs for the Burocracy of that clan or spacer Guild?
hire npcs for a Rescue team.... Bring Fuel, or even come for repairs?
Hire NPC for an planetary assault.
Buy loads of stuff for that NPCs?

We don t need direct money transfer, if ther eis a possibility for money transfer to a spacer Clan that supports its member with stuff like above.
 
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