Mining
hiho.. This will be the mining.
After doing about 300 tons of successfull mining i have a look back and remember that ive thought "the game should be called *F.... the miner." :x
It begins with a small rafenerie an pilot gathering fragments in samll ships.
i ve to throw away about 90% of gathered Materials, because the Rafery that costs more than my ship is too small.

a Rafenery that works with 40% throw away costs 1.2 millions of credits.. [woah]
Nothing for a new Miner that would be proud to miner 1000 Cr into his 4 tonn cargohold.
There had been times when Miner can bring Minered Materials to a station an take Mining missions an sell the stuff this way.
But this seems to not work anymore. all missions you can take are NOT in your Cargohold. [alien]
Friends told me that is programmed this way.[knocked out]
The explenations what stuff i shall miner for missions is aaaaaahm [where is it] near to nothing. I ll have to crash several misisons befor eknowing why and what happend [noob]
There is no sign that tells me that several mission mining Tonns are not been sold anywhere... and it don t tells me what kind of material it is.
In addition Drones expire in time... if crashed against asteroid, if gunfired, if a part of ore is targeted... and so on. They are all 1 tonn and wait in cargohold.
Every few minutes pirates show up, want cargo or begin shooting. Every small Mining ship has to flee ... hope to get away.. drone and ore is lost. Ship is damaged and so on.

Loosing a 3 million ship for Ore that is about 50 KCr worth is no balance.
Throwing away cargo for not to fly to Station,
Throwing away Ore because 6 Refinery slots are not enough
After 3-4 Hours mining, selling the stuff and having a look at the balance.
Mining 3-4 hours 250 Kcr
Normal Frightfligt with buy and sell 3-4 hours.. 2.5 MCr
Freight and courier Missions 3-4 hours 7.5 MCr
Balancing? is that word ever heared? [haha]
What is the Fun at mining in other games?
After a real-World day with several nerfing hours of work, driving, and doing more stuff i don t want to be stressed more. I don t nee another Job in elite dangerous that is not real payd but cost money.
I want to get close to friends , do some aside gaming while on teamspeak and talking, even do roleplay. At that points the game give me the chance to play it and have a little evening-holyday.
EVE-Online does it well.
We minered in group, chatting and talking. one out of four does the Freight hauwling and brings all that ore back to station....
The Clan (corporation) Taxes 20% and pays money that is shared through the mining group.
The ore is used to produce ships and modules.
That modules and ships are sold...
The Clan strengthens with Ships, Money, and supports the whole universe
I was proud to be a miner.
Even if killer comes and try to kill our Mining barges... it was okay. The police shows up and the killer was annihilated. Only that stupid miner, that had the big large cargoholds are destroied.. we in our clan used Combat mining barges..

... Nearly never one of it was destroyed through suicide attacker.
What can i do in ED if i want that feeling again?
mining? NO. :|
Group-Freigter-Missioneering .. YES!!!! [smile]
Get 4 pilots together, find an industrial that calls for Materials... take missions to BUY that stuff... fly with 4 Freighters... to buy it. get it back and end misison.
Sometimes on will be snatched at FSA, but if he is small he cann escape.. if not .. he will have to burn to reactivate FSA ... or throw away some tons and get some new...
You ll have to chat with the partners.. and have a lot of disziplin in using Black table (because of bug) and entering and leaving stations, but in the end it is wellness after a hard day of work.
In TS Wing-Freigthing we do in the mining channel
What to do to make Mining better?
How about filling up tonns in the Ship cargo if the refinery is fulled to maximum? That Ore could be 1 to 2 tonns per additional Refinery slot ... and the Rafinery refiners 100% Ore into one ton Cargo-Freight.
Mining ships without refinery could get the ore and bring it back to station and sell it for half price...
First mining would be possible from Adder and hauwler .