Balls to it

I set out on my biggest exploration in December, a little after the Horizons release. I was bored of local exploration and decided I wanted to get deep. So I aimed for the far right hand side of the galaxy and began jumping. After weeks out there, I decided to finally head into the core as I've not really had much incentive to explore where others have already been. I don't know why I bothered though, A big boring black hole didn't thrill me much. After months away although not playing for some weeks, I decided to head back. Especially after seeing patch after patch release, that had very little impact on my exploration trip, I wanted to see what new ships are around, how the engineers work etc.

It's always nervy heading back into popular space after being away for weeks but this time, with so much data onboard, it was even worse. I was just a few hundred light years from home and in a period of unscoopable after unscoopable stars so once I was low, I decided to check the map for a nearby M class. Bang, interdiction and an almost instant submission....I never play online and I never will, so this was obviously an NPC. Ok, point away, fire up thrusters and boost...ok boost again, snap - crackle and pop, that poxy effect when you're receiving damage. Sheilds down in a flash. Nevermind, been here before, boost again, jump drive is back online so fire it up. Incoming missile, thrusters offline. Incoming missle....ship destroyed.

I lost count of how many earth likes I had discovered, and I must have found 100's of water worlds all untagged of course, I found two just a couple of systems ago which is surprising. I'm        off because I didn't stand a chance here, I've got no weapons and only very weak shields(only equipped for planetary landing), when I built this ASP, things were very different and this is a problem with exploration. Patch releases change the game in a way that can't really be seen when you're 30 thousand light years away for months on end. I really couldn't have done anything different here, I boosted instantly which last time I was in popular space, is normally enough to at least get clear of death, I could have used my repair module...it would have actually been nice to use it as I never pick up any damage now since they nerfed the heat damage we used to get from the stars.

This gamble of spending months out there, only to be destroyed in a flash by the very first NPC I encounter, is far too great for me. I'm alive and at my last station and can rebuy my ship so, how does this work...escape pod and rescued ? Is there really not enough room in my escape pod to fit a black box with all my exploration data...or at least 50% of it ?

I have lost all interest in this game as of now and very much doubt I'll pick it up again. It's back to evochron mercenary for me.

Cmdr Mart1001 out.
 
Ah that sucks. I do agree although when I set out in December I planned accordingly with A6 shields and A7 thrusters on my Anaconda. Returned twice for repairs and fuel limpet restocking and did not get interdicted since I cancelled powerplay and dropped all my cargo before entering civilised space. I also utilised a few tricks I've learnt like never staying in supercruise longer than I have to (new star, scoop, drop out to normal space asap, point, hyperspace) and never travelling a direct route to a target.

If you had online I'd suggest the Iridium wing - specifically there to aid returning explorers.

Personally i'm in the region of you can keep first discovery tags but loose the data value. Not sure if that changes anything for you but that's what I think Developers should change the system to.

Either way it sucks you died and lost your data. After that long time out ships are much weaker (integrity lower) and missiles now do incredible damage to external modules like weapons and thrusters as you've discovered.
If you are going then goodbye, if not or if you return hit me up for any advice. I'm still out exploring till probably November so don't expect to meet me in game before then, I'd definitely throw you a couple mil credits of cargo if you wanted to get back on your feet...
 
Well, that just sucks, CMDR. It is of little comfort, but what happened to you is every explorers worst nightmare and you will not be last this happens to, when coming back from the black.

I understand you were playing in Solo, do you remember where you were killed and by what ship type?
 
That is a real shame and i hope you go back to exploring.

I guess your ship didn't have point defense? Don't get me wrong but 4 utility slots and no point defense? That's like asking for missiles.
 
That is a real shame and i hope you go back to exploring.

I guess your ship didn't have point defense? Don't get me wrong but 4 utility slots and no point defense? That's like asking for missiles.

Don't think explorers setting out in December was prepared for the NPC's in June...
 
Don't think explorers setting out in December was prepared for the NPC's in June...

^^ This; the only reason I have shields is because I'm landing on as and when I feel the need. Nobody, let alone peace loving explorers, was prepared for the carnage that's arrived with 2.1. Probably my own fault as I left my crystal ball back in the repair shop on Founders World....
@Cmdr Mart1001: you have my sympathies Sir. Easy for me to say but, get back in the saddle and out in the black, don't give up on the game
 
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Personally i'm in the region of you can keep first discovery tags but loose the data value. Not sure if that changes anything for you but that's what I think Developers should change the system to.
If anything, the other way around. Credits are easy to come by via non-exploration means and sooner or later we all get to the point where they just don't matter. OTOH, first discovered tags can only be gained once so should require a higher level of achievement. The last thing we want is to see CMDRs self destructing because that's the best way to ensure they get tags on their latest discovery :(
 
i feel you, op - - - been there, done that. after a week or two you'll maybe come to the same conclusion as i did: exploration is about the experience, not about CR or your name on some earthlike. and the experience can't be taken from you.

took me two month before i set out again.
 
Sorry to hear of your misfortune.. that really sucks. I'm in a similar situation right now, heading back after DWE and have a LOT of scan data - gulp :( I usually try to complete whatever I am doing in game before a new release but RL caught me out on this one, and I may just end up paying for it dearly by the sounds of what is happening with the Psycho NPC's. May just have to hit up Iridium Wing for the final leg..
 
Commander I sympathise with you. I left the bubble on 19th December and am only just about to reach Beagle point.
The thought of losing all my exploration data is a difficult one and would be hard to bear.
Thankfully I record all my discoveries, so in theory I could re-trace my steps and re-discover the 18 earth likes, and 3 record breaking systems I've found.
It would still suck though . Strangely I never seem to get any bad encounters when I head back into the bubble and I always play in open, but maybe things will be different now with the Engineer's update.
Take time out mate, see how you feel, and if you do come back, maybe consider winging up with some fellow explorers next time you're heading back to civilisation
 
I've always said that the explorer is the riskiest of professions and this is why. Every explorer's worst nightmare.
OP, I sincerely hope you take a few days to wallow in your self pity, then get back on the horse my friend. And be better prepared next time. Use the engineers to get better jump range, equip good shields, boosters, thrusters, power and point defense and chaff. Drill yourself to be vigilant and prepared for action at all times.

The balm of summer has passed and winter is coming.
 
Oh no dude that is really bad :( I have been there before and know how you feel, it's plain poop (insert swear there :) ) if it's any help, if you do come back to the game and if you try exploration again. I am speaking for myself here but i'm sure others will feel it, I will happily wing with you and escort you back in to the bubble with your data intact. I know it means little but it is all I can offer. Until then...

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Feel for you.

Contact support. After 1.4 or 2.0 (I can't remmebr which) dropped there was an explorer in a similar situation and he had his data restored because he couldn't have been expected to plan for new level of NPC aggression.

Hope it works out.
 
Feel for you.

Contact support. After 1.4 or 2.0 (I can't remmebr which) dropped there was an explorer in a similar situation and he had his data restored because he couldn't have been expected to plan for new level of NPC aggression.

Hope it works out.

I didn't think restoration of data was even possible but I guess things could have changed since I last read about this. They can always give credits etc but afaik the nature of the exploration database prevents data recovery.
 
Thanks for all your encouraging post's guys, Elite explorers are the best Cmdrs in the galaxy.

Thanks for your kind offer Alex, I had 28 mill in the bank when I left and numerous ships dotted around the bubble, unfortunately, that hasn't changed now but, I should still be ok. I was hoping to be rich when I got back of course and was looking forward to viewing the new ships, and as I was Pioneer in rank, I was hoping to reach Elite.

Macros, I had recently passed through Bug Nebula and was about 300 lys from Lodemowo, which is my home base...I use this as it's right on the edge and low down in the bubble but, I normally approach it from the right of the galaxy, but this time I was coming from the north or top, away from cats paw. I had just bookmarked a system but I'll keep that secret as it's where I found two untagged water worlds :)

As I say mls, as you probably know, pre Horizons, you really needed to keep everything on your ASP to D grade or whatever it's called....it's been so long since I was in outfitting...but everything was about weight and I didn't even have sheilds, until forced to get them for this trip for landing purposes. Weapons of any type, even chaff was a no no then. Engineering is one of the reasons I was returning as I was hearing about bigger jump distances, which is always appealing.

I take encouragment from you goemon but, to boldly go where no one has gone before, really needs to be cemented with a tag :) This is my real reason for exploration, to see systems no one has found, and to put my name to them. Of course, I was always convinced that I might be the first person to find a secret space station put in the game by developers but, I gave up on that long ago. It's a shame really as life would exist throughout the galaxy and not just in one area, and I really thought the devs were gonna take the game in this direction.

Like you Col Frost, I too record my major discoveries and plot my routes in a txt file, although I've not really done that since Frontier finally gave us book marks, but the point remains, I would still have to travel a total of around 100 thousand lys to retrace and still risk destruction lol. Though to be fair, maybe I would consider winging it next time, it's something I've never done as I always play solo as I say.

Never pick the game up again ? well of course I was angry and still am but, after some encouring words from you lot and seeing the trumpeter above, I've got a good mind to grab my Vulture and take some NPC frustration out at the nearest Nav Beacon....

Thanks all, Mart.

ps...guess what my cargo was, 5 bloody occupied escape pods I had picked up along the way....that's what he was after and that's what got me killed, because I was too bloody soft hearted to leave these idiot pilots where they had crashed !
 
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Ouch... Condolences mate... I just made it back today, having left last August in a D-rated Cobra. What you posted there was my nightmare on those last 50 jumps. I find it incredible that as a long-range explorer you've got to gamble everything on those last hundreds of LYs back after major game-altering patches. I'd probably have dropped the game for a year or two if a mad NPC had hunted my ship with not even a cargo bay fitted...

If the data can't be saved past death, at least allow us a limited ammo launcher like the heat sinks that'd send all current data back. This way at least we can make data drops sometimes (say before turning back).
 
I guess this is the main reason I don´t have a cargo hold.. Up to far... all the attempts begins with a scann and I always recieve the.. ¨nothing??? My boss won´t be happy"...

After I return from my current trip into the Persean Fade (since the other way is closed.. dam permits.. I have a crush on the Barnard´s loop and can´t reach it.. just like my girl lol). I will see to build an hybrid explorer light fighter.. but until that time... no cargo for me... more life span
 
Woo! we brought him back guys! as the iron born say "what is dead may never die!!!" explorers for life y'all! keep exploring, keep discovering and keep making this game great because without you guys, without this great community the black would be just that little bit darker.

CMDR Ash signing off for now... Got Glastonbury to go to!! :p
 
ps...guess what my cargo was, 5 bloody occupied escape pods I had picked up along the way....that's what he was after and that's what got me killed, because I was too bloody soft hearted to leave these idiot pilots where they had crashed !

Haha, yeah, I had about on my first return trip for restock & repair. Dumped them about 500ly away from human space. I figured If I took them over 30,000Ly someone will find them... :p


Wow, thats news, take a rep. Not often I learn something new these days! :D
 
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