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I came to a conclusion on Steorn about a year ago, and wanted to mention it here but was still nervous i'd regret betraying my true stupidity... but either way, i still can't see the flaw in it.

It's a classical symmetry break - i doubt it breaks CoE at the quantum scale or indeed mass equivalency, but from a purely Newtonian perspective it's possible to sink and source KE to and from nowhere. Must be ZPE/vacuum energy or something. I've even considered energy from time, as flaky as that sounds. In short i've no idea where it comes from or goes to... it just does.

So i'm currently convinced 32nd century spacecraft won't be needing fuel tanks or probably even reaction matter. Rollout begins in a few weeks so we'll all know for sure pretty soon, but as far as i'm concerned it's real mechanical energy more than sufficient for useful work.

Crazy eh.. :eek:
 
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Eh? Are Steorn making noises again? I'm sorry but anyone that gives that lot an ear needs their head checked. I like that they blamed the last failure on a 'Greenhouse Effect' on the bearings...
 
Of course.
I Hope to post good news soon ;)

Hi everyone!

As far as today any news about ASPS drive except that the inventor hopes in a pubblic announcement during 2011 (I assume if he reach his goals).
Informations are scarce but I think this announcement is about showing a take off of one of his prototypes.
We have still to wait for discover if NNP is a hoax or not. :(

But there is another very interesting news that bring us one step closer to hydrogen fuel standard drive :D

Apparently, two researchers from Bologna have built the first commercial cold fusion reactor: it has been shown on January 14th to investors and university professors for official measurements.
Using an input of 600W/h the device delivers up to 12KW/h of thermal energy (the proof is water transformed into steam).
They claims that the reaction could sustains itself without input.
It uses hydrogen and nickel wich i is transformed in copper during the reaction
The drawback is that they refused to show the inside and the working principles of the machine due to patent secrecy and imminent commercialization.
Other liars? I don't know.. is this a hoax?
I really hope it's not!

More informations here, in English:

http://pesn.com/2011/01/14/9501743_10_kW_nickel_hydrogen_cold_fusion_demo_coming_January_15_in_Italy/

AND

http://pesn.com/2011/01/17/9501746_Focardi-Rossi_10_kW_cold_fusion_prepping_for_market/


What do you think? ;)
 
Unfortunately I think that it is a scam. Feels like "I will turn lead into gold, just give me some gold first"...

As far as I can tell they offer no real evidence or a real explanation (citing pending patents), then finish off with asking for donations at the bottom of the linked webpage.
 
well i guess i would rather believe a talking horse...

let's get real apples never fall upwards.

i guess, no i strongly believe that time will tell us it was a bluff.

is it really that easy pulling money out of peoples wallets? (yes, it ever was, think of the beggars prince from persia).

really, lets get real, if there is or would be such a technology our dinosaurus's of companies would have layed ther hands on it.
to explain, NPP's and especially in switzerland the North East Swiss Power Plants community (NOK) have layed back a lot of money for future technologies, just in case something new is coming up. the amount is many 10Billions by now...

...now start thinking...

i know some would argue that they are lame when it comes to revolutionary technologies, true and not true.
they like to make business even tomorrow and after tomorrow.

Feels like "I will turn lead into gold, just give me some gold first"...

i have book to read for yours "the man who sold the eiffel tower"
 
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well i guess i would rather believe a talking horse...

let's get real apples never fall upwards.

i guess, no i strongly believe that time will tell us it was a bluff.

is it really that easy pulling money out of peoples wallets? (yes, it ever was, think of the beggars prince from persia).

really, lets get real, if there is or would be such a technology our dinosaurus's of companies would have layed ther hands on it.
to explain, NPP's and especially in switzerland the North East Swiss Power Plants community (NOK) have layed back a lot of money for future technologies, just in case something new is coming up. the amount is many 10Billions by now...

...now start thinking...

i know some would argue that they are lame when it comes to revolutionary technologies, true and not true.
they like to make business even tomorrow and after tomorrow.



i have book to read for yours "the man who sold the eiffel tower"

I'm a bit skeptic too with Focardi-Rossi device.. but while searching on the net I found some interesting details: rumors says that even U.S D.O.D has tested the device and a worldwide announcement is "only" few months from now.
Unfortunately, every free-energy-breakthrough-physics device is, as you say, always tomorrow, in fact, the "imminent" commercialization of the Steorn EM drive was in 2007 but today we're at the same point.
there is only one proof for those devices: plug some load in it and let me see if works: no matter what, a fridge, a car, a mobile phone, whatever.

Anyway, I still believe ASPS.
The inventor of NNP has been studying his device since early 80s (proven fact), then in mid 90s he moved from Mechanical NNP to Electromagnetic NNP. Only in 2005 he managed to obtain fundings for his invention.
He never tried to sell it to common people like "here's the keys, take your starship and fly to Mars!" but he was searching for industrial partner.
When he found an investor he stopped almost all announcements and now he's dedicating to improve the thrust of his device, only revealing that "I'll show it to the mass only when it'll fly".. quite strange, a 30 years long fraud :)



Stefan Mars said:
As far as I can tell they offer no real evidence or a real explanation (citing pending patents), then finish off with asking for donations at the bottom of the linked webpage.

Wait, that's not their official page, it's an independent website. :)
Their official page is here:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522focardi%2522%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Dqdr:w%26prmd%3Divns&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1

They says that their investors (they claim they're from a big international industry) were attending the demonstration, and some independent professors from the University of Bologna were there to assure the "fair play" of the experiment.
One of them used an instrument brought by himself wich has measured a gamma ray burst in the device.
Anyway they were disappointed when Rossi told them they can't look inside the device because there's a patent pending. :(
 
Not that i expect anyone to believe me, or at least in my sanity, i'm still confident in the Steorn tech. As ever, the apparent stalling has actually been a continual and surprisingly rapid process of development, with so-called 'solid state' versions now being researched. Yes, it sounds exactly like Bearden's MEG (and deserves about as much credence for now) but i'm still convinced the underlying principles are entirely consistent with standard physics... apart from the bit about the field not being able to perform free work. But the rest of it, it's all by the book, straight up.

As for Focardi-Rossi, a colleague in the spudclub is under the impression this isn't so much a fusion effect as a different angle on the same thing BLP are looking at; Mills' hydrino theory. If this is the case then between the pair of them they could be onto something. BLP in particular recently claimed to have developed the tech beyond thermal extraction to direct current production, with significant increases in efficiency.

Gerald Celente's Trends forecasts 2011 as the breakthrough year for these kinds of left-field energy techs, and even names Steorn... I'm kind of inclined to agree, it looks like things are coming to a head. I know i know i was saying that in 2007 but things ARE happening behind the scenes, cool stuff...
 
Not that i expect anyone to believe me, or at least in my sanity, i'm still confident in the Steorn tech.

Are you really? Does it not concern you that they have entirely shifted away from a 'perpetual motion' 'overunity' device that failed under apparently too hot lights to a circuit board generating energy from an induction toroid? To me it seems like another way to get people to invest in another scam except this time they have a rechargeable battery that uses 'overunity' to charge itself... I hope you haven't given them any of your money.
 
Really?

Very interesting, I have read and mostly tried to understand the links provided, even though some of the external pages are difficult to near impossible to comprehend, and also sometimes appear to dissolve into total gibberish.
I have reached a final conclusion………:S
I will no longer give charitable donations to “Ban Military Drives”
 
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