Basic Multi-Crew Summary

Noddie

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Hmm. I don't know about the Keelback only having a single seat. Logically the SLF pilot must have been sat *somewhere* on the ship as they died when it did - So there is more-than-one seat, for sure. Even if one isn't visible from the commander's chair. Given that multicrew uses holographic avatars, as opposed to actual presence, I don't see that it's necessary to have the gunner represented on the ship at all if there isn't space. Do they really need a seat?.

What I'd love is to be able to pilot the Ship whilst a colleague steers the SRV.
 

cmdr_Havalok

cmdr_Havalok
Noddie said:
Hmm. I don't know about the Keelback only having a single seat. Logically the SLF pilot must have been sat *somewhere* on the ship as they died when it did - So there is more-than-one seat, for sure. Even if one isn't visible from the commander's chair. Given that multicrew uses holographic avatars, as opposed to actual presence, I don't see that it's necessary to have the gunner represented on the ship at all if there isn't space. Do they really need a seat?.

What I'd love is to be able to pilot the Ship whilst a colleague steers the SRV.
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I'm with you 100% but this list disagrees with us....
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CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE

CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE
Noddie said:
Hmm. I don't know about the Keelback only having a single seat. Logically the SLF pilot must have been sat *somewhere* on the ship as they died when it did - So there is more-than-one seat, for sure. Even if one isn't visible from the commander's chair. Given that multicrew uses holographic avatars, as opposed to actual presence, I don't see that it's necessary to have the gunner represented on the ship at all if there isn't space. Do they really need a seat?
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The active NPC pilot sits in the hangar apparently (tried to find the FD source for this but unable to). So perhaps a human crew member could sit there if there is no NPC crew hired. I have a feeling that FD will want us to see the holograms of our fellow players, in which case I would question if we will actually be able to use the "downstairs" seat on the Asps.
 

Drelthar

Drelthar
cmdr_Havalok said:
You hurt my feelings when you say that about my list. I'm doing the best I can with it.....:(
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Try harder!

But really... I mean the reality of it is dissapointing.

It's kinda like how ship launched fighters were for about two ships (I know, it's more, but whatever) it's kind of lame.
 

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I can't believe I didn't see this. :p

I vote that your thread gets stickied. You did a good job, better than mine.
 

Kaybe

Kaybe
Please note that the Wiki is edited by users, not the devs.

I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the Keelback was supposed to be a good starting ship for multicrew. And this last year. Wish I could remember where, though. But yeah, it seems very unrealistic that the Keelback wouldn't support multicrew simply because it already has a spot for an NPC to sit.
 

K-Rose

K-Rose
While I can't wait to set my Anaconda up for this.. I really want to get an Adder, set up for Piracy with a Pirate skin, find an instance with 3 Anacondas or something then advertise myself as a Pirate. I'll get some guy in my ship give him 10 seconds to realise the situation then just send a message, "Let's do this..."
 

cmdr_Havalok

cmdr_Havalok
Kaybe said:
Please note that the Wiki is edited by users, not the devs.

I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the Keelback was supposed to be a good starting ship for multicrew. And this last year. Wish I could remember where, though. But yeah, it seems very unrealistic that the Keelback wouldn't support multicrew simply because it already has a spot for an NPC to sit.
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I'll be happy to be wrong about it and update the list, but that WIKI is the only solid info we have for now. I guess the people that are in the BETA will have to give us some feedback.

I'm looking at you you! You MASTER BETAS!



Yes. Yes I went there.
 
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Gallow

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Any response to possibly more roles in multi crew in the future? Because if this is it, that is a huge letdown for me personally. Just a gunner = multi crew is a slap in the face. I don't consider pilot fighters multi crew, in my opinion. Co pilot? Engineering? Science? Navigation? Logistics?
 

Kaocraft

Kaocraft
Gallow said:
Any response to possibly more roles in multi crew in the future? Because if this is it, that is a huge letdown for me personally. Just a gunner = multi crew is a slap in the face. I don't consider pilot fighters multi crew, in my opinion. Co pilot? Engineering? Science? Navigation? Logistics?
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Fighter pilot as "multicrew" member is hilarious. Your job as a crew member onboard my ship is to go to the hangar bay, get into that little ship, and Get. Off. My. Ship.
 
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Freebooted

Freebooted
Why on earth has Frontier opted to make the great content and gameplay they've created so obtusely inaccessible?

For me, the OP's list highlights the frustratingly short-sighted design decision to limit access to the multicrew functionality.

There's no practical reason why lower tier SLF-capable ships like the Keelback and the Federal Gunship shouldn't be able to accommodate three or four crew. As stated elsewhere, NPC fighter pilots occupy a berth in the hangar bay and human players are supposedly only holograms anyway. The physical presence of a chair on the flight deck is a ridiculous reason for the limitation.

I'd managed to convince several friends to return to playing Elite on the strength of 2.3's promise of a co-op gaming experience. However, none of us are in a position to be able to access ships that allow full multicrew content as it's been reserved for the minority of core players who can afford high-end ships. Getting my friends to continue playing is going to be increasingly difficult.

I would be grateful and surprised if anyone can provide a sensible explanation for this choice.
 
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Kaocraft

Kaocraft
Freebooted said:
Why on earth has Frontier opted to make the great content and gameplay they've created so obtusely inaccessible?

For me, the OP's list highlights the frustratingly short-sighted design decision to limit access to the multicrew functionality.

There's no practical reason why lower tier SLF-capable ships like the Keelback and the Federal Gunship shouldn't be able to accommodate three or four crew. As stated elsewhere, NPC fighter pilots occupy a berth in the hangar bay and human players are supposedly only holograms anyway. The physical presence of a chair on the flight deck is a ridiculous reason for the limitation.

I'd managed to convince several friends to return to playing Elite on the strength of 2.3's promise of a co-op gaming experience. However, none of us are in a position to be able to access ships that allow full multicrew content as it's been reserved for the minority of core players who can afford high-end ships. Getting my friends to continue playing is going to be increasingly difficult.

I would be grateful and surprised if anyone can provide a sensible explanation for this choice.
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TBH even before the announcement that everything was just going to be done by remote control anyway, I would have expected there to be at least 2 person crew on every ship, because even the smallest ships in the game are huge and could easily fit a bunch of people onboard. Now that it's established that nobody is even onboard in the first place, it's insanely stupid to have a restriction which essentially amounts to, "hey I'd love to invite you to Skype with me on my ship, but you know - there aren't enough *chairs* . . . "
 
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