Best Thermal Resist Shield - Show me!

timbero

timbero
I shipped over 4 bi-weave shield generators to Lei Cheung and did some thermal resist rolls.

First, I engineered all 4 and then kept re-rolling which ever of the 4 that had the worst stats. Turns out, after a while it's really difficult to select which one is the worst.

Here's what I ended up with:
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You can get lots of goodies as secondaries, optimal strength, explosive resist, optimal hull mass, increased regen speeds. It got me curious, there should be some real gems out there.

I would be very grateful if you could tempt me with some pictures of your best thermal shields. :)
 
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Gunnet

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I always enjoy rolling thermal resist shields. As you say, they have a really nice set of potential secondaries. They seem pretty generous with good rolls too.

Only this evening I did a batch of rolls on some class 8 bi-weaves. I'm not at my ED PC to get a screenshot, but for memory the roll I decided to stick with was actually pretty similar to yours. I had been planning on getting a regen speed secondary, but that combination of optimal hull mass and optimal strength was just too tempting.
 

Arthur Shappey

Arthur Shappey
None of mine are good enough to compete yet. But you can always check out Mini's video on YouTube:

[video=youtube;-2BaSM9aMQc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2BaSM9aMQc[/video]

As an example of someone at least equally obsessed with what is best [and whether you agree, he's usually fun and openly shares what he does!]
 

yolomcbobbinz

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I hear and see a lot of people go for max shield strength but that's a bad idea because it will take forever to recharge, resistance for the win
 

Arthur Shappey

Arthur Shappey
yolomcbobbinz said:
I hear and see a lot of people go for max shield strength but that's a bad idea because it will take forever to recharge, resistance for the win
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That argument doesn't actually make much sense. Regen-rate is key.

But a regen-rate of 4/sec and a max strength of 1000 is not as good as a regen-rate of 4/sec and a max strength of 3000.

Yes 3000 will take longer to recharge, but you'll still have at 1000 back in the same time as the lower shield, and in the long run you have more stamina.

Yes if you focus on max shield strength over regen-rate then you may have a point, although that may still be better in a PvP situation.

[EDIT - oops, resist not max strength does matter - although it tops out at 75% so having a bank of strength and good regen are still key when surrounded by 3 or more hostile ships]
 
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timbero

timbero
Gunnet said:
I always enjoy rolling thermal resist shields. As you say, they have a really nice set of potential secondaries. They seem pretty generous with good rolls too.

Only this evening I did a batch of rolls on some class 8 bi-weaves. I'm not at my ED PC to get a screenshot, but for memory the roll I decided to stick with was actually pretty similar to yours. I had been planning on getting a regen speed secondary, but that combination of optimal hull mass and optimal strength was just too tempting.
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I too wanted increased regen speed, however the ones that got that as secondary also got poor resistances.

I didn't want to sacrifice too much kinetic resistance for thermal resistance (I find them equally important), so this was the best compromise I got. That + another 400 MJ was too tempting to say no to.

It is possible to get increased regen rate on (resistance + HD) shield boosters too, right?
 
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fruitbat

fruitbat
timbero said:
I too wanted increased regen speed, however the ones that got that as secondary also got poor resistances.

I didn't want to sacrifice too much kinetic resistance for thermal resistance (I find them equally important), so this was the best compromise I got. That + another 400 MJ was too tempting to say no to.

It is possible to get increased regen rate on (resistance + HD) shield boosters too, right?
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Love the increase Rgen rate.

That shield has as near as 50% resists across the board with S boosters,

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Gunnet

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timbero said:
I too wanted increased regen speed, however the ones that got that as secondary also got poor resistances.

I didn't want to sacrifice too much kinetic resistance for thermal resistance (I find them equally important), so this was the best compromise I got. That + another 400 MJ was too tempting to say no to.

It is possible to get increased regen rate on (resistance + HD) shield boosters too, right?
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Same here with the kinetic resistance. One of the reasons I was rerolling my shield in the first place is that I wanted to reduce the bias towards thermal.

I haven't noticed regen rate secondaries on booster rolls. But I admittedly tend to only look at the shield boost or resistances before hitting reroll, so unless regen rate appeared on a keeper I could easily have just missed it.

Also, here are the screenshots for the roll I was talking about in my first reply, since I couldn't post them last night. Total shield strength might be a tad low for a Cutter, but I settled for three HD boosters to save utility slots.

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betc

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thermal 60.30 %
i also have 9 x 4a shield cell banks on my vette. they dont exceed 100% heat so i pop them like candy

Shd 4375.2 (8708.6KI/10410.5TH/12476.5EX)
Mass 520/1040.1/2600T
Mul 100/150/200%
Rgn 1.1/S Bld8M 41S Dst0.6MW
KiR 49.8% ThR 58.0% ExR 64.9%

Out of interest, do people go for regen rate in a vette? surely it doesnt matter at 4.4 or 4.7. it just takes ages right? a balance of resistances and strength and lots of SCBs to keep it up.

@thefruitbat
what armour setup do you have and is it for PvE or PvP? i havent bothered beyond lightweight mod is dont really lose shields. is it worth pumping up the mil grade or mirror? im PvE all the way..
 
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timbero

timbero
betc said:
thermal 60.30 %
i also have 9 x 4a shield cell banks on my vette. they dont exceed 100% heat so i pop them like candy

Shd 4375.2 (8708.6KI/10410.5TH/12476.5EX)
Mass 520/1040.1/2600T
Mul 100/150/200%
Rgn 1.1/S Bld8M 41S Dst0.6MW
KiR 49.8% ThR 58.0% ExR 64.9%

Out of interest, do people go for regen rate in a vette? surely it doesnt matter at 4.4 or 4.7. it just takes ages right? a balance of resistances and strength and lots of SCBs to keep it up.

@thefruitbat
what armour setup do you have and is it for PvE or PvP? i havent bothered beyond lightweight mod is dont really lose shields. is it worth pumping up the mil grade or mirror? im PvE all the way..
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I had Prismatic for a long time on my Corvette, recently changed to Bi-Weave. I lost about half my MJ buffer, but it also made SCBs unnecessary in a conflict zone.

It regens 10-20% in a minute or two, I like it better to be honest. It makes me fly smarter, instead of face tanking like I did with Prismatics.

Two 7A SCBs used to restore 40% of my shield, now two 7A restores close to 100%.

If you watch the Mini video posted above, he talks about the regen times:

https://youtu.be/-2BaSM9aMQc?t=19m48s

It takes 4 minutes 38 seconds to get 50% of the shield regenerated - 4 minutes and 38 seconds go pretty fast if you're buzzing around shooting in a conflict zone.

Another way to look at it is you can afford to take 50% shield damage in 4:38 and your shield will still be at full strength.
 
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fruitbat

fruitbat
betc said:
@thefruitbat
what armour setup do you have and is it for PvE or PvP? i havent bothered beyond lightweight mod is dont really lose shields. is it worth pumping up the mil grade or mirror? im PvE all the way..
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Hi there, won't be near my pc till tomorrow, but that setup is for PvP really. I have never come close to loosing those shields in PvE and it is very rare indeed that I even use a shield cell bank even in CZ's.

For PvE it really isn't worth doing anything for the hull unless you still fly in open.

With that hull setup though, it is easy to do assassination missions, turning your shield off before you engage, just for fun. Has 2 5d module reinforcement modules plus a c5 amfu for continuous repair of them in that build, as well as the hull reinforcement modules.
 

betc

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Just tried 7*beam efficient. Really need a continuous charge shield as there is now no need to restock for ammo. Might try the bio weave.

Can't believe how fun beams are. 2H,1L and 4MC feels about right
 

HeavyGroovez

HeavyGroovez
sb413197 said:
My thermal biweave shields are rolled mainly for the regeneration. A 10 percent regen bonus on a biweave 7 basically means continual pew pew!
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My wingman runs bi weaves on his Vette. I'm running prismatics. Gonna roll me a bi-weave, seems like over a long brawl they are better.
 
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