Better to keep exploits quiet

[terminatahx]

After observing how FD has resorted to punishing players for finding and using exploits, it seems they have shot themselves in the foot. I have never used an exploit, but I think the way these are being addressed is despicable.

If I find any and hear of any, I certainly won't come on to these forums and make it known. And for those that use exploits, it would be to your benefit to be silent as well. Or you'll see your account redacted back to 1,000cr.

thx to FD for providing the proper motivation to find and report bugs/exploits.

 

[CmdrSimonsen]

So far I haven't heard of anyone who found an exploit by accident, reported it (and not abusing the hell out of it) getting reset to 1000 creds.

 

[Ydiss]

Do you believe that abusing a bug for profit but keeping it quiet will keep you safe from punishment?

It'll get ticketed by legitimate players who find the bug but choose not to cheat and exploit to benefit from it.

Reality check needed here.

 

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[FX2K]

You failed to comprehend the posts in the thread you are basing this on.

You even quoted MB saying it takes away what needs to be taken away.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=95488&page=7&p=1488814&viewfull=1#post1488814

What about this post, in that very same thread?

I went to founders to see this exploit, but for a while I thought it was a bluff, actually had to search the webz for it. I only heard about it here on the complaint threads last week! But yes it was real, a bit tedious to do but if you had the time it would provide unlimited cash. FD removed the exact amount from my account, not very much but the exact amount only. I was already well established before I went there and I expected it to be removed in any event. The original OP was reduced to 1000 credits...... He must have started at Founders and gained all cash and hardware from it, that is the only conclusion I can reach.<snip>

Emphasis added by me.

 

[Hethwill_Khan]

As the makers of the software they know exactly how to root out the exploit and remove assets from abusers. As it was shown this week.

Plus for every 1 silent exploiter you have 1 conscious player that will report the bug that gives way to the bug.

Stop being a mule backside OP.

 

[Sparkie]

After observing how FD has resorted to punishing players for finding and using exploits

This undermines your entire argument. It is very different to finding and reporting. If someone wants to find and keep using, they only have themselves to blame.

 

[Toscaner]

After observing how FD has resorted to punishing players for finding and using exploits, it seems they have shot themselves in the foot. I have never used an exploit, but I think the way these are being addressed is despicable.

If I find any and hear of any, I certainly won't come on to these forums and make it known. And for those that use exploits, it would be to your benefit to be silent as well. Or you'll see your account redacted back to 1,000cr.

thx to FD for providing the proper motivation to find and report bugs/exploits.

this makes no sense. why would anybody who finds an exploit continue to use it and cheat?

 

[Continium]

this makes no sense. why would anybody who finds an exploit continue to use it and cheat?

Have you ever met a politician?

 

[Toscaner]

Have you ever met a politician?

hehe. ofc i know that there's cheaters that do it, but they don't report exploits anyway.
but the OP seems to direct this at honest people, that usually wouldn't cheat and tells them to keep quiet about exploits. this makes no sense.

 

[Shintai]

So far I haven't heard of anyone who found an exploit by accident, reported it (and not abusing the hell out of it) getting reset to 1000 creds.

^^ This.

Plenty of motivation to find exploits. No different than it was before. People abusing exploits never report it anyway.

Seems the OP got what he deserved and does the usual whinedance on the forum.

 

[Drathmar]

After observing how FD has resorted to punishing players for finding and using exploits, it seems they have shot themselves in the foot. I have never used an exploit, but I think the way these are being addressed is despicable.

If I find any and hear of any, I certainly won't come on to these forums and make it known. And for those that use exploits, it would be to your benefit to be silent as well. Or you'll see your account redacted back to 1,000cr.

thx to FD for providing the proper motivation to find and report bugs/exploits.

So because Frontier are reducing you back to 1000cr (which they are not they are taking away what they deem was gained through exploiting), they are being to harsh, when most other online games would BAN you for using an exploit?

 

[Jay8ch]

Why would anyone ever use an exploit, let alone complain when their ill gotten gains are removed? Do these people just fast forward to the end of movies because they can exploit the fast forward feature to find out what happened quicker? I'm continually flabbergasted as to why you'd want to ruin your own gaming experience.

 

[Dabba]

Let's make this simple.

Find exploit, see if you can replicate it, once, maybe twice. If so then report it, be specific about what you did, ask them to remove the gains. -GOOD

Find exploit, replicate it over and over again until you are extremely wealthy, tell your friends about it so they do the same, then make a vague brag post on the forums about it. -BAD

 

[nariquo]

i will report every exploit i see and here of.
just because i dont like you litte exploiter kids and like it when you get punished

 

[Erik Marcaigh]

During Alpha and Beta testing, many exploits were found and ticketed. We also played with them too. During Beta, I figured it would be my one chance to actually have 1 billion credits in my game account at any particular time, so I made a short video (hidden to everyone except FDev and me) of how to do the exploit, submitted the ticket, then spent 45 minutes hitting the 1 billion mark just so I could get a screenshot. I knew it would be wiped anyway, either immediately or come the next big update.

So I'll always have my screenshot.

Spoiler

At the time, the extra cash allowed me to test other things, like the bigger guns in the bigger ships, and gave us plenty of cash so we could do some good for the community, such as the Weapons Damage Charts (which required a lot of shooting, repairing, and shooting, and buying different hulls, and guns... lots of credits spent.)
Beta thread with Weapon Damage and Hull Strength charts: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=35234&highlight=

But now, with the game actually released, I wouldn't pull something like that. If I found an exploit, I'd record it and send it in with a ticket and keep quiet. You tell one person, and they tell someone and pretty soon a lot of the server population is doing it and FDev eithers spends way too much time rolling certain people back, or they just roll everyone back. Why even get there? If they spend less time babysitting us, then they have more time to roll out new content.

And I wanna see and play with all the new content coming...

 

[Ralph Vargr]

Have you ever met a politician?

Yes, including two Presidents.

 

[Flappers]

wait wait wait...

So what you are saying is, if you find an exploit, rather than report it, you'd rather abuse it for your own profit because they punish players that do?

That is so ridiculously childish.

 

[Ethurian]

As has been said, there's a big difference between finding an exploit and reporting them, and abusing an exploit (even if you report it too).

 

[AJ_Impy]

Hell no. Always ticket exploits, potential exploits, vaguely dodgy things, anything along those lines. We want this game to be the best it can be, and for that loopholes need to be hunted down and closed permanently. I give absolutely zero expletive deleteds with regards losing the credits accrued in documenting the exploit, because I didn't earn them to begin with. The same is true of everyone to benefit from such things, regardless if they saw it as a path to easy riches or as a problem to report.

I would comport myself in the same manner if I found another exploit: Ticket it first, document the process thoroughly, then say nothing until it has been resolved or otherwise revealed. Failing to report such things I the absolute last thing this game needs.