Beyond 3.0 - C&P and Wing missions

Because you are a bit obsessed with specific goal. Why all missions? Why just not let them go trough mission list and try to figure out what might work and might not? Why not let's say easier to share information - not just missions - between players so wing would see what's going on?

I understand passion but it feels you almost want to dictate how Adam should approach this. It is Adam and his teammates who does this, not you or me. They have their own reasonings and we can only suggest. Don't be overbearing. I am overbearing and I hate that thing in myself and when I see it - it is just not right.

Let's concentrate on giving good ideas what wing missions could look like, and of course testing. Let's them time to breathe and figure out.

He is voicing his opinion which is perfectly fine. There maybe technical issues involved too. But we do not know this.
 
He is voicing his opinion which is perfectly fine. There maybe technical issues involved too. But we do not know this.

Hey, I have nothing against that. It just feels to me that every time people go in demand and dictate mode, I can sense devs just closing their forum tabs more frequently than usual.

Anyway, I got carried away. Cooling down.
 
Hey, I have nothing against that. It just feels to me that every time people go in demand and dictate mode, I can sense devs just closing their forum tabs more frequently than usual.

Anyway, I got carried away. Cooling down.

Nobody is making demands. We are making suggestions and/or requests and spelling out why it might be a good idea to follow through on them.
 
Nobody is making demands. We are making suggestions and/or requests and spelling out why it might be a good idea to follow through on them.

Requests are demands. I understand that some part of it is passion and it is nice to see it. It feels just too much, especially considering there's good reasons why devs follow their own plan.
 
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Only a Sith deals in absolutes. :cool:

I am Grey Jedi :cool:

Sorry Mengy, I am not against your passion, really. I just hate seeing people going in circles demanding something again I guess :)

But that's nature of forums. I just get triggered by it.

I personally want to see more careful, evolutionary approach. I understand worries that if there's not enough uptake and if wing missions aren't 'good enough' they might not be popular. But I don't believe that's the way FD evaluates things. Yes, there are some things that feel like abandoned, but missions have always been improved, and I don't think Wing missions will be left to rot. Too much interest, too much passion around them, too much excitement.

I personally have always been for better tools for Wings to deal with missions that each commander has along with good old credit transfer for players to make dues for helping each other. Not fan of having two separate ways of doing things. However how we get there with unified vision most likely won't be one shot approach.
 
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Personally, it sounds to me like over-entitled multi-players never being satisfied with what they get given, & worse still try to impugn the developers when they don't get everything handed to them on a plate.
 
Personally, it sounds to me like over-entitled multi-players never being satisfied with what they get given, & worse still try to impugn the developers when they don't get everything handed to them on a plate.

You know players who act the same way about wanting tougher NPCs despite not ranking themselves up, why would you expect others to behave differently?

Hope for the best, plan for the worst. Be grateful your particular feature of choice gets any attention at all :)
 
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Personally, it sounds to me like over-entitled multi-players never being satisfied with what they get given, & worse still try to impugn the developers when they don't get everything handed to them on a plate.

How does "That's really nice! This update looks brilliant! Can we have more of that?" even faintly comparable to "FDEV USELESS LAZY SLACKERS NO ENDGAME PVP GOODNESS NO BASES NO ELITE FEET GAME STUPID AND DYING EVERYONE GOING TO LEAVE WHEN STAR CITIZEN COMES OUT YOU ALL LOSERS AND UGLY P.S. READ MY FAKE-THESIS LIKE PROPOSAL <link>HERE COS YOU CLEARLY CAN'T DESIGN GAMES AND I KNOW BEST"
 
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