Beyond is great but please let the next updates focus on combat and PvP

AP Birdman

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I feel like all my brothers and sisters just got shiny new bikes and toys for Christmas and I'm still stuck playing with the same Lego set that's missing a bunch of pieces.
Beyond has been great for many people, no doubt, but combat missions still suck, PvP is mostly pointless, time to kill is way too high in fully engineered ships, and there are many weapons that are almost pointless for PvP.

At the very least, I'd love to see better rewards and payouts for combat missions. There's no reason why wing assassination missions and massacre missions need to be such low reward per effort missions considering the risk.

I don't like running cargo, I don't like mining, I don't like exploration and I don't see why I can't earn as much as everyone else doing what I enjoy most in the game and I know I'm not the only person who feels this way.
I lost many, many of my pve friends after Fdev nerfed the payouts for wing assassination missions in 3.0.

Also, why is there still no challenging pve for a full wing of players in fully engineered Corvettes? I understand that there needs to be easier missions for new players with little to no engineering but why does it have to be either/or? Why can't there be easy missions for new players and hard missions for a full wing of experienced players in fully engineered ships?

PvP on the other hand is a tough cookie and I don't even know where to begin with it.

I think it would at least be a start if Fdev made an official PvP system where rebuys we're waved crimes we're turned off. Fdev could also make it so that killing another player could reward you with credits or something. I don't know ow but something really needs to be done with PvP in this game.

I'm not even gonna mention "open only power play" because even if Fdev did this, I don't see players even using it anyways.

So please Fdev, I'm begging you, please work on combat and PvP next. Pretty, pretty please with sugar on top. Please don't just leave us out to dry.
 
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AP Birdman

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Dommarraa said:
If you really think combat has had no love, you are not loading the game. The list of combat developments is huge, even in 3.3
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I didn't say that. I just hope combat and pvp gets as much of an upgrade next year as exploration and mining just got.

And no matter how you try to spin it, combat mission rewards just suck, plain and simple, especially for wings.
 

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead

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When mining pays more than combat, something has gone horribly wrong... Lol

Combat missions could do with a buff, as could CZ payouts.
I'm not sure how AX payouts are since 3.3, but they were pretty poor in 3.2.
Especially seems as I never actually killed anything other than scouts before running out of ammo. Lol
 

AP Birdman

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metatheurgist said:
Actually, I'd say that mining just about caught up to combat now. But both are still far behind trading and passengers.
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Id say that's being a little too generous and PvP is completely pointless and has zero payouts right now if you consider it combat, which I do.
 

Trollymctrollerson

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If they could just do something about the absurd time to kill an engineered ship it would go a long ways. PVP feels like every one has a pea shooter the way resistance stacking is. Anyone who does pvp knows this. Every duel is a battle of attrition. I'm losing interest in pvp because it's just a flying in circles pounding away at flying tanks. If ww2 dogfights were the goal here, it's a massive fail. What we have is flying ww2 panzers armed with grease guns.
 

AP Birdman

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JesusRocks1988 said:
Hahahahahahahahaha

Oh, you're serious?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Come on OP, every update since the game launched has had a heavy combat focus. Move over and give some other professions a turn.
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So what? Every update needs to be exploration and mining?
I literally have nothing to do in the game right now except shoot at the same players I've been shooting at and players that rage when I blow them up in their exploration ships, and a bunch of terrible combat missions that are literally not even worth doing.

Thanks for adding your ignorance to the conversation.

Give me one example of a worth while combat or pvp uprade that have been added to the game this year. Name ONE!

BTW, if the next update is combat focused I'm gonna laugh in your face.
 
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AP Birdman

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Eidolon said:
I think PvP has had enough love in this game for this lifetime.

We need moar PvE stuff like in Beyond season! Keep it going please FD.
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Just because you don't take part in pvp doesn't mean there isn't a large pvp community that is begging for more to be added to the game for them.

Also, if you ever want open to be less hostile, you're gonna need to give the pvpers something to do.
 

DukeIronHand

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Since PvP is essentially worthless and non-consequential to the game as a whole, seems it’s got plenty of attention.
If you have an idea to make PvP, at least pretend to contribute to the game in a meaningful way, I suggest we start there first.
 
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Dillon Fallon

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How many combat focused ships have been released this year? Also, I'd have thought that a wing of fully engineered Corvettes *should* be unstoppable.

Is it worth going hunting for capital ships?
 

Kellan Fell

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PC, since Premium Beta (was originally on Mac), and have watched the game become more and more combat centric over the years. Mining and exploration have had one (count them ONE) update in the best part of 5 years, meanwhile combat has had Multicrew, engineering, thargoids, guardians, wings, squadrons, powerplay, ship launched fighters... Need I go on?
 

AP Birdman

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DukeIronHand said:
Since PvP is essentially worthless and non-consequential to the game as a whole, seems it’s got plenty of attention.
If you have an idea to make PvP, at least pretend to contribute to the game in a meaningful way, I suggest we start there first.
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I do have an idea for PvP, did you not read what I wrote?
 
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