BGS is broken, wars not resolving properly, has link to issue in issue tracker

keelerad

keelerad
We are currently prepping for war with the same faction we triumphed over yesterday, for the same system HIP 12067 and the same station Vaucanson Gateway, that we were awarded for winning the war yesterday

Also after our triumph in HIP 12067, our influence dropped to below that of the faction we defeated in the war, hence the war being re-fought

See the issue tracker here to add any further systems where you have seen any similar bad BGS behaviour

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/35912 you can up vote this one


Don't you just love it when an update that those of us on PS4 can't even play yet breaks our game without giving us any additional gameplay at all :-(
 
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Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
I'm hoping - saw a case of it out here and confirmed your bug - that this is fixed in "A fix has been implemented whereby Odyssey settlements were not always changing owner after each day's conflicts" from this morning's patch.

Of course, neither your example nor mine is about an Odyssey settlement, so...
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
There is still a big lag between the Tick and the results of the Tick being transmitted to the clients.
Yesterday we had systems that took 6 hours to update. Doesnt look that bad today, but we still have zero change in a few systems (as of 20 mins ago)
 

Daiyousei7

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Dommarraa said:
There is still a big lag between the Tick and the results of the Tick being transmitted to the clients.
Yesterday we had systems that took 6 hours to update. Doesnt look that bad today, but we still have zero change in a few systems (as of 20 mins ago)
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There are systems that I've been watching that have taken up to 27 hours to register changes, with many taking as long as 21 hours. This ends up looking like a double tick in some cases. I don't know why it's happening.
 

keelerad

keelerad
Happened to us again , have voted for 35912 on issue tracker

It would be nice if they made some sort of acknowledgement that they have a problem and that they are looking at it, as at the moment there is very little point to doing anything BGS related
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goemon

goemon
keelerad said:
Happened to us again , have voted for 35912 on issue tracker

It would be nice if they made some sort of acknowledgement that they have a problem and that they are looking at it, as at the moment there is very little point to doing anything BGS related
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if i see this correctly (you screenshot in system map):
  • IPX wins station and system according to station reports.
  • Station and system do not change ownership.
  • IPX ends a bit below controlling faction as if after a draw (?).

how much was the influence difference directly after war has ended?
 

keelerad

keelerad
While the war was going on we were both on 32.8%

When the war finished with us having a Total victory (with them not having dominated any day) we went down 0.5% to 32.3% they went up 0.8% to 33.6% as shown in Inara https://inara.cz/starsystem/8907/ and they are still in control of the station and the system that the game stated they had lost
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Chaz C

Chaz C
keelerad said:
While the war was going on we were both on 32.8%

When the war finished with us having a Total victory (with them not having dominated any day) we went down 0.5% to 32.3% they went up 0.8% to 33.6% as shown in Inara https://inara.cz/starsystem/8907/ and they are still in control of the station and the system that the game stated they had lost
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At least you didn't get the complete % INF shift of the conflict resolution reversed as we did. Won 4-0 and not only did the station & system not transfer, the 'losers' gained 4% and our faction lost 4%! We're giving it another go but I'm quite suspecting the same outcome tbh. On a semi-related note (not wanting to derail the thread) I feel really sorry for the anarchy factions too. What a shambles Odyssey has made of the BGS.
 

keelerad

keelerad
One of my Faction wingmates decided to go watch some Telly rather than play Elite last night, such was his despondency with the BGS after a second week of effort in CZ's (hours each day) for no effect.

I don't think Frontier understand the effect of breaking the BGS has on the player groups that are invested in it (which tend to be veteran players rather than noobs)

Ah well we saw it before with the Fleet Carrier update, after a couple of weeks the BGS stabilised again and was worth investing the effort in, here's hoping they work out what they are breaking each time before the next major update
 

Dommarraa

Dommarraa
AFAIK they have not even acknowledged the BGS being laggy (12+ hours from tick to seing any Inf changes), or inconsistent (station news says 1 thing, other sources say another), or the double ticks, or anything other than the Conflict issue.
 

keelerad

keelerad
OK issue https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/35912 now is at status fixed.

What does this mean, have they awarded the system to the Flying Hussars that they raised the issue about or are they saying that if you fight again you'll get the system this time ?

What about all the other players that also reported that their faction had won wars and not been awarded the system ?

I have checked HIP 12067 where since the Odyssey release we have beaten HIP 12067 League in 2 wars and both times been told we had won the sytem and then it not being transferred and its still showing as owned by HIP 12067 League after the update

I can't see any mention of this fix in the patch note relating to Horizons

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Unless it's in the "stability improvements" ? Bloody no information in that !

What I want to know is if we spend a load of time doing BGS work in HIP12067 to catch back up the 18% gap that was stolen from us, to trigger a new war, then fight for 5 days and win, will we actually get awarded the system this time ?

My original bug raised a week ago hasn't even got to confirmed yet

 
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keelerad

keelerad
Good spot didn't bother reading the Oyseey section as expected it to cover Odyssey and we aren't getting that on PS4 for a whiles yet !

Here's hoping that it does apply to us on PS4 as well, as we share the BGS I'd hope so
 

Pircs

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So far this has no longer been an issue since the last update as well. Now to have all those conflicts over again I guess. I don't believe Frontier will backtrack any mussed results.
 
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