BGS works on private group and solo play?
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Robert Maynard
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By taking BGS actions. If you are trying to win a BGS battle via PVP you're doing it wrong and you will lose.
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This is the BGS Subforum.
the PVP forum is here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forumdisplay.php/218-PvP
Discussion on modes here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forumdisplay.php/223-Modes
it is not just solo vs open. But also PC vs PS4. We all share the same galaxy but you will never see them!
or it is like me and i am 12 hours out in New Zealand. I play in open but you will NEVER see me as you are asleep or at work...
Ok mabye can't defend. Different time is problem but i like have options. Can try def this, kill enemy cmdr. This more interesting for me. BTW have 2 acconts (pc/ps4) 
and 2000 hours. Want new things, I thought BGS is super thing unfortunately this mistake.. Want help one small fraction but widmo cmdrs I don't want to give me one space station .. I need to reduce the playing time and do not buy new skins So much bugs and stupid system bgs. I will not support this
and 2000 hours. Want new things, I thought BGS is super thing unfortunately this mistake.. Want help one small fraction but widmo cmdrs I don't want to give me one space station .. I need to reduce the playing time and do not buy new skins So much bugs and stupid system bgs. I will not support this
Most PvP actions actually hurt your faction, rather than help them.
Example: Suppose you are fighting to protect the ruling faction. You see another player in Open who (you assume) is working against you. So you kill them. But that player was "Clean" (sine most BGS activity doesn't actually require you to do criminal acts); as far as the BGS is concerned, you've just killed an innocent Clean ship, so your ruling faction gets punished with decreased Influence, decreased Security and decreased Happiness.
The only way to "defend your faction" is via the BGS, just like they are doing. And if they have more players than you (or more available time to play than you do), then you will lose, unless you know how to manipulate the BGS better than they do. And right now, no-one really "knows how to manipulate the BGS", because everything has changed with 3.3 and we're still trying to work out the new rules.
Example: Suppose you are fighting to protect the ruling faction. You see another player in Open who (you assume) is working against you. So you kill them. But that player was "Clean" (sine most BGS activity doesn't actually require you to do criminal acts); as far as the BGS is concerned, you've just killed an innocent Clean ship, so your ruling faction gets punished with decreased Influence, decreased Security and decreased Happiness.
The only way to "defend your faction" is via the BGS, just like they are doing. And if they have more players than you (or more available time to play than you do), then you will lose, unless you know how to manipulate the BGS better than they do. And right now, no-one really "knows how to manipulate the BGS", because everything has changed with 3.3 and we're still trying to work out the new rules.
Ok some player kill my fraction mobs on solo - can't find this cmdr. Some selling on black market, can't skan him .. Idk, players they are afraid real dangerous in this game? Pve pve pve, simulator little no. I do not say delete solo play, i say bgs it should work only on open play. It would be more interesting, real convoys, real wars on si fi game. Okey can recruit more people but probably bgs now is big pve, who have more farmes on solo - win sector.
It's not what I'm looking for.
It's not what I'm looking for.
The BGS is a PvE game mode that is ideal for groups.
You have to play it right to get results.
Plus you need to know what works and what doesn't. At the moment e. G. Exploration is bugged, some missions appear to be bugged, and some things don't work during various states (Trade doesn't work during Civil War or War, Bounty Hunting doesn't work during elections).
You need to play the game as it works, not as you imagine how it should work. Otherwise you will have only frustration and stop playing the BGS pretty soon.
Ideally you try out how it works in a low traffic system on the border of the bubble.
The Open Only discussion is boring and usually started by players who think the background simulation is something different than it is, like some kind of PvP or GvG direct conflict. If you want to play BGS against someone, you need to do more and better BGS actions than the other people. That's all.
You have to play it right to get results.
Plus you need to know what works and what doesn't. At the moment e. G. Exploration is bugged, some missions appear to be bugged, and some things don't work during various states (Trade doesn't work during Civil War or War, Bounty Hunting doesn't work during elections).
You need to play the game as it works, not as you imagine how it should work. Otherwise you will have only frustration and stop playing the BGS pretty soon.
Ideally you try out how it works in a low traffic system on the border of the bubble.
The Open Only discussion is boring and usually started by players who think the background simulation is something different than it is, like some kind of PvP or GvG direct conflict. If you want to play BGS against someone, you need to do more and better BGS actions than the other people. That's all.
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My BGS is ending, this another boring pve. My friends they also think so. Power play the same. Now take mision on the occasion, when pay good. Still waitng for big change or new game. Now elite for me only shooter. Love this game but interaction with players is very bad. Meet only grifers on the spots, new players or occasion honor pvp. New skuardons is only exel with statistics, how many players make misions for friendly fraction and nothing more. Nothing new, erly can you check this on inara, now can check this on this game yey ! :C :C :C
As original MEMBER and Scientific Research Officer of The Black Fleet. I would like to ask WHO you are DonPewsky? Known Cmdrs as such FluffyBunnykins attempted to create The Black Fleet squadron but has since been taken by you... I would like to ask why you have done this?... The founder of The Black Fleet is indeed CMDR LYNK this is well known... He has created a staple. So I am confused as other Members of the REAL Black Fleet have attempted to join the squadron you have started and yet non of them have been successful at joining the group... If you are doing this to be an Imposter of The Black Fleet it will be known as such.
The purpose of the BGS is to simulate events happening in the background of the galaxy, to ensure that it isn't static. That is it's sole purpose. It does this by examining all player actions across all modes and all platforms. In this way, a player could visit a system months later, and find that since they last visited, stations have changed hands, the system is now "independent" when it was once part of the Evil Galactic Federation, and there is now a civil war happening, when all was peaceful before.
The fact that some players manipulate the BGS as a proxy for territorial control does not obviate its actual purpose. The fact that some players manipulate the BGS to influence Powerplay also does not obviate its actual purpose. The fact that some players manipulate the BGS as a proxy for espionage gameplay, to create gold rushes and rank hot spots, criminal gameplay, or any of the other myriad ways players use to BGS to enhance their Elite experience does not obviate the actual purpose of the BGS either.
BGS manipulation, for whatever purpose, is a classic example of genuine emergent gameplay: players using a mechanism in the game for purposes other than what the developer created them for. I think it's fantastic that Frontier has embraced this alternate use of the BGS, but it still doesn't obviate it's actual purpose: to ensure that the galaxy changes over time, as opposed to being a static background, where nothing ever changes.
In addition, the way the BGS works, "defending" a controlling faction via PvP is functionally identical to attacking a faction controlling faction via PvP. If you go around blowing up random commanders in "your" system, you'll be hurting the controlling faction by costing them influence, security, and happiness. If a commander is in "your" system explicitly for the purpose of attacking the controlling faction, if they play in Open and know what they're doing, any incoming missions will be missions intended to drive the controlling faction into negative states, using their outgoing missions to nullify any resulting influence gain. Using PvP to "defend" the controlling faction against a deliberate BGS attack is a bit of a "heads I win, tails you lose worse," situation. And if that commander isn't in the system to attack the controlling faction, if you've done your job right, they'll be running missions for that faction anyways. If they aren't, then you've failed at BGS manipulation.
Finally, there is no guarantee that anyone you'll be "defending" against is going to be playing on the same platform as you, let alone at the same time as you, even if they were playing in Open. Combine that with how instancing "works" in this game, if you're trying to use PvP to "defend" a controlling faction, you need enough players spread across all timezones, times, and platforms, just to have the hope to intercept one player. If you have that much of a numerical advantage, both in the number of players and in time to play the game, "defending" a controlling faction via the BGS should not be a problem, irregardless of what mode they play in.
Hello From the (REAL) The Black Fleet
IM still confused as to who this DonPewsky Guy is... He is not part of The Black Fleet group that consisted of CMDR Lynk, Myself, Ace, Fluffybunnykins, Wolfkrab, and many others... DonPewsky appears to have taken our name made a squadron and is now asking about how the BGS works... IF he really were a true member of the Black Fleet as I am, he should know how the BGS system works... I am waiting for him to contact me as to what his purpose of taking our name is... The Real Black Fleet members are the ones responsible for removing an entire Faction group out of the game completely where FDevs had to physically change the game and reestablish that factions occupancy by introducing a megaship and a new state called EXILED... I myself am the one responsible for that along with many others that I have mentioned. I don't know who this DonPewsky guy is... I await his response still.
CMDR DANTEN S.R.O The Black Fleet.
IM still confused as to who this DonPewsky Guy is... He is not part of The Black Fleet group that consisted of CMDR Lynk, Myself, Ace, Fluffybunnykins, Wolfkrab, and many others... DonPewsky appears to have taken our name made a squadron and is now asking about how the BGS works... IF he really were a true member of the Black Fleet as I am, he should know how the BGS system works... I am waiting for him to contact me as to what his purpose of taking our name is... The Real Black Fleet members are the ones responsible for removing an entire Faction group out of the game completely where FDevs had to physically change the game and reestablish that factions occupancy by introducing a megaship and a new state called EXILED... I myself am the one responsible for that along with many others that I have mentioned. I don't know who this DonPewsky guy is... I await his response still.
CMDR DANTEN S.R.O The Black Fleet.
If you want a territorial game that is focused on PvP then ED is not that game. Even powerplay which people proclaim to be designed for PvP utterly fails at this, its also a PvE game.
Have you looked into EvE? I think that will be right up your alley.
Erm, sorry, you're not being clear. Those two phrases are mutually exclusive.
You might have better luck communicating your ideas and discussing in your native language. Does FD not have a sub-forum for your language?