Big stutterfest.
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Yes, though I don't think you can play with a license you purchased through Steam without Steam, nor convert that license to a Frontier Store one. I've never played it via Steam so I'm not 100% sure.
There is a bug, introduced with Ascendancy in December, that causes stuttering at specific times past the hour. The stuttering lasts for ~5 seconds.
I get them at 05, 15 and 25 minutes past the hour, with the 05 and 15 minute stutters being the most severe. I occasionally also get light stuttering at 55.
To the best of my understanding, this is not related to Steam. If you're sure the stuttering is related to Steam, then I'd suggest turning off the Steam overlay initially, and disable its game recording service.
Are you playing on Windows?
With regard to Steam and the launcher, if you purchased the game through Steam before 2019 (August, I think), then you can log into the launcher with the account details you registered with and launch the game independent of Steam. If you bought it afterwards, then you're out of luck. Once the game is launched, you could always close Steam - it should still work. You could write that into a script that closes Steam automatically after a certain amount of time, or that checks if the game is running and closes Steam if it is.
I get them at 05, 15 and 25 minutes past the hour, with the 05 and 15 minute stutters being the most severe. I occasionally also get light stuttering at 55.
To the best of my understanding, this is not related to Steam. If you're sure the stuttering is related to Steam, then I'd suggest turning off the Steam overlay initially, and disable its game recording service.
Are you playing on Windows?
With regard to Steam and the launcher, if you purchased the game through Steam before 2019 (August, I think), then you can log into the launcher with the account details you registered with and launch the game independent of Steam. If you bought it afterwards, then you're out of luck. Once the game is launched, you could always close Steam - it should still work. You could write that into a script that closes Steam automatically after a certain amount of time, or that checks if the game is running and closes Steam if it is.
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Not the stuttering you experience. Starts from the gitgo, even the little loading wheels stutter.
I really don't know if it's Steam or not to be truthful, I'm just suspicious of the need for each portal to come up. Well, 2, Steam's and then Frontier's, being linked seems to have made an extra step in the process. I've verified files through Steam, but the Frontier portal only allows me, when I try to toggle the verify folder button, to Update to Trailblazers. I think it's been updated 2 and still I can't get to the verify button.
And yes I run Win. 11 and yes I've lost use of my G2.
I did try to run the game as you described, same outcome.
I put a ticket in and they were kind enough to send me an email which read as a portent of doooooom. Many campers might not be happy.
I really don't know if it's Steam or not to be truthful, I'm just suspicious of the need for each portal to come up. Well, 2, Steam's and then Frontier's, being linked seems to have made an extra step in the process. I've verified files through Steam, but the Frontier portal only allows me, when I try to toggle the verify folder button, to Update to Trailblazers. I think it's been updated 2 and still I can't get to the verify button.
And yes I run Win. 11 and yes I've lost use of my G2.
I did try to run the game as you described, same outcome.
I put a ticket in and they were kind enough to send me an email which read as a portent of doooooom. Many campers might not be happy.
What's your setup? I'm on a PC that is really not too powerful and my gameplay is smooth as butter on max settings. Have you tried updating your driver? I'm on AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS, 32Gb RAM with a 780M, Windows 11 Pro (I allocated 8Gb to video). Perhaps there may be a background service running you're not aware of? I know some antivirus' are hogs when it comes to resources.
They've had a couple of big releases in the last three months. I'm not surprised the support team are snowed under.Not the stuttering you experience. Starts from the gitgo, even the little loading wheels stutter.
I really don't know if it's Steam or not to be truthful, I'm just suspicious of the need for each portal to come up. Well, 2, Steam's and then Frontier's, being linked seems to have made an extra step in the process. I've verified files through Steam, but the Frontier portal only allows me, when I try to toggle the verify folder button, to Update to Trailblazers. I think it's been updated 2 and still I can't get to the verify button.
And yes I run Win. 11 and yes I've lost use of my G2.
I did try to run the game as you described, same outcome.
I put a ticket in and they were kind enough to send me an email which read as a portent of doooooom. Many campers might not be happy.
Have you tried shutting Steam down once the game is running?
The PC I'm using has been in use for a few years now and this is new for this game. Nothing has changed since last I was in the game, my card is a 4060TI and the rest is well within the parameters of the game requirements. The only change are those that MS shovels my way, to include the crap I don't want, (co-pilot, their gaming garbage, etc, etc.). I try to stay ahead of these wonderful crap ideas of MS by deleting them as much as possible, as quick as possible. But you know... Some say I should just revert back to Win 10, but I did that once already and it's a pain in the glutenous maximus. I returned to 11 after I heard that they're going to charge $30.00 (a year?) to keep copies of Win. 10 up to date. If there's money to make they'll find it.
What is that Trailblazer update? The one that I can't download, even though the game declares it installed after each attempt.
Not sure I can shut Steam down after starting, I did something stupid, (speaking in hindsight) I bought the first edition through Frontier and the second through Steam. I think I should have stayed in one lane.
What is that Trailblazer update? The one that I can't download, even though the game declares it installed after each attempt.
Not sure I can shut Steam down after starting, I did something stupid, (speaking in hindsight) I bought the first edition through Frontier and the second through Steam. I think I should have stayed in one lane.
If Steam says you're up-to-date, then you have Trailblazer. It's not a new DLC, just the current version of the game. Check your file details, do they look like this?
Product version should be 4.1.0.1 and file date should be the 6th.
If Steam really isn't letting you "get" this version, perhaps you need to remove and reinstall, or at least verify file integrity.
And, yes - Windows 10 is very old at this point, and Microsoft has chosen to end-of-life it. So your choices are, pay a yearly fee, upgrade to Win11, or switch to something like Linux.
I've verified Steam's files ad nauseam, I've tried to verify Frontier's files but as I said it only let's me update to Traiblazers, I've uninstalled/reinstalled, I've hopped on one foot and recited the oath of enlistment. Nada.
I will say my version of the exe is different from yours but that might be because I can't start the game w/out going through Steam. I don't know if your version is stand alone but I'm guessing it is? In essence mine is Steam's exe. If I try to shut down Steam while the game is running it shuts the game down. I don't really know what benefit linking Horizon (bought in the Frontier store) with Odyssey (bought through Steam) got me. Maybe it was the only way I could play in VR with the G2, but now Steam VR is a waste of space, so that's moot.
I will say my version of the exe is different from yours but that might be because I can't start the game w/out going through Steam. I don't know if your version is stand alone but I'm guessing it is? In essence mine is Steam's exe. If I try to shut down Steam while the game is running it shuts the game down. I don't really know what benefit linking Horizon (bought in the Frontier store) with Odyssey (bought through Steam) got me. Maybe it was the only way I could play in VR with the G2, but now Steam VR is a waste of space, so that's moot.
That's the file for your launcher - EDLaunch
Drop into the Products\elite-dangerous-odyssey-64 folder, and check EliteDangerous64.exe
My install is identical to yours - got Horizon from Frontier (migrated from console) and purchased Odyssey on Steam.
Drop into the Products\elite-dangerous-odyssey-64 folder, and check EliteDangerous64.exe
My install is identical to yours - got Horizon from Frontier (migrated from console) and purchased Odyssey on Steam.
Use that option, inside Steam, by right-clicking on the Elite tile, or the game name in your left-hand menu.
What you're looking at are your configs and whatnot.
Where I have my game installed is here, but will be under "whatever folder Steam uses."
C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Elite Dangerous\Products\elite-dangerous-odyssey-64
But really - are you able to launch the game at all? Then you are up-to-date. If you are getting stuttering, particularly every five minutes, starting at five-after-the-hour
05, :10, :15, etc.) this is sadly expected behavior. I'm running an RTX 4070 and encounter the same - it's fairly well documented here on the forums, for at least the past 3 patches. Whether it's actually a game-side issue or not, is not something I could answer -- usually this is a server lag, but could be FDev added some extra "checking" at certain intervals. So, if you see a hitch, see if the game clock is listing something "ending in 5" and that's likely what you are seeing.EDIT - by which I mean, you were in the right location before. Steam launches "EDLaunch" - and EDLaunch runs the actual game. You just need to dig 2 levels down from the initial Steam folder.
Well, a big thanks to all who participated in this weeks episode of "FIND THE BUG" in which our contestants are given the description of bug, they ID it, lead the gardener to it's location, and suggest a bugacide(?) {brain fart} that he may eradicate it. This week's attaboy goes to Moltar1138 who ID the bug and gave the correct poison for it. Although the whole plant was lost in the process, BUT, the bug is dead none the less. Cudo's to all for their input, we can learn from it all.
I had deleted the game before Moltar had suggested it but only on the Steam side, after my last post I went in and deleted it off my HD. So the true culprit's ID was erased with the game, will have to remain a mystery. Don't know, but maybe running SRV survey had something to do with it. Again thanks for all who contributed.
I had deleted the game before Moltar had suggested it but only on the Steam side, after my last post I went in and deleted it off my HD. So the true culprit's ID was erased with the game, will have to remain a mystery. Don't know, but maybe running SRV survey had something to do with it. Again thanks for all who contributed.
This is exactly the behaviour I am experiencing. Playing on Windows10, not on Steam. Not sure yet about the timing though but I will keep track from now:
Stuttering for about 5 seconds, framedrops from 60fps to 30~40fps during this time.
@the100thmonkey Is there any more information about this?
Wait. Are you saying you bought Odyssey through Steam after buying the regular game through F-Dev? And it's working (well I mean not including the whole stuttering issue you've had going)?
I mean... Yes? I migrated from console, which gave me an FDev license - and then I had it generate a Steam key for me. I got Odyssey from Steam because it was on sale for about half the price of direct from FDev store.
So... Yeah?
Other than telling the Odyssey installer where the files are (since it wasn't installed through Steam), is there anything special I'd need to do to get it to work? I'm asking because I've been under the impression that since I didn't buy the base game on Steam the Steam installer wouldn't work when I went to install the DLC.
Ah, so you are going about it the wrong way. You need a Steam key generated, which you can do here:
User Information User Information
user.frontierstore.net
Or it's under "Steam Entitlements" - I honestly can't remember now, but Frontier will generate a Steam key for you. Redeem THAT key on Steam, and then you will "own" the game on Steam. At THAT point, you can buy Odyssey and it'll all work. And THEN, if you get yourself a Steam Deck, now you can play Elite on the go!
EDIT - can't leave out, your actual LOGIN won't change. And you may need to do a "linking" step, now that you're on the "Steam" version. On the backend though, it's your same CMDR and everything. All you're changing is where it launches from.
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