Binding a VKB Gladiator NXT to ED

Hooplah

Hooplah
Greetings,

Well with my X-56 HOTAS grey wearing out I replaced it with the NXT keeping the X-56 throttle for now. Having concerns with the USA-China relationships where VKB says they ship from China not to worry as I ordered it on March 12th and received it in the middle of USA on March 19th. You're good to go if you want one as they also provide emails and tracking supporting your purchase.

First I copied my bindings folder so if there are issues I can always plug the X-56 joystick back in. Playing this game way too many years like the muscle memory using a HOTAS I've memorized the bindings and have put in 90 percent of them in 20 minutes. But I'm having a problem not getting my primary fire button to select options in an orbiting station, selecting an item on a menu or even launching a ship. Is there a binding that I missed? What binding did I miss so my fire button won't select options in an orbiting station? Maybe I'll have to look to my old bindings to see what VKB doesn't like.

The NXT Premium is a great joystick smaller than the X-56 with a lot more options a player can dial in. I'll maybe review it later. But I'm having a problem launching my Cutter per the current CG just for fun.

Any help would be appreciated why my primary fire button cannot select menu options. I must be missing something simple.

Regards
 
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Treya

Treya
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I haven't fully set up mine yet so it's more of a theoretical answer, but check the <UI_Select> binding (Interface Mode > UI Panel Select).
 

norlin

norlin
Purchased the Gladiator NXT Premium about a month ago as my first stick ever - awesome device!
Though I don't have an engine controller so using keyboard + stick setup.
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
First impressions it nails roll, pitch and yaw precision that the X-56 series currently charging players $450.00 cannot even get close to its accuracy. Now I'm figuring how to setup all these new hats. It's weird having zero dead zones on roll, pitch and yaw. Let go of the stick, it centers and the ship flies straight ahead.
 
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norlin

norlin
Hooplah said:
First impressions it nails roll, pitch and yaw precision that the X-56 series currently charging players $450.00 cannot even get close to its accuracy. Now I'm figuring how to setup all these new hats...
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BTW I changed hats A1 <-> A3: because the free stick at A1 feels not comfortable with the default hat, while the default A3 feels closer to common gamepad sticks

The overall setup is:
A1: free look (press turning the free look on/off)
A3: UI controls (press as "Select", B1 as "Cancel" / "Back")
A4: UI next/prev pages, SRV break, and so on - not using this a lot
A2: Secondary fire
C1: Targeting (prev/next, most threat, subsystems, etc)
Fire: well, primary fire
"Quick fire" trigger: pressing it from bottom up is next fire group (prev with Shift), pressing from top to down is for changing mode (combat/analysis)
D1 (pinky button): FA toggle ("hold" mode)
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
I'm old school using the UI Look with the pinky finger button. FA off I'll probably use with that black lever above the primary fire trigger. If I am using four different weapons maybe I'll take another look. Then I found this pic to help.

NXT.jpg
 
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Retropolitan

Retropolitan
It's all pretty subjective, so one size really doesn't fit all. For what it's worth these are my bindings for two Gladiators; I think I made just one change on the right when I dropped my throttle for a left-hand stick. *

Two Gladiators Bindings.jpg

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Odyssey is likely to make the whole thing unreadable.

I haven't found any use for the encoder wheels. I'm pretty sure you can alter their function to a button press with the VKB software (or you can if you can understand that thing) but I really have everything I want already, so I haven't tried very hard.


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* I remember now that it was more complicated than that. I used to have some targeting functions on throttle hats, and something speed related on the right. The many buttons on the left hand stick made it possible to get all targeting on the right, and all speed on the left.
 
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Ashnak

Ashnak
norlin said:
yep, I'm using one for the radar zoom. Didn't found a useful binding for the second wheel though xD
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I'm using mine (on Virpil, though) for throttle (in addition to the left stick twist). Each click is 12.5% increment/decrement, so two clicks down get me 75% for SC approach, two more clicks down get me 50% for planetary landings. Short twist on the left stick, and the twist throttle overrides the click settings.
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
Retropolitan said:
...I haven't found any use for the encoder wheels...
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Thanks for all the ideas. I see you use a throttle paddle for the sensor zoom. I used the left encoded wheel for radar zoom in/out which seems to work pretty good. I'll look up another zoom in/out binding for the other wheel.

The lower A3 convex shaped hat is setup for menus, look around, pips however I'm liking the feel and placement of the A4 hat better. I'll just have fun figuring out what I end up with. My threat bindings are on a left hand throttle 4-way hat while the right hand is lining the ship with the target.

Regards
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
Looking at other VKB controllers I noticed two models seem the have the same joystick. Any real difference? Which one would you buy?

vkb_duo.jpg
 

LifesAJourney

LifesAJourney
The grips are the same (except for the mounting part which must fit the base). The bases are completely different, though. Essentially, the Gunfighter has a full-metal gimbal, swappable cams and springs, axis dampers and ability to use 2 springs per axis.
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
Thanks for the info. The NXT also comes with swappable springs, 6 more controls and a smaller metal base plate useful if a throttle is close to it on the desktop. After adding additional bindings on the base controls I'd probably miss them on the Mk.III.
 

Riverside

Riverside
Hooplah said:
Thanks for the info. The NXT also comes with swappable springs, 6 more controls and a smaller metal base plate useful if a throttle is close to it on the desktop. After adding additional bindings on the base controls I'd probably miss them on the Mk.III.
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I have a slightly earlier version of the Gladiator base, I use some of the extra buttons on the base too & would miss them. I have also not had an issue with the base at all & don't feel I bought the cheap alternative at the cost of quality or reliability, it's excellent. All the (minor) issues I've had have been with the grip. But it is plastic & not metal, and the gimbal doesn't have the fine tuning and mounting options the gunfighter provides for a dedicated sim-cockpit.
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
I was thinking one could purchase a Mk.III grip at lower cost for parts. It would not connect to the NXT base but all the other parts are there. Still two NXTs at $300.00 would be cheaper and might outlast ED! Add in the NXT Mk.III base supports multiple grips. Decisions, decisions.

Update: Sorry with the strike through I posted NXT the first time. Incorrect. I knew this but my brain didn't see my typing mistake.
 
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