Black Holes

UTU2TM

UTU2TM
I'm hanging out in a group of neutrons, white dwarfs, and some black holes.
Neutrons can be visually exciting, white dwarfs have the danger, what is there to be gleaned from a black hole?
Am I supposed to look at the age, or mass? What makes one black hole more interesting than another?

Thank you,
U2
 

GroG79

G
They are indeed all the same. The size difference is hardly noticable. So multiple in a system can be nice. The closer together or near other bodies the better for the visuals.

Mass would be the number to look for as I speculate the mass is tied to the size
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
Back when the game began, black holes and neutron stars were the most valuable things you could find, and the best source of credits for exploration. Go back through the exploration archive and you'll find people talking about "neutron farming".
 

UTU2TM

UTU2TM
GroG79 said:
They are indeed all the same. The size difference is hardly noticable. So multiple in a system can be nice. The closer together or near other bodies the better for the visuals.

Mass would be the number to look for as I speculate the mass is tied to the size
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I do see that most of the black holes i encounter have a mass of 2.whatever
I had one the other day that was 5.whatever, wondered if it was a black hole that ate another black hole.
Looks like I need to add another tab to the spreadsheet.
 

Samroski

Samroski
I've discovered more than a 1500 black holes, and the systems are among the most interesting in the galaxy.

Majority of black hole systems are F systems with BHs mass ranging from 3-7 sM, and frequently contain one or two neutron stars and multiple gas giants. e.g Dryoea Flyi FG-Y f462

The slightly lower mass E-systems, have 2-3 sM BHs and are frequently more interesting, with more gas giants with icy rings, and usually more planets than F systems. These are less frequent than F systems. e.g. Dryoea Flyi UE-R e4-1056

The higher mass G-systems contain BHs with >9 sM, frequently around 11-12 sM. rarely these systems have 2 or more black holes. G- systems generally either have one big BH with a neutron or two, or may contain multiple bodies- around 30-50 usually, and are worth exploring. G systems are rarer than E. e.g. Dryoea Flyi EG-Y g1889

Highest mass H (AAA) systems frequently contain BHs with other large stars - O, B, and occasionally have multiple BHs.

Most of BHs I've discovered are 2-12 m year old.
 

UTU2TM

UTU2TM
Samroski said:
I've discovered more than a 1500 black holes, and the systems are among the most interesting in the galaxy.

Majority of black hole systems are F systems with BHs mass ranging from 3-7 sM, and frequently contain one or two neutron stars and multiple gas giants. e.g Dryoea Flyi FG-Y f462

The slightly lower mass E-systems, have 2-3 sM BHs and are frequently more interesting, with more gas giants with icy rings, and usually more planets than F systems. These are less frequent than F systems. e.g. Dryoea Flyi UE-R e4-1056

The higher mass G-systems contain BHs with >9 sM, frequently around 11-12 sM. rarely these systems have 2 or more black holes. G- systems generally either have one big BH with a neutron or two, or may contain multiple bodies- around 30-50 usually, and are worth exploring. G systems are rarer than E. e.g. Dryoea Flyi EG-Y g1889

Highest mass H (AAA) systems frequently contain BHs with other large stars - O, B, and occasionally have multiple BHs.

Most of BHs I've discovered are 2-12 m year old.
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1500! Ok. I'm not going to feel guilty over only discovering 200+.
That is helpful information. I like the tip of being cognizant of the system before jumping into it.
I'm going to look closer at the sm values as well.
Thanks!
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
From a photographic point of view, Black Hole systems are "dark". For example, in ED, planetary rings are lit and coloured by the light from the primary star. If the primary star is a black hole, then the rings are dark (black). Black rings with a bright nebula background can look spectacular.

Of course, the most famous photographic effect with black holes is the gravitational lensing of the skybox. It's a pity the lensing doesn't apply to in-system objects (like other stars), but it's better than nothing.
 

marx

marx
Sapyx said:
Back when the game began, black holes and neutron stars were the most valuable things you could find, and the best source of credits for exploration. Go back through the exploration archive and you'll find people talking about "neutron farming".
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Minor correction: ELWs have always been the most valuable things you could find, but at the start, not by much. The difference was something like 7.5k Cr, if memory serves. However, the reason people would powerlevel their exploration rank via neutron farming was because you knew exactly where you would find neutron stars, unlikes ELWs (or any planets). So in terms of Cr/h, NS farming was the highest, followed by... simple honk-and-jump. ELW/WWTC farming was actually the third.
 

varonica

varonica
GroG79 said:
They are indeed all the same. The size difference is hardly noticable. So multiple in a system can be nice. The closer together or near other bodies the better for the visuals.

Mass would be the number to look for as I speculate the mass is tied to the size
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Mass is tied to the radius of the event horizon and the gravitational gradient, but essentially black holes are singularities, so you can't really express black holes as size.
 
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