Black wolves and King cheetahs?

Just looking for confirmation that black wolves will or won’t be in game?

There is debate in the scientific community over how black wolves came to exist - the gene is first noted in domestic dogs, and it is likely that interbreeding between domestic dogs and wolves may have passed this gene to wild wolves, around 12,000-15,000 years ago. It’s also likely that the black gene was favourably selected for in wild wolves due to it being linked to improved immune function, or better coverage in woodland (making better hunters of dark wolves).

Frontier might have decided not to include black wolves since the mutation might have originated in domestic dogs. I think that’s a bit of a silly reason to leave out what is now a very recognisable coat variation that occurs naturally, and has been documented since the 1800’s, despite existing for thousands of years. Even if the mutation did come from dogs, rather than wolves themselves, it was naturally selected for and beneficial and has now become very well established in wild wolves.

Contrast this to the dingo, recognised in game as a seperate species and with three distinctive colour variations (a wonderful inclusion!). The dingo emerged as a species about 2,500 to 3,000 years ago, when it arrived in Australia as a domestic dog and quickly became feral, under intense selection pressures that carved it into a new and distinct species, though that is also heavily debated by biologists, who are split into schools of categorising dingos as domestic dogs, wolf subspecies or their own species.

So, with all of that considered, I think it makes a lot more sense to include the naturally selected for, relatively common and iconic black wolf variation, rather than leave it out as a “man made” variant, so I hope it will emerge soon! I haven’t found one yet.

Another variation in a similar situation that I hope for is the king cheetah, with 10-50 individuals identified in the wild, compared to one verified sighting of a spotless cheetah, which we do have in game. King cheetahs should certainly have a place if spotless cheetahs are fairly easy to obtain in game!

If these variations aren’t in game yet, I really hope they will be included soon! And thank you Frontier for all of the subtle colour changes we now have, they are wonderful!
 
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If the variations you want aren't among the ones you get with this update, I highly doubt they will add them in the future.
I think this is a one-time fix.

And there is more that the game needs than just colour variations tbh.
 
I bet it was a lot of work adding variants to so many species at once, so it's possible they just did the bare essentials for now. They could possibly add more later, if we keep talking about it. I think black (and dark brown) timber wolves are highly requested. Any word on what the lions look like? I wonder if their manes are different enough.
 
A king cheetah variant would be cool but honestly I’m just happy to have variations now. Could be a option for a future dlc to add rare color morphs for different animals. Can’t wait to see the game now I’ve been avoiding videos and different sites so I can be surprised later tonight.
 
I bet it was a lot of work adding variants to so many species at once, so it's possible they just did the bare essentials for now. They could possibly add more later, if we keep talking about it. I think black (and dark brown) timber wolves are highly requested. Any word on what the lions look like? I wonder if their manes are different enough.
The variations are all a little buggy at the moment, so it’s a little weird or labelled incorrectly. In my main sandbox my two lionesses look the same but one is labelled as “sandy yellow” and the other is “pale”.

I also tested variants in another throwaway sandbox and had the same description, but the yellow female looked super light, while the “pale” female looked yellow.

I think there is a spectrum of colours within a description and they can overlap? Like in human hair - dark blonde is darker than light brown.
 
The variations are all a little buggy at the moment, so it’s a little weird or labelled incorrectly. In my main sandbox my two lionesses look the same but one is labelled as “sandy yellow” and the other is “pale”.

I also tested variants in another throwaway sandbox and had the same description, but the yellow female looked super light, while the “pale” female looked yellow.

I think there is a spectrum of colours within a description and they can overlap? Like in human hair - dark blonde is darker than light brown.
ohhhh yeah, they described it as "more colour variation on top of the animals existing textures and colour." And, "This method allows for gradual changes in colour between individuals through tens of barely perceptible individual steps. The written descriptions will stick to the major colour and pattern changes. When animals breed, their offspring create colour and pattern values in a range around the average of their parents, most often looking similar to at least one of their parents."

Guess they still have some kinks to work out though.
 
My gut feeling tells me this won't be the last time they'll be adding color variations. The main coding for the feature is done after all, it's just up to the art department to add more variation to animals. Guess time will tell.
I'm not an expert on coding, but if it's not extremely hard, they could add a new variation every now and again to keep the community calm if updates were a bit slow.
 
I'm no expert either. But I suspect they'll put their money and resources in other sections of the game.

Sure they can do more if it is as simple as many claim it to be. But if we want bigger DLC's. Shouldn't they concentrate on other stuff for that matter?

I'm happy for others and for myself as well that these variants are there now for sure.
 
I've never been all that bothered by wolf variants. I think the ones we currently have are a good compromise, especially because certain colours are more prevalent in certain subspecies than others, and the timber wolf is supposed to be the generic grey wolf. I'd rather they kept it to a limited number that adds enough variation to be interesting without adding in something like a variation that is specific to, say, the Indian wolf and not the Mackenzie Valley wolf. The black wolf is of course a different kettle of fish entirely but beyond "it looks cool" I don't really feel like it's inclusion or exclusion is especially important.

I'm all for the king cheetah, though.
 
This update is definitely a big step into the right direction,but at this moment I'm seriously just hoping that Frontier opens up the official mod support for animal colour variants.In that way they don't have to deal with this topic themselves and can focus on other things.There are many talented players/modders out there and mods like these won't hurt the game's profit in any way,because it's not about a whole player-made animal - only variants of already created ingame species by Frontier.Mods like these actually improve the popularity of a game.
It's somewhat strange that e.g. the lesser spotted cheetah is ingame (and easily obtainable/breedable),while there are only 3 trustful documentations about that colour mutation in reallife and other way way more common colour variants ( e.g. black wolf mentioned by Moonfox) are not ingame - and the stated fact that komodo dragons,springboks and peacocks have no clear colour variations in reallife is just wrong.
 
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