Blackmarkets, why don't they sell anything.

nosscar · Feb 17, 2015

Just like the title says, seems illogical to me, i can sell illegal stuff to them, so why can't i buy stuff that is illegal in that station, even if only a small selection and at a higher price and maybe marked stolen if need be, but would help with missions.

Is there a specific reason the devs don't allow this, any thoughts.

Hank · Feb 17, 2015

Good question ... wandered that myself.
+1

babelfisch · Feb 17, 2015

nosscar said:
Just like the title says, seems illogical to me, i can sell illegal stuff to them, so why can't i buy stuff that is illegal in that station, even if only a small selection and at a higher price and maybe marked stolen if need be, but would help with missions.

Is there a specific reason the devs don't allow this, any thoughts.

Good point!

starsphinx · Feb 17, 2015

Add me in as one that wondered about it. I might want to swap some stolen data for a nice load of illegal narcotics or something.

nosscar · Feb 17, 2015

I think it could even add to gameplay, checking them out if your looking for something for a mission, and as said above, you could swap illegals as needed, and imagine having to smuggle stuff OUT of a station, full boost to avoid scans.
Or being chased flying from the station.

ndorrin1 · Feb 17, 2015

I had thought this too. would add a fun dimension to smuggling if you had to sneak goods out too

cmdr awesome · Feb 17, 2015

+1. Also black markets should offer above-average prices for goods that are illegal locally. I'm cool with only getting half price for a can of domestic appliances that fell off the back of a T6, but slaves/narcotics/sugar should fetch a premium. This would open up smuggling as a fun high-risk-high-reward activity for traders.

Kerrec Snowmane · Feb 17, 2015

Given the fact that you have to choose the "sell illegal goods" option when selecting the black market, I'm sure it is open ended for future content.

-Jumper- · Feb 17, 2015

cmdr awesome said:
+1. Also black markets should offer above-average prices for goods that are illegal locally. I'm cool with only getting half price for a can of domestic appliances that fell off the back of a T6, but slaves/narcotics/sugar should fetch a premium. This would open up smuggling as a fun high-risk-high-reward activity for traders.

I like this also +1

babelfisch · Feb 17, 2015

This thread makes me wonder why there are no hauling missions for illegal goods.

[VR] Frank_G · Feb 17, 2015

What about special black market missions... to get some serious high risk smuggling into the game.

[edit] That ole Babelfisch was just faster than me

nosscar · Feb 17, 2015

cmdr awesome said:
+1. Also black markets should offer above-average prices for goods that are illegal locally. I'm cool with only getting half price for a can of domestic appliances that fell off the back of a T6, but slaves/narcotics/sugar should fetch a premium. This would open up smuggling as a fun high-risk-high-reward activity for traders.

yes as in the real world, illegal drugs and rare goods fetch a high price, might make smuggling a worthwhile profession, as just now, i don't bother unless i need to for a mission.

Titus Balls · Feb 17, 2015

I hope post 1.2 Frontier come back and do a smuggler patch. Even in 1.3 adding the ability to buy stolen goods and sell them in more places would be a start. Also after having visited a station it would be good to see a marker added to the map so you know where to go back to (or maybe a feature to buy the information, or get some information from NPCs)

nosscar · Feb 17, 2015

Another option is to use a similar mechanic to the now defunked Luxury traders, but instead have illegal dealers in various USS, that can buy & sell illegal goods. It would actually make sense then to remove black markets from stations, and have them out in space. (as dealing illegals inside a station is a bit unrealistic)
We could then have NPC police patrols scanning and attacking anyone found dealing or carrying illegal goods.

Ben Ryder · Feb 17, 2015

nosscar said:
Just like the title says, seems illogical to me, i can sell illegal stuff to them, so why can't i buy stuff that is illegal in that station, even if only a small selection and at a higher price and maybe marked stolen if need be, but would help with missions.

Is there a specific reason the devs don't allow this, any thoughts.

Dont think they've been ready to support black market sales whilst they have been fixing and balancing normal trade.

They tinkered a while back with deep space smugglers buying luxury goods but that didnt go far.

Plus they still haven't fixed reputation impact from having illegal goods on board.

Right now even selling goods bought legally in one system on the black market in another system results almost always in a 50 per cent loss.

If they have sales in the black market then everyone will be hostile with everyone within a day. It's too broken for them to build on.

ndorrin1 · Feb 17, 2015

I think smuggling does need some love. It should technically bring in a decent amount more than trade due to the hugher risk involved but at the moment trade seems to have a much better turn over with profit.