Breeding
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Albino tigers don’t exist 
White tigers aren’t really a breeding goal in real zoos. They do nothing for the tiger population and cannot be released into the wild. Unlike lions, white tigers are often inbred to achieve the white coat and can be pretty unhealthy.
White tigers aren’t really a breeding goal in real zoos. They do nothing for the tiger population and cannot be released into the wild. Unlike lions, white tigers are often inbred to achieve the white coat and can be pretty unhealthy.
I would love genetic mutations.
Albino
Melanism
Mutations that cause colored patches (eg. tovero + more don't wanna name em all as are lots xD)
Example of what I want to see for all animals (if possible for species to have color mutations)
Edit: I am aware that zoos don't focus on these things particularly... But that Doenst mean it shouldn't be a thing, it is a real life thing that can happen. And animals with color mutations are always found in the wild.
I am a huge genetic and mutation lover, an I'm sure other people are too, I know the game wants to focus on conservation, but I think the genetic mutations would be fun, I'd love to breed genetic color mutations in game to look at the uniqueness.
As I'm sure many others would too.
This game is just as much about education as it is anything else, so let's teach people about genetics and mutations
Albino
Melanism
Mutations that cause colored patches (eg. tovero + more don't wanna name em all as are lots xD)
Example of what I want to see for all animals (if possible for species to have color mutations)
Edit: I am aware that zoos don't focus on these things particularly... But that Doenst mean it shouldn't be a thing, it is a real life thing that can happen. And animals with color mutations are always found in the wild.
I am a huge genetic and mutation lover, an I'm sure other people are too, I know the game wants to focus on conservation, but I think the genetic mutations would be fun, I'd love to breed genetic color mutations in game to look at the uniqueness.
As I'm sure many others would too.
This game is just as much about education as it is anything else, so let's teach people about genetics and mutations
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Albino tigers don’t exist
White tigers have been found in the wild a few times.
While its not the Albino gene, it is caused by genetics.
Not ALL white tigers are the result of inbreeding, in captivity it is however common that they are inbred to keep the cubs white as both parents have the gene.
they are kept in a couple zoos as a 'wow factor' as a large number of people, love to see unique animals, while we know they are possibly inbred and it affects the health of the animal, most people dont know that.
but im not going to get into that factor.
more info on white tigers: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982213004958
(ScienceDirect is a database for science and medical journals, so a reliable source.)
Adding white tigers, would not necessarily be a bad thing, even if it was only caused by inbreeding
one of the videos states that genetics will need to be monitored, or it can effect health ect, so even at this, white tigers could still be a possibility with added risks/disadvantages.
The Truth About White Tigers - The Wildcat Sanctuary
What is a white tiger – really? White tigers are very popular with pseudo sanctuaries, breeders and exhibitors as they tend to bring in more visitors and more money. White tigers are Bengal tigers. They’re not albino or their own separate species, as many people think. White tigers occur when...
www.wildcatsanctuary.org
White tigers 'inbred for beauty and tourism dollars'
White tigers, while incredibly beautiful and popular, are clouded with controversy over the inbreeding required to produce the cat's rare appearance.
mobile.abc.net.au
White tigers in the wild are incredibly rare and in captivity they are always inbred. To obtain a natural white tiger is near impossible as these animals over time naturally died out as being unable to catch prey due to their lack of camouflage and poachers interest
Honestly, you cant say 'Always' as you dont know facts from every single country or every fact from family lines of tigers, all links you sent seem to be focusing on USA.... some whites are born from two regular tigers.
also, some links provided, are not accurate. first one states that even white lions are inbred, which is inaccurate... white lions are leucistic.
Ps, The second link you sent, also had my point in it... ''White tigers are Bengal tigers. They’re not albino or their own separate species, as many people think. White tigers occur when two Bengal tigers that carry a recessive gene controlling coat color are bred together. '' sentence does not mean they NEED to be inbred, just that it needs to be two tigers, with a gene, not related.
i could find just as many articles from places also stating my own point of white tigers as you have if i was to go to places like sanctuary sites.
but im not going to clog up somebody else's Forum suggestion with that as i would like to stick with their suggestion.
But again, point being made, was they CAN be in the game, even if your points are considered true by frontiers standards, as it would be a bi-product of inbreeding. which i would assume is possible in game, as genetics can be affected.
-im in no way saying that i agree with places inbreeding ect, i just want to make the point, that not every, single, white tiger, is in fact inbred, and that the game should be able to have the option there, whether threw inbreeding or a rare natural occurring gene mutation-
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Albino tigers don’t exist
The breeding of different morphs was part of many zoo games. In Wildlife Park 2 you could breed when you‘re lucky albino crocodiles or white tigers. in zoo tycoon 2 it was possible to breed white tigers and in the last part of zoo tycoon they even have a special morph for each species.
Realizing that breeding such morphs is not zoo targeting is clear to me. Would it still find cool if you would incorporate it into the game
PS: This text was created with the Google Translate because unfortunately my English skills are not the best
I’m sorry, but white lions (leucistic) are to some degree inbred. As this article points out https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thedodo.com/amphtml/white-mutants-how-these-big-ca-702200407.html
Also, I’m not focused on the states, If you actually bother to read articles published biologists and zoologists, they state that white tigers almost never naturally occur, as they die before they can pass on genes. If people like biologists and vets are stating these facts, I think I’ll take their word for it , In all honestly, I think these people know what they are talking about. Point is, it’s rare for tigers to even carry that gene, because those cats died out, therefore, when they come across tigers who do carry that gene, they are most often from the same litter or same parent ect
I never said I wouldn’t want a slight chance of getting them by random in PZ. I’m just taking real life facts
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I would actually really like for there to be a small chance for white lions / tigers as Aero-Bubbles said. I love games with rarity features like that. Hard-to-obtain animals could increase replayability for those that are willing to grind for them .
Since they've hinted at how detailed the genetics system is going to be it would be cool if you could "unlock" certain genes to use for potential off-spring. Wether that's ethical or not is fully up to your personal point of view in my opinion.
.Since they've hinted at how detailed the genetics system is going to be it would be cool if you could "unlock" certain genes to use for potential off-spring. Wether that's ethical or not is fully up to your personal point of view in my opinion.
Mutations would be great. I don't know if they will be in game, but I would like them. Yes, an educational zoo wants to breed only "standard" colors. But maybe my goal in some zoos will be to have special animals. It's fine to be a little unmoralic in a game sometimes. And breeding for colors could give the game some more long-term goals when playing. Not that I need them, but some do. And the feature would be best if we can exchange our animals with other players as well.