General / Off-Topic British SciFi author Charles Stross: Die, MS Word, DIE!

I have the 2002 version of Word but much prefer Open Office now as you can add lots of little things to it and of course it is free.
 
@those who claim that word is 'fine':

Even if you don't have problems with program's usability, there is still the issue of file format being opaque, non-portable, bloated mess.

Because of its ubiquitousness, it's a widely supported proprietary format though. Ideologically, that's not good of course, but practically, it's not much of issue. And you can save as RTF/HTML/etc, or even go as mundane as copy and paste, if you do need to be compatible with something that doesn't do DOC.

Since version 2010, I've even grown to quite like it. :)
 
Even if you don't have problems with program's usability, there is still the issue of file format being opaque, non-portable, bloated mess.

That is true, albeit less so than some years ago. You can change the ".docx" extension on a file to ".zip" to see its contents in bonkers-but-readable form (which doubles as a handy way to extract images).
 
That is true, albeit less so than some years ago. You can change the ".docx" extension on a file to ".zip" to see its contents in bonkers-but-readable form (which doubles as a handy way to extract images).

I am not going to get sucked in, but to clarify for anyone.
A .docx 'document' is a file structure contained in a zip file, the contents of which are OpenXML format. This at least is a step in more collaborative direction from the ridiculous .doc format.

The efficiency of what it creates is open to debate.

My day job is in document workflows. Lets just leave it at that. :mad:
 
I use Microsoft office at work but have long come to the conclusion that open office or Google docs even is perfectly fine for personal use.

Can't see what Word can do that is better than those two so why pay for the licence?
 
I do most writing these days on my Android tablet using Textmaker and a Bluetooth keyboard. Very cheap option. Textmaker will save to a variety of formats, and only at the last minute do I use MS Word if I really must.
 
I think the point for an author is that publishers and editors always ask them to submit their text in .doc format and then return their comments in the same format. This is painful for someone who uses some other word processor.

What standard would you prefer them to request? Whatever they would change to others would complain about.

One thing many forget about Word is that as a DTP lite software it's great. Image manipulation is very easy for instance. Its corporate features are nice too, like integrated flowcharts and tables, auto-ToC, and some great defaults for writing Business Plan style documents. On the business side it has a lot of useful stuff that most users don't touch but some of us really appreciate. Plus it exports to pdf format much more reliably (WYSIWYG) than any other Word-style program I've used.

But for creative writing I tend to use Google Docs, since it's immensely convenient to access and edit files from anywhere and I don't care much for fancy features. Except for drabbles - Word's in-line wordcount is rather handy for those.
 
What standard would you prefer them to request? Whatever they would change to others would complain about.
Well, some publishers nowadays also accept .rtf and some other formats - I've not seen anyone accepting .odf yet, though. It is the industry standard that is bothersome to authors.

Libre and Open Office both export perfectly good PDFs as well - they even have a button for the export function right in the top panel. They also have inline word count function, so there's really no reason to pay for Word.

And, in my case, I would get the Office pack pretty cheaply through my work, if I wanted to. I just don't want to.
 
Libre and Open Office both export perfectly good PDFs as well - they even have a button for the export function right in the top panel. They also have inline word count function, so there's really no reason to pay for Word.

But there is reason to pay for Excel, and Word comes with it. Plus in my past experience (admittedly a couple of years ago) Open Office was very funny about exporting documents with pictures in them to PDF. It did the job, but it didn't always come out the same.

Google Docs is also inconsistent with PDF exports. For instance if I export my Anthology story to PDF it screws up the formatting on the poetry - I have to go through Word to get it right. Word I've always found to be reliable for this.
 
Libre and Open Office have developed a great deal over the past couple of years. I used to have problems with them and had to save often to avoid losing stuff, but nowadays they are perfectly good for novel writing. And I haven't had any problems with PDF export either - although I have not tried it with many images etc.

I have no great need to use Libre Spreadsheet at home, so I cannot say much of it other than that it works for simple stuff. At work I use Excel, naturally.
 
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