Hardware & Technical Building a new pc.. parts list, am I missing anything??

Jon flint

Jon flint
Ok this has been a planned "dream pc" project for a while, brought the case and a Vega 64 a few months back, but sold the Vega card (£150 profit ftw!).

With the launch of the 8700k, I figured I better get started with the build. Just ordered a whole bunch of other parts, but since the last pc I built from scratch was a pentium 1 machine I figured I better ask if I've missed anything obvious from my parts list...

Parts list:

CPU:
i7 8700k -no stock yet will order when available

GPUs:
EVGA GTX1080ti SC2 -ordered
EVGA GTX1080ti SC2 -ordered

Storage:
Samsung 850 pro 512gb SSD -ordered
Samsung 850 pro 512gb SSD -ordered
Samsung 960 evo 250gb m.2 internal SSD -ordered

Memory:
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32gb (4x8gb) DDR4 3200MHz -no stock yet, will order on release or finding something better

Mainboard:
Aorus Z370 gaming 7 mobo -ordered

Cooling:
NZXT 240mm kraken RGB aio CPU cooler -ordered (hopefully the correct one for coffee lake cpu??)

Case:
Thermaltake Core P3 case (white) - already got this.

PSU:
Thermaltake 850w toughpower 80 plus gold PSU - ordered (not sure if it'll be enough for sli rig though!)

Cables etc:
EVGA pro 2 way HB SLI bridge -ordered
Thermaltake 200mm pci-e riser cable -ordered+ another came free with case
Bitfenix alchemy 2 PSU cablemod kit (white) -ordered
Cablemod AIO white sleeving kit for nzxt Kraken -ordered
NZXT white fan trim for Kraken fans -ordered

Misc:
Ifixit toolkit -ordered

A loooong time ago I got a fancy microsoft certification as a systems engineer, but it's so out of date it's not even funny. Genuinely going to have to re-learn how to build a pc, not even sure how to install windows on the thing without DOS and an optical drive!

Hopefully I haven't missed anything, hope to have this done by Christmas.

+I'm aware there isn't much storage space, the m.2 is for the OS and the 2 SSDs for game storage, they should be enough for me, but I'm open to adding a large capacity HDD as basic storage if I need to.
 
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Shadowdancer

Shadowdancer
Get a Noctua cooler, your fingers will thank you.

What are you planning with that combination of SSDs? At the rate you're burning money, I'd rather get a 960 Pro instead of the Evo, and a single 1TB whatever instead of the dual ancient 850s. And then you get an external old-fashioned piece of spinning rust for backups.
 

warlock

warlock
Jon flint said:
Ok this has been a planned "dream pc" project for a while, brought the case and a Vega 64 a few months back, but sold the Vega card (£150 profit ftw!).

With the launch of the 8700k, I figured I better get started with the build. Just ordered a whole bunch of other parts, but since the last pc I built from scratch was a pentium 1 machine I figured I better ask if I've missed anything obvious from my parts list...

Parts list:

CPU:
i7 8700k -no stock yet will order when available

GPUs:
EVGA GTX1080ti SC2 -ordered
EVGA GTX1080ti SC2 -ordered

Storage:
Samsung 850 pro 512gb SSD -ordered
Samsung 850 pro 512gb SSD -ordered
Samsung 960 evo 250gb m.2 internal SSD -ordered

Memory:
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32gb (4x8gb) DDR4 3200MHz -no stock yet, will order on release or finding something better

Mainboard:
Aorus Z370 gaming 7 mobo -ordered

Cooling:
NZXT 240mm kraken RGB aio CPU cooler -ordered (hopefully the correct one for coffee lake cpu??)

Case:
Thermaltake Core P3 case (white) - already got this.

PSU:
Thermaltake 850w toughpower 80 plus gold PSU - ordered (not sure if it'll be enough for sli rig though!)

Cables etc:
EVGA pro 2 way HB SLI bridge -ordered
Thermaltake 200mm pci-e riser cable -ordered+ another came free with case
Bitfenix alchemy 2 PSU cablemod kit (white) -ordered
Cablemod AIO white sleeving kit for nzxt Kraken -ordered
NZXT white fan trim for Kraken fans -ordered

Misc:
Ifixit toolkit -ordered

A loooong time ago I got a fancy microsoft certification as a systems engineer, but it's so out of date it's not even funny. Genuinely going to have to re-learn how to build a pc, not even sure how to install windows on the thing without DOS and an optical drive!

Hopefully I haven't missed anything, hope to have this done by Christmas.

+I'm aware there isn't much storage space, the m.2 is for the OS and the 2 SSDs for game storage, they should be enough for me, but I'm open to adding a large capacity HDD as basic storage if I need to.
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Nobody likes a show off!!!!!
 

TopCat160

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Not so much commenting on the loadout, but you may find https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/ useful.

For instance, this is the parts list for my current build, although the hard disks aren't shown.

Just over two years old now, there's a 1TB Samsung 960 Pro earmarked for it in the nearish future.

For installing Windows, I'd recommend putting the ISO on a bootable USB stick. Hell of a lot quicker than a DVD. I did that for mine, and from bare metal to a Windows desktop was 6 minutes.
 
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Jon flint

Jon flint
warlock said:
Nobody likes a show off!!!!!
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Sorry man, showing off wasn't my intention :)

If it helps, it's taken me literally 2 years to save up for this thing, and much like my current pc it'll be obsolete in a couple of years, obsolete but damn pretty hopefully :)

Shadowdancer said:
What are you planning with that combination of SSDs? At the rate you're burning money, I'd rather get a 960 Pro instead of the Evo, and a single 1TB whatever instead of the dual ancient 850s. And then you get an external old-fashioned piece of spinning rust for backups.
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I got the dual 850s for <£100 for the pair, figured it was too good a bargain to pass up. The original plan was just to have the m.2 and my old 2tb HDD from my current rig.

Shadowdancer said:
Get a Noctua cooler, your fingers will thank you.
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Given the open nature of the case (not my rig but good example pic), I was going for "pretty" parts. From the reviews I've read, the noctua coolers/fans are very effective but to me at least they are fugly as heck. +From what I understand, the 8700k runs quite hot, so liquid cooling should be a better option than air.
 
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starman

starman
Get creative

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Crank Larson

Crank Larson
warlock said:
Nobody likes a show off!!!!!
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This. :D

But on a more serious note, as it is clear that budget isn't an issue, you may want to consider two M.2 Samsung 960s and put them in RAID (though as advised, go for Pro). This will provide faster access, though your machine is going to be so fast anyway that I doubt you'd notice the difference (you'd be able to measure it, though).

I don't bother with SSDs for data - I just RAID 0 the largest SATA drives I can find at the time (currently I've got two 3Tb RAID 0 arrays). I don't see the point in paying a premium for data storage.

Also, do you need two 1080Ti's? What are you planning on playing? A single one of these cards should run pretty much anything on the market currently. I'd be inclined to save the money on the second card to see what comes out down the road.
 

Crank Larson

Crank Larson
Jon flint said:
A loooong time ago I got a fancy microsoft certification as a systems engineer, but it's so out of date it's not even funny. Genuinely going to have to re-learn how to build a pc, not even sure how to install windows on the thing without DOS and an optical drive!
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Nothing's really changed. Everything just slots together still. Installing Windows is much easier though... Boot from USB drive, and five minutes later you should have the OS up and running (it really is that fast when you use SSDs).
 

Jon flint

Jon flint
CMDR Crank Larson said:
Also, do you need two 1080Ti's? What are you planning on playing? A single one of these cards should run pretty much anything on the market currently. I'd be inclined to save the money on the second card to see what comes out down the road.
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Some of the games I play are really poorly optimised+ given that it's kind of a show off build, 2 GPUs just looks better :)

One of the games I'm currently playing (Train Sim World) runs on unreal engine 4, but is so badly optimised, folks with i7 6700s and single 1080ti's are only hitting 30-50fps at 1080p, my current rig (i7 4790+dual 1070s) regularly sees dips down to 17fps!! I figure 2 1080ti's may just about average 60fps if I'm lucky!

Besides, it can't hurt to future proof a little, looking at how fast my current GPUs have become obsolete (literally 1 year from being able to run anything out there at 1440p, to having to turn down settings at 1080p!), I'd like to get as much horsepower in there right from the start.
 

Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
I'd ditch the SATA SSD's and just go for a single 960 PRO M2, 512Gb+.

256Gb is pushing it a little as a system drive. Samsung magician goes a bit bonkers with multiple Samsung SSD's installed, it doesn't work on RAID configurations, you can't use the RAM cache on a M2 drive anyway in the latest version.

That CPU is limited to 16 PCIE lanes. SLI and a M2 drive is pushing it.
 

Jon flint

Jon flint
Asp Explorer said:
I'd ditch the SATA SSD's and just go for a single 960 PRO M2, 512Gb+.

256Gb is pushing it a little as a system drive. Samsung magician goes a bit bonkers with multiple Samsung SSD's installed, it doesn't work on RAID configurations, you can't use the RAM cache on a M2 drive anyway in the latest version.

That CPU is limited to 16 PCIE lanes. SLI and a M2 drive is pushing it.
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Interesting about the pci-e lanes, I hadn't considered that I may end up hogging them with multiple SSDs and dual GPUs.

I do kind of need at least one ssd, stupidly, it's purely for asthetic purposes, there's a mounting hole that would look silly with nothing there. Also the SSDs were kind of a bundle deal, if I return them I have to return both :(

To be honest, I think I'm more likley to ditch the m2, right now I'm running from a basic 256gb SSD which doubles as an os drive and storage for select games, it seems just fine performance wise.
 

Straha Yeagar

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m.2 is just the slot, and m.2 devices can use various busses through the m.2 interface including the USB, SATA, and PCIE. Most m.2 SSD's are either SATA or NVME...so is the m.2 a sata standard or NVME? The NVME is far better performance.
 
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Zeeman

Zeeman
Yeay for the roll your own PC!!! Looks like a sensational rig you have in the making!

Just make sure you plug the cpu fan into the right header. I took my PC apart 3 times trying to figure out why it refused to boot whilst installing a new CPU cooler. The room was a tad dark, and I plugged it into the wrong header... finally figured it out when I grabbed my phone and used the LED light to shine it right in there.

Won't be making that mistake again...

Having said that, I do question the wisdom of 2 x 1080Ti. It seems to me that fewer and fewer games support dual GPU's properly, and Volta is close enough now that I'd just keep the cash from one of them to use towards a Volta GPU next year.

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Zeeman

Zeeman
straha20 said:
m.2 is just the slot, and m.2 devices can use various busses through the m.2 interface including the USB, SATA, and PCIE. Most m.2 SSD's are either SATA or NVME...so is the m.2 a sata standard or NVME? The NVME is far better performance.
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Being a Z370 board, I'd say it's pretty safe to say NVME. My Asus Gene VIII (Z170 board) supports NVME.

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ajg74

ajg74
Sounds like it is going to be a beast, all looks ok it's your money and your dream PC, but I see no mention of case fans, are you planning on using the ones that come with the case as they are often pretty poor (even on expensive cases) and tend to have no sort of speed control?

I personally always replace case fans with BeQuiet ones, they aren't the dearest but they are very quiet in use. Get as many pwm ones that your motherboard has headers for or just buy none pwm ones and either a manual fan controller or an auto one with temp sensors, your PC will run cooler and quieter. I go by the rule of having as many large fans running slowly principle, so if you have fan slots that take either 120mm or 140mm fans always use 140mm and use as many as your case will support. If your case has a fan on the side panel where your GPU's are you want a big fan blowing IN over the GPU's, this makes a huge difference to temps (I have tested having the fan sucking air out and blowing in, with my single GTX770 the temp difference with Elite running was 20c + in favour of the air blowing in over the GPU's!).
 
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