Camera views?

Riedquat

Riedquat
Hi,

One of the things that really adds immersion for me in flight/space sims is the ability to use an external camera to view other objects.

I like to sit back sometimes and watch battles unfold , or just look at various things.

Does anyone know if ED will include camera options like this?

EDIT - Just to clarify - I dont mean a 3rd person camera , I wouldn't want this.
 
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Slawkenbergius

Slawkenbergius
There'll probably be some kind of camera drone so that you can see your ship in 3rd person, without Frontier actually having to implement it as a legitimate option for flying. Also, there may be views from cameras attached to your hull.

Both of these will still be viewed on some kind of display inside the cockpit of your ship however. The whole game is played 1st person from the eyes of your commander.

Oh, and welcome to the forums!
 

Riedquat

Riedquat
thanks, I'm not so interested in 3rd person , I just like to look around at stuff outside of my ship.

Also nice for screenshots/movies etc.
 

Sterlino

Sterlino
3rd person view ruins the phatos and the immersion.
I will never be tired to say that.

However in this case once the ''step outside your spaceship'' update will be available 3rd person could be ok.

the matter of the discussion is: you're not a spaceship, you're a man inside a spaceship.
 

Zarkon

Z
I also would like external views similar to the previous Elite games. A front, back, left, right (top & bottom) camera like the original game to have a clear view of the marvels we might encounter during our travels. As well as a vanity view like FE2 so we can admire our baby any time we want. I have no problem with all ship functions being disable while in these camera views, except for panning around of course. If it is only available thru special purchasing that would be cool with me too.
 

Roi Danton

Roi Danton
Sterlino said:
3rd person view ruins the phatos and the immersion.
I will never be tired to say that.
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As far as I understand the OP didn't ask for 3rd person view but for an object centered "cinematic" camera without any HUD or gameplay elements, just for enjoying the sight. So you won't be able to perform in a battle anyway with that view.

Direct link to the list Patrick mentioned. (thx for the hint! :) )
 
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Barns

Barns
Slawkenbergius said:
Both of these will still be viewed on some kind of display inside the cockpit of your ship however. The whole game is played 1st person from the eyes of your commander.
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I sincerely hope the proposed camera drones have their view shown full screen and not just as a small in-cockpit image. After all, their main reason for existing is to provide a way to get nice screenshots of your ship without giving actual 3rd person control.
 

jabokai

jabokai
Barns said:
I sincerely hope the proposed camera drones have their view shown full screen and not just as a small in-cockpit image. After all, their main reason for existing is to provide a way to get nice screenshots of your ship without giving actual 3rd person control.
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A photo competition was in one of the proposals so they'll have to give decent tools to accomplish that anyway, I wouldn't worry.
 

Flavio

F
Since having all these extra views is not necessary for the game but a nicety and FD are looking for ways to make extra income for the game, they may charge an extra fee for that perk. They also might do the same to be able to record or reply certain parts like watching how you blew up your opponent from an external view or maybe have it from your adversary's point of view.
If FD want to have certain content paid for then I would prefer things like this rather than having the credits sold for real money since these niceties do not skew a players ability like being able to buy a bigger ship, the problem is will people pay for it - if the answer is no then they will have to find some other way of raising money, in any case I suspect that these external views will be present in some form.
 

Slawkenbergius

Slawkenbergius
I don't reckon they'll charge for screenshots... The camera drone and external views would probably have an actual game function too, like checking your hull for damage and directing your repair drones.

And yeah, I assume that although in-game you'll see them on a holoscreen inside the cockpit while playing the game, the image saved to disk will be directly from the camera.
 

-o-

O
Sterlino said:
3rd person view ruins the phatos and the immersion.
I will never be tired to say that.
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This I could never understand.

The ability to have external views does not ruin the immersion as the cockpit view is still there. You will not be forced to use an external viewpoint. If you believe it ruins the immersion, simply do not use it or even unbind it. For others however, they may want to use this simple feature from time to time.

The capability of such views is already built into the engine so no resources will be required to implement it.

I believe the game will be very beautiful. If you look at Dev Diary #8, in the first 20 seconds, you will see a beautiful scene, the likes of which can only be seen without a cockpit. We are not talking about flying from a 3rd person perspective here and thus gaining some kind of tactical advantage. It is just about having the ability to appreciate the game more, in different ways.

Sometimes its nice to stop and smell the flowers.
 

Rog

Rog
I completely agree, it's clear that FD will give us a fantastic galaxy to explore, and I'd like to get an outside view sometimes.
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Sometimes its nice to stop and smell the flowers.
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Just don't open the window to do so. :D
 

Norbert

Norbert
If you watch the last dev diary video they show some camera moves following the head of the pilot. So if you are in a ship with a big window overhead, you will get decent space scenery I guess.
 

TheDarkKnight

TheDarkKnight
I would expect to be able to change the camera view to see around my vessel and take screen shots but I do not expect to be able to fly the ship, arcade style, from behind.
 

Le-Betz

Le-Betz
David Braben said something about the idea to introduce what he called 'remotly operated missiles'. If I understand Him correctly it's ment to be a weapon.
Put a nuke on it and it might be pretty ultimate. Guess it's going to be pretty expensive, too.
 

Le-Betz

Le-Betz
Norbert said:
If you watch the last dev diary video they show some camera moves following the head of the pilot. So if you are in a ship with a big window overhead, you will get decent space scenery I guess.
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Do you have a certain ship in mind? I have.
 

Jack Booted Thug

J
Zarkon said:
I also would like external views similar to the previous Elite games. A front, back, left, right (top & bottom) camera like the original game to have a clear view of the marvels we might encounter during our travels. As well as a vanity view like FE2 so we can admire our baby any time we want. I have no problem with all ship functions being disable while in these camera views, except for panning around of course. If it is only available thru special purchasing that would be cool with me too.
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The problem is "panning around" IS a gameplay element.

Even if you cannot fly your ship or utilise systems you CAN in effect look around corners. A player might park his ship next to some object and then exploit such a view dynamic for observational purposes.

I say introduce drones of some sort which people can use for external views away from their ship.
 
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