Yea, but stacking always pay in full and always at a single jump distance.
After all, there is no demand for vouchers and no bulk sale tax, isn't it?
Can someone give me an update on mining from the year?
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Yea, but stacking always pay in full and always at a single jump distance.
After all, there is no demand for vouchers and no bulk sale tax, isn't it?
Currently you'll get around 560k per unit, maybe 700k if you only have a few to sell. This fluctuates a lot, whereas previously you'd consistently see 1.1/1.2m with fairly regular higher payouts.
All in all, Carriers and mining are practically made for each other. On the one hand, having Carrier markets in all the popular mining systems ensures that low-wealth players can always find an "okay" sale price locally and get back to mining right away. And for wealthy endgame players, Carriers have added a whole new "mining tycoon" minigame of jostling to attract player mineral sales and racing to unload at lucrative ports. (And the fact that some super rich speculators lost their shirts in a market correction? Bonus realism!)
EZ mode!
But seriously, my G5 armed trading Python is now bringing in excellent cash and materials, while still allowing for some adrenaline now and then. It's been fun!
Guess I'll confirm next time I sell some. I did check a week or so after the update and could find high sell for void opals (three stations were over 900k when I checked), but I didn't personally go and sell. I was working out what was worth mining, so looking at high sell price for all ores.
painite went from 900K max to 250k -400K 400K being rare enought for the demand to drop in 2hours. Help me with the 20% here please.
(not calculating but i guess VO and LTD are in the same state)
All due to poor demand system that still think ED is played by 30 cmdrs, with on 5 of them mining.
Mining can still make good money, it's just harder to make money reliably. Platinum seems to be the thing right now. But it does seem to change by the hour.
Rather easy stacked massacre missions seem to really pay right now. Especially in wings that can just make them go by so quickly it's almost annoying.
Stacked Robigo Mines to Sirius Atmo passenger runs are pulling down 15-25M a run in a properly outfit Python. You can usually make 4-6 runs an hour. There is a bit of an RNG element to it. G4 and 5 data/mfg mats as mission rewards are pretty common as well.
For a time, we were seeing 500M an hour doing mapped SSD mining in Boran/New Boran, and the eggsploiters were making as much as 750M an hour. I am surprised they let that go on as long as they did.
Rather easy stacked massacre missions seem to really pay right now. Especially in wings that can just make them go by so quickly it's almost annoying.
Stacked Robigo Mines to Sirius Atmo passenger runs are pulling down 15-25M a run in a properly outfit Python. You can usually make 4-6 runs an hour. There is a bit of an RNG element to it. G4 and 5 data/mfg mats as mission rewards are pretty common as well.
For a time, we were seeing 500M an hour doing mapped SSD mining in Boran/New Boran, and the eggsploiters were making as much as 750M an hour. I am surprised they let that go on as long as they did.
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So you mined those in 75 minutes, now tell us for what you sold them and how much time did you spent looking for and jumping to the sell station
And compare it with gold days of VO mining when you'd be getting 320 millions for about 90-100 minutes - time that includes jumping to the nearest 1.6million station.
Did not sell yet, I store
Seventy five minutes for everything. Searching and mining. I found a core every two - five minutes.
What I discovered is my old way of searching cores (boosting along and pulsing) was not efficient compared to how I do it now (hence the git gud)
I'am not comparing to the olden times, just saying you can get enough rare minerals in a decent time.
Screw min maxing
I think it's just human nature to be a bit "optimistic" about stuff like this.
Delivery missions that take "5 minutes" actually take the best part of half an hour if you include undocking, jumping, flying through SC and then docking again.
Similar thing with mining.
Any mining session that takes less than 90 minutes is "about an hour" and that probably doesn't include delivering cargo to a selling station, flogging it and then flying back to wherever you were.
I can gather 256t of stuff in my T10 in between 60 and 90 minutes but then there's the hassle of taking it to market etc.
That's the main reason I built myself a mining Krait with 128t of cargo space.
I can just take it for a quick blat, gather 128t of stuff in half an hour, dump it into my FC and then go and do something else.
When I accumulate 1000t of an ore, I'll figure out where to sell it all.
I've currently got, probably, a couple of billion credits worth of stuff stored in my FC.
Dunno if i was deliberate or not but I guess FDev have given us another reason to ow an FC.
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Mining isn't a "quick buck" thing nowdays... well, maybe Core mining in Rocky rings... However, for people with Fleet Carriers, I think laser mining is a very steady way of income. With the increase in price for Silver, Gold, Palladium, Platinum and Osmium, you can mine and store that over time in an FC. And the RNG isn't that bad when you mine all of those things. Pretty much every other rock has 20%+ of one of those.
Mining feels quite balanced now, imho.
Mining feels quite balanced now, imho.
I went laser mining in a decked out cutter, found a pristine metallic, and the experience wasn't optimal. I ended up with about 530t of Osmium, Platinum and some Panite, and walked with about 170m. This was for an hour or couple of hours over a few nights. I had to restock on limpets twice.
For a minimal risk activity, a take home of 170m is on galactic average not that bad, but, for all the hoops one has to jump through getting to a Cutter, it's probably not optimal short term.
Sad tomato that I missed the whole Panite primetime. I'd feel it's worth it after an hour or two with 300m. Shame tbh.
I'd say minining is pretty squashed. BUT still an activity to consider if ~150m cr for a safe activity is a change of pace for some 'cr pick me up'.
Worth noting that in the three days and 2 cutter holds of limpets, I only came across about 6 explodable asteroids, which scares me considering deep core as a viable option...
I do wonder if the ED nerf hammer was accidentally swapped with Thors hammer, and no one looked back to check the cataclysm.
For a minimal risk activity, a take home of 170m is on galactic average not that bad, but, for all the hoops one has to jump through getting to a Cutter, it's probably not optimal short term.
Sad tomato that I missed the whole Panite primetime. I'd feel it's worth it after an hour or two with 300m. Shame tbh.
I'd say minining is pretty squashed. BUT still an activity to consider if ~150m cr for a safe activity is a change of pace for some 'cr pick me up'.
Worth noting that in the three days and 2 cutter holds of limpets, I only came across about 6 explodable asteroids, which scares me considering deep core as a viable option...
I do wonder if the ED nerf hammer was accidentally swapped with Thors hammer, and no one looked back to check the cataclysm.
For those with FC's mining and storing looks like it works great. For new or returning players without a FC, mining is a PITA due to the selling demand. And dont forget the 5 billion price for a FC was set when VO/LTD's and Painite were much higher sell prices and had been that way for a long time. I get the feeling Fdev do not want new or returning players to be able to get a FC.
Unfortunately FDEV is good at drawing lines between the haves and have nots. To actually make BIG dough balls in ED you have to properly milk unintentional game play. For returning, or new players... it's a slog. Mindset then determines if that slog is gameplay or 'grind'.
Credits are an odd thing in ED. For some, credits are irrelevant, and for others credits are a huge pain.
Did not sell yet, I store
Careful there.. I mean with storing
I had more than 9000t of LTD stored on my Carrier in that week of July when i left my Carrier with an LTD buy order for 1 million a ton before leaving for holiday (2 weeks)
When i got back - FD already nerfed LTD prices (with something like a 3 days notice) and i was never able to sell those LTD for profit.
Lost about 6-7 billions in the next 3 months by selling at a loss
Hes talking about mining them, your talking about buying and reselling.Careful there.. I mean with storing
I had more than 9000t of LTD stored on my Carrier in that week of July when i left my Carrier with an LTD buy order for 1 million a ton before leaving for holiday (2 weeks)
When i got back - FD already nerfed LTD prices (with something like a 3 days notice) and i was never able to sell those LTD for profit.
Lost about 6-7 billions in the next 3 months by selling at a loss
The former us guranteed profit, the latter isnt.
This.
I guess people might get twitchy about storing stuff aboard their FC, depending on whether the market goes up or down, but selling mined ore for any price is profit... in terms of credits, at least.
A few months ago I was concerned enough about this that I deliberately didn't store any ore aboard my FC because I figured a nerf was inevitable sooner or later.
Now, OTOH, I suspect the prices are likely to remain fairly stable or, possibly, increase a bit if FDev listen to the moaners.
Worst case, I'll get 2 or 3 billion when I sell. Best case, 4 or 5 billion.
Who cares either way?
I'm perfectly aware of that, but ultimately when someone is mining they're trading time for credits.
And if one sells in one month for 200k a ton instead of selling tomorrow for 350k a ton... one's going to gain less money for his time.
So even if they're going "but i gain credits anyway", they're practically losing money.
I could pretty much say that i didn't lost money because of FD nuking them LTDs... i just made less, see?
No, there is no way for mining and then storing ore to cause you to lose money unless the sell price for it dips into the negatives, thats absurd. Practically or otherwise, and its certainly safer than what you did.
And yes I see, and that doesnt really matter. Unless your goal in life is to make as many credits mining as possible before the game shuts down it doesnt do anything practically except give you a potential out for your earlier arguement.
Do I want my billions now or later in the month doesnt make it stop being billions.
The only money your "losing" is the hypothetic money you could be making if gou kept mining and didnt do literally anythign else, like going on a vacation.