Can we all Cheer up please?

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I have noticed a trend frequenting these forums of people posting massive threads that list the ways in which this game is boring, buggy or broken compared to other games they have enjoyed in the past. They then receive a wave of responses that boil down to either yes they are right or no the game is not for them/take a break.

They go on to explain that frontier have got it wrong and that the player base is shrinking and we need to have X,Y and Z in the game before it will be fun. It seems to me though that its all gone to Frontiers plan and we have so far received exactly what they intended (bar a few bugs which is expected in any game that is still being developed.)

To my knowledge, there is a 10 year plan for this game that started less than 2 years ago. We got a base game for the cost of a regular game and an alpha release of 1 expansion pack. There is 4 updates planned for this first expansion throughout its 'early access' stage and then when its complete it will in total have added quite a lot of new content to the base game. Over the rest of the 10 year plan they intend to release possibly 8-9 more expansions (seasons) and in there 'early access' stage too so people can get the new content as soon as possible but essentially its not the complete expansion being released until the last update of that season.

The problem seems to be that we are all involved in the early stages of this 10 year development and many seem to be expecting all of those future features now. Thinking about this game in 2 or 3 seasons time, there will be a base game that is addictive enough that it hooks you in. Its one of those games that makes you completely forget about time and is sandbox enough that you choose how to spend it. The ships are Great, combat is solid, all the base ingredients are there to hook you in and make you want more.

People will be able to buy the base game, if they like it they can buy some of the expansions, each one adding a chunk of new things to do. If you really like the game then you wont mind buying extras for a richer game experience. If you don't like it, well you only bought the base game and its not a major loss. As far as I can see this is Frontiers plan and we are just going to have to remember that we are playing a base game that needed to introduce people to the elite universe so that if they liked it, they would buy the expansions too to get the most out of the game. If they continue to add as many features through the rest of the seasons as is promised with this one, then in 3-4 years time this game is going to be very rich in features and content.

So lets play the waiting game, enjoy the game for what it is right now and DON'T burn out on it as it is still in the early stages of a long development plan. Given the options of either wait 5 years before you can start playing a game that is half way through the development plan or wait 0 years and start playing now in a game that is just starting the long development plan I know which I choose.

I welcome all the comments that explain how I am wrong, but please lets just cheer up and enjoy what there is right now. Then put it down, enjoy something else for a while and come back when there is more to do. This game has huge potential, I believe that it will hit most of that potential but jeez, we need to show them some patience while they make it happen.

"Rome wasn't built in a day"

(and they're trying to make a whole freaking universe! :eek:)
 
I welcome all the comments that explain how I am wrong, but please lets just cheer up and enjoy what there is right now.
Most of those that comment here, both negatively and positively, are still enjoying the game. However, the last 6 months have been very disappointing with a large amount of bugs that have been acknowledged but not fixed, along with a Horizons expansion that didn't really contain much more gameplay. The fear for many is that this is what we will be able to expect in the years to come.

Personally I am eagerly awaiting update 2.1. If they, after the delay, don't release that in a polished and content-rich state I believe it will be the last nail in the coffin for Elite - or at the very least it will scare people away from buying Season 3 before it is more or less complete.
 
No. I'm happy already and resent the suggestion that I should "cheer up" more. How dare you try to influence my mood in any way. This thread sucks, and is a prime example of how the devs have completely failed us with Elite. I'm now going to prance off and drink more Onionhead. How very dare you.:p
 
You joking. Cheer is already at alltime high. After months of development of 50 people, bobbleheads were introduced. Everything else was delayed, there are no news, no communication about state of the game, just silence and endless streams, that nobody cares about.

Once engineers are released, you are getting colored lasers, better fsd range and bigger cargo racks. Changing these constants took fdev half year of hard work.

Now imagine, what can they do in year?
 
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Wow, That got derailed really FAST! like 5 minutes.

This is not my first forum :) I get that its a common theme and sometimes I think it just needs someone to sometimes shout out that its not all doom and gloom.

I think that its ok if people wait until the end of the season before the purchase to be sure that they will get a good purchase. Has been fine for years and I'm pretty sure they will have funds to do a typical game dev cycle of work first get paid later.

My apologies to those that were already happy ;)
 
A lot of the comments and commenters are (from first glance) negative ..... but mainly its because we care deeply for Elite
Many of us have been with the game for decades, Elite Dangerous was going to be all our hopes and dreams and Christmases coming at once ... and when we see areas that have been reported and acknowledged bugged for months and months we get disappointed...

Do i play Elite still? Damn right .... have played little else since launch .... do i want it to be better.... absolutely ... but i paid for lifetime-expansion ... i am holding faith that it'll come good .... but i think we're at a point (coming up on 18 months in from launch) where we feel that we can't keep playing 'just because' ..... there needs to be that mythical thing that we can't agree collectively on called 'depth' and 'content'

But we also want some polish.... the NPC AI has been broken since 2.0 ... thats almost 5 months of NPC's flying like idiots..... its spoiling the game ....
I do care ... i want FDev to succeed and i hope it'll all come good ... but we moan out of love (mostly) for the game
 
So lets play the waiting game, enjoy the game for what it is right now and DON'T burn out on it as it is still in the early stages of a long development plan.

I suggest, that while constructive critique has its place, anyone posting hysterically about; this game being broken, ED being over, people leaving in droves, no news in the newsletter, etc. and blah blah .. is really being .. a little girl ('s pink skipping rope handle?).

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Game is out of early access. The engine is great, the graphics and sounds are breathtaking, yet the gameplay is still shallow.
Sure, in time the game will evolve and lots of new features will be added.
Thing is, people are playing NOW.
And the 'now' version is incomplete and buggy.
How many times have we been promised a better mission system?
How many times have we been promised a better AI?
How many times have we wondered why there are still no passenger missions or any use for a ship like the Orca?
Why is the whole milkey way void of other lifeforms (with active gameplay elements) except for those few instances where the devs have *manually* put in some objects and the few far in between pieces of writing.
Why are CG's failing left and right over and over (bad copy-pasting and not listening to the players!)
It's hard to wait for years when it already sits on your harddrive.
Personally, I'm a bit in-between.
Still play the game on and off (less than I want to due to lack of time), but I can fully understand why others are bailing out left and right, and they are!
That isn't some kind of guess work either. I also have a friend list. It isn't very active lately...
 
Oh my god...THE TURRETED LIGHT SHOW POSSIBILITIES, GUYS.

DISCO CORVETTE TIME!

Sorry folks, slightly excited moment there. Can no-one else imagine an imperial wedding complete with wedding barge, and a few km to either side imperial cutters, lots of coloured turrets and slaves flying condors in patterns around the cutters to draw their fire into a light show?
 
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I'm so upset, I've been rage-playing the game regularly for months!!

It amuses me how many people want to take exception to a game they've spent hundreds or in many cases thousands of hours on - as being shallow and lacking content and being really bad and that. Odds are there are at best one or two titles alone that have the same hour count.

Frontier is doing fine, given what they are trying to achieve. They will never impress everyone or meet everyone's (often ludicrous) goals. That's okay. As long as they keep improving the game, and keep listening to the community, I have every expectation ED will continue to rock on.
 
Game is out of early access. The engine is great, the graphics and sounds are breathtaking, yet the gameplay is still shallow.
Sure, in time the game will evolve and lots of new features will be added.
Thing is, people are playing NOW.
And the 'now' version is incomplete and buggy.
How many times have we been promised a better mission system?
How many times have we been promised a better AI?
How many times have we wondered why there are still no passenger missions or any use for a ship like the Orca?
Why is the whole milkey way void of other lifeforms (with active gameplay elements) except for those few instances where the devs have *manually* put in some objects and the few far in between pieces of writing.
Why are CG's failing left and right over and over (bad copy-pasting and not listening to the players!)
It's hard to wait for years when it already sits on your harddrive.
Personally, I'm a bit in-between.
Still play the game on and off (less than I want to due to lack of time), but I can fully understand why others are bailing out left and right, and they are!
That isn't some kind of guess work either. I also have a friend list. It isn't very active lately...

Always flaws with a game, but it looks like a few of the promise updates will hit soon, including better AI. Which will make me a happy pilot in them ComNavs :)
 
You joking. Cheer is already at alltime high. After months of development of 50 people, bobbleheads were introduced. Everything else was delayed, there are no news, no communication about state of the game, just silence and endless streams, that nobody cares about.

Once engineers are released, you are getting colored lasers, better fsd range and bigger cargo racks. Changing these constants took fdev half year of hard work.

Now imagine, what can they do in year?

hmm, pretty sure its been less than 5 weeks since the last post on the dev update sub forum.
New bobble heads were a quick promotion of Frontiers other new game. Call it shameless advertising, much like the post above from BACKER #-4112 (Sorry bud, but I didn't click your really attractive link)
 
Thing is, people are playing NOW.

Which is why a glass half full attitude .. helps, everyone;

SRV unexpectedly blew up? Space is a dangerous .. a seal broke, system failure. Bad luck, but "stuff" happens?

Not enough missions? The Galnet is corrupt, only major players get to post. Like off-shore tax havens, the Elite Pilot's Federation needs to lobby for more democracy, while understanding these things don't happen overnight.

No passenger missions (yet)? NPC's are carrying them! Why? Dunno, infectious diseases .. ?

A case in point .....

Sorry folks, slightly excited moment there. Can no-one else imagine an imperial wedding complete with wedding barge, and a few km to either side imperial cutters, lots of coloured turrets and slaves flying condors in patterns around the cutters to draw their fire into a light show?

.. a slightly "sick" case in point :D
but nonetheless enjoying what's in and what's known to be coming. (That's one expensive gypsy wedding!)
 
Didn't read the whole text.

First of all, does it matter if the game is set to have a 10 year development plan when the basic core game is likely never going to change? Will there be any difference to the real gameplay 2025 in comparison to 2015? I'm not so sure. FDEV did a great job making the universe huge. But there are also equally huge flaws in the design that makes the game very boring and repetitive. Interstellar objects are very basic and doesn't give much room for jaw-dropping moments; game is simply too much of a simulator for me to fully enjoy it.
I'm not going to talk about grinding...

I wish Elite would be a better game than what it is currently. But in my opinion it's very mediocre, and playing more than 3-4 hours every week makes me crazy of boredom. I know things will come, but I fear those are just features, features that makes the gameplay wider but not deeper.

One more thing..... FDs pricing and business policy really put me off of it. I still remember how cheated I felt after getting Horizons for like 50 euros when I could've gotten 2 games for the same amount of money and still gotten more satisfaction from those games than I did from Horizons. I will hold onto my money for a while before purchasing anything new from FD.

I don't mean to dwarf the work that FD has done, but I really expected something....more.
 
You joking. Cheer is already at alltime high. After months of development of 50 people, bobbleheads were introduced. Everything else was delayed, there are no news, no communication about state of the game, just silence and endless streams, that nobody cares about.

Once engineers are released, you are getting colored lasers, better fsd range and bigger cargo racks. Changing these constants took fdev half year of hard work.

Now imagine, what can they do in year?

Are people still butthurt over the bobble heads that are done by part of an entire team responsible for in-game assets? This is like complaining the guy who completed the press molds for car assemply is a jerk for not building your resulting car fast enough.

The world doesn't work like that. Neither do game studios. Even small ones break up work across teams and people.
 
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