Cannabis to be a separate entity from Botanical Drugs b/c tobacco is already separate

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jvainio

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The only reason for my registration to this forum is the fact that I as a medical cannabis user I want to make a topic about dividing cannabis to be a separate entity from Botanical Drugs category ingame.:)

Cannabis should be a commodity in this game.

I base this on the fact that liquor and tobacco are separate entities, especially considering the latter one.

I understand that you have separated liquor from the Botanical Drugs category, but separating a "similarly used" (traditionally both are smoked) substance from the BD category while still having Cannabis in BD, is promotion of the tobacco and alcohol industry.:S

If they're still drinking alcohol and smoking tobacco 1300 years from now, they will most likely also still be smoking weed.:rolleyes:

You developers can add it to the game fairly easy, yes?

Or alternatively group tobacco to Botanical Drugs? (e.g. remove it from the game)

Why wasn't it added in the first place, this also puzzles me? Political pressure? :D
 
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8ballirish

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Yeah as much as I would like to see this added to the game I doubt it will happen, given cannabis is illegal in the uk, they could get a pr backlash from more conservative players/critics.
 
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jvainio

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Medical cannabis is legal in many U.S states, and in many european countries, so why not? :)

Why not go full on while they're on it? :D Add Cannabis (Indica) and Cannabis (Sativa) to represent the two main genotypes, indica being short bushy stout stoney effect bush, while sativas deliver long flowering christmas trees with an "High" type effect.

But at least, developers, please, at least add the basic type to the illegal goods; Cannabis

Value wise it should be a bit less than tobacco (due you get addicted to tobacco so you'd crave it more, while you don't get physically dependent on this), say, 80% of it's value or so.

Thank you,

Jack
 
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8ballirish

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jvainio said:
Medical cannabis is legal in many U.S states, and in many european countries, so why not? :)

Why not go full on while they're on it? :D Add Cannabis (Indica) and Cannabis (Sativa) to represent the two main genotypes, indica being short bushy stout stoney effect bush, while sativas deliver long flowering christmas trees with an "High" type effect.

But at least, developers, please, at least add the basic type to the illegal goods; Cannabis

Value wise it should be a bit less than tobacco (due you get addicted to tobacco so you'd crave it more, while you don't get physically dependent on this), say, 80% of it's value or so.

Thank you,

Jack
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Yeah im not going to go into details but I understood every word of your post XD, europe is catching up with our American(northern and southern) brother's and sister's but we still have far to come in my respects.

Cody said:
I believe that medicinal cannabis is now legal via prescription in the UK (but it's very expensive).
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News to me, link?
 
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jvainio

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_medical_status_of_cannabis

There it is, but read this:

However, a pack of 3 90-dose bottles of the drug costs £375, with an annual supply for a typical patient expected to cost £4250. This puts it beyond the reach of most individual patients and NHS trusts for all but the most serious cases.

It is also far more expensive than similar medicines produced under the US medical marijuana scheme, which cost approximately $21US per bottle.
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[SIZE=2]So after this I don't know should they have the price of the Cannabis commodity in Elite:Dangerous the "U.S" way or the "U.K" way... I'd still suggest the price to be somewhere near tobacco, so UK way it is I guess :)[/SIZE]
 
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Ben Ryder

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A cup of well blended tea from sun soaked hills is always good.

Not wanting to dumb down your post but lets stick with vague metaphors like onionhead rather than entering the crazy wolrd of arthur brown.

We sow the seed, nature grows the seed and some put the kettle on. Where there smoke, there's fire. Where there's steam... well you might be in for a relaxing cuppa of green tea.

Ah 80's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Ssr1GEwcU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2GD5C_wHY
 

InMemoriamSirocco

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jvainio said:
Please, add Cannabis as an illegal commodity <3
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For realsies? You really think that in the year 3300, Cannabis will still be illegal? Talk about bleak outlooks, man! I, for one, think that it is already in game, only not mentioned by Name, because in 3300, of course it is used as "Basic Medicine" ;-)
 

NatoNine

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I would prefer Tobacco and Cannabis are combined into one commodity not because I would prefer Cannabis not be mentioned directly but because I dislike the fact Tobacco is currently singled out for promotion. I think in a enlightened society the fact that both substance have about the same negative heath effects would make their legalities the same. Botanical Drugs might be a bit too broad of a term though, maybe Herbal Inhalables.

Everything about the Commodities Market betrays this games British origin... Two different types of Meat commodities but Fruit and Vegetables are lumped together like a afterthought?! Keep Tea distinct from Coffee and completely forget about Rice, the staple food for over half the worlds population!...

I hope at some point in the future it gets a overhaul to reflect a more enlightened and internationally (interstellar) balanced diet.

I think Coffee (Caffeinated Drinks) and Tea (Herbal Drinks) should also be put into the Legal Drugs category, lets face it they have very little nutritional value by themselves. All of the Medicines should be put into the Legal Drugs category too to reflect the ability of the included dugs to be used as narcotics.
 

NatoNine

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picommander said:
While nicotine is highly addictive cannabis is not.
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Addiction has nothing to do with what makes a drug legal or not, its the psychoactive effects that matter.

picommander said:
Everything else is an urban legend.
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You do understand that Cannabis is at least as carcinogenic as Tobacco right? Not to mention burning any organic matter and thousands of new chemicals are made which were not part of the original.

Adept said:
Tobacco still being smoked seems unlikely
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I could believe it if they came up with a easily administered cure to cancer etc... And I think they would have.
 

insistent

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picommander said:
You do realize that you don't have to 'burn' cannabis, don't you? There are vaporizers...
I smoked hard for more than 30 years (70 to 100 cigarettes a day) and stopped in a second on 04.04.2006 at 17:00. I know what addiction means, believe me (I spare you the long story about the following 5 month).
I agree with the psychoactive effects but that is something the government has no right to intervene, it's my very own personal decision. If not than it's not anymore the society of freedom and personal choices I enjoy to live in.

I would state the opposite: psychoactive effects have nothing at all to do with addiction. As long as I can stop it for as long as I want it's no addiction. And I stop it right now for the next 6 weeks (for some personal reasons). Where did you get that argument from that addictions don't matter but psychoactive effects do?
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I love my vaporizer, expensive but worth every penny.

Add weed to Elite!
 
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