Cannot Find Montrose Vision Planetary Outpost

[RobH]

I don't get this. I had my first mission to take a passenger to Montrose Vision on Tupa. Montrose Vision is a Planetary Outpost on Tupa according to EDDB but is not shown on the ED System Map.

No problem I thought, I have a Detailed Surface Scanner. So I approach the planet Tupa (which was initially showing as unexplored) and the Detailed Surface Scanner scans it automatically but there is still no sign of Montrose Vision on the surface and no mention of it in my Nav Panel. I decide to approach further and eventually get dropped out of supercruise but there is no planet approach heads-up even though there was a green circle around Tupa. Tupa looked like a plain grey ball of a planet, not very inviting and as I cannot proceed down to the surface, I fail the mission.

So what is going on and what am I missing? Yes, I have Horizons and I checked to make sure I could land on another planet afterwards which I did without problems. So what gives?

Rob

 

[d8veh]

Go to the nav beacon and scan it. That should give you a mission update that shows you where to go.

 

[777Driver]

Tupa is a system, not planet. Sounds like you are trying to land on the wrong planet, that port is deep within the system, just under 300,000ls away from the jump in point.

Either scan the system at Nav beacon, or land at the outpost in system and buy the data

 

[Oldric]

Tupa D4 is the one Rob

 

[RobH]

OK, I see 4 stars in the Tupa system but only 1 planet (Tupa BC 1) on the 2nd star with Leopold Reserve station orbiting it. I did land on this station en route to trying to find Montrose Vision. But I see no planets on Tupa 4. Guess I have to go and scan it to see the planets, if any, on Tupa 4. I did scan the Nav Beacon and it did not show any further planets.

Will try this evening but I thought all planets were automatically shown on the ED System Map but not necessarily all planet-based ground stations.

Thanks, Rob

 

[777Driver]

You can land at Leopold and buy data, or get it for free at the beacon. Anyway, as mentioned, the planet you need is very far out.

 

[Aashenfox]

Honking an ADS reveals anything that you have a mission for (in terms of revealing it on the system map, and in terms of updating the missoin with a location), what it doesn't do is identify bodies, but it does identify stations. In this case, I assume that you were doing a delivery to this base? If so, then again it was a simple case of incomplete system data. If you had either; Honked an ADS, or visited and scanned the nav beacon, or bought the system data from the galaxy map while landed at some other station in the system... you would at least have had the little world icon appear on the nav panel to indicate where you needed to go to deliver your stuff.

Hope that helps.

 

[Caointean]

That's probably because you have on of the cheaper variants of the advanced discovery scanner, which sadly doesn't have infinite discovery range. So yeah try to either buy the data or scan the nav beacon.

 

[Aashenfox]

That's probably because you have on of the cheaper variants of the advanced discovery scanner, which sadly doesn't have infinite discovery range. So yeah try to either buy the data or scan the nav beacon.

Sorry to be pedantic, but there's only one version of the advanced disco scanner, and the other two are literally worthless, they should not be in the game and everyone using one should immediately punch him/herself in the face.

 

[RobH]

Well, I found this exercise interesting and not quite what some of you indicated.

Firstly, I did say in my initial post I was using a Detailed SURFACE scanner after my Basic Discovery Scanner failed to identify Montrose Vision on the planet I initially thought would contain this surface base, which I incorrectly assumed was on planet Tupa BC 1, the only planet I had identified at the time.

So I wanted to do some further testing.

I took my Basic Discovery Scanner and scanned the Nav Beacon at Tupa again since from what some of you said, I assumed I had not scanned this beacon properly initially. Same again though, scanning the Nav Beacon at 10m with a BDS did NOT identify any planets orbiting star Tupa D. So I travelled to Tupa D and scanned that with the BDS. 2 planets appeared which subsequently turned out to be Tupa D1 and Tupa D2. Having scanned those, a 3rd planet appeared which turned out to be Tupa D3. No further planets could be found so no Montrose VIsion base appeared.

I then swapped the BDS for an Intermediate Discovery Scanner - I do not have the cash or resources for an Advanced Discovery Scanner as yet. Scanning the Nav Beacon at Tupa did not reveal a 4th planet at star Tupa D so I trundled down there again. No matter how many bodies I scanned I could not find a 4th planet orbiting star Tupa D with this Intermediate Discovery Scanner either.

Thus from what I have found, neither the Basic nor the Intermediate Discovery Scanner could find planet Tupa D4 either from scanning the Nav Beacon or from visiting and scanning star Tupa D.

Maybe an Advanced Discovery Scanner will find planet Tupa D4 but that will have to wait until I earn a few more credits to afford an Advanced Discovery Scanner.

Thanks for all your input, Rob

 

[FrogsFriend]

How to scan the Nav Beacon:
Target the Nav Beacon location in Supercruise.
Fly to it and drop down into 'normal' space'.
Target the actual Beacon; shows white on the scanner, looks a little like an egg when you get close and makes a morse-code beeping noise... Don't target the yellow 'Nav Beacon' marker that's also visible.
Once targeted you will see, on the lower left side of your HUD, a little spinning icon.
After a few seconds the spinning will stop and a message should appear at the top right of your HUD.
Check your System Map and it should show everything in the system.

You don't need to have any type of Discovery Scanner or Detailed Planetary Scanner to do this. It just 'scans' automatically when you target the actual Beacon object that's floating there.

 

[RobH]

How to scan the Nav Beacon:
Target the Nav Beacon location in Supercruise.
Fly to it and drop down into 'normal' space'.
Target the actual Beacon; shows white on the scanner, looks a little like an egg when you get close and makes a morse-code beeping noise... Don't target the yellow 'Nav Beacon' marker that's also visible.
Once targeted you will see, on the lower left side of your HUD, a little spinning icon.
After a few seconds the spinning will stop and a message should appear at the top right of your HUD.
Check your System Map and it should show everything in the system.

You don't need to have any type of Discovery Scanner or Detailed Planetary Scanner to do this. It just 'scans' automatically when you target the actual Beacon object that's floating there.

Doh, my bad! I was not actually targetting the white Nav Beacon, I was targetting the yellow Nav Beacon marker

And apologies for suggesting scanning the Beacon was "not quite what some of you indicated".

Many thanks again to all, Rob

 

[Aashenfox]

Another tip to avoid the extra flying time to visit a nav beacon is to buy the system data at the time you take the mission. Click the button 'show on galaxy map' at the end of the mission description, and if you can, buy the system data (ringed planet icon) from the map.