Newcomer / Intro Can't understand how limpets work

[Eriniy]

What do the materials in the hopper do?We refinery but I cannot sell them or understand what they are for.When I clicked on the arrows next to them they disappeared while in the port.
I understood the principle of limpets.Prospector limpets show the material inside the asteroids.Collector limpets collects.First we throw the prospector limpets, then we send the collector limpets while using the mine lasers.It gives me an error or it says failed.I watched the videos, I do it like them, but I just couldn't do it.I'm in the Nocori system, I bought my new ship there and I'm trying on the asteroid belts there, but I just couldn't do it.I have 8 million credits in total and I earned them all by exploration.This ship and those on it cost me all my expenses, but frankly, I haven't been able to mine yet.I want to mine cold diamonds but I haven't figured out exactly how to do it.

 

[TCTowers]

So you are prospecting the asteroid, mining it with lasers, then collecting fragments with collectors. Are you opening the cargo scoop so it places them in the refinery?

 

[TCTowers]

And do you have a cargo rack so when you complete a refined ton it places it in cargo?

 

[Factabulous]

When a refinery hopper is full you get 1T of the item in your cargo hold. You are pressing the button to throw away the contents of the hopper - don't do that

 

[Go'Gen]

Example, values may vary.
To refine 1 ton of Painite you need, say, 4 chunks of Painite (collected by collector limpets).
When you collect 2 chunks, your hopper will show one line of Painite (50%), something like that.
When you collect 2 chunks more, one ton is processed, moved to inventory and hopper is emptied.

- When you "chip" the chunk from asteroid with mining lazor, do not target the chunk, limpet will collect it automatically. If limpet collects targeted chunk, it will be destroyed upon delivery.

 

[Eriniy]

So you are prospecting the asteroid, mining it with lasers, then collecting fragments with collectors. Are you opening the cargo scoop so it places them in the refinery?

I have 16 T cargo rack.Cargo Scoop?I think the problem is there.I used it when I had no limpets.I will try again how to use it with limpets.TYVM.
Love you.

 

[Eriniy]

Example, values may vary.
To refine 1 ton of Painite you need, say, 4 chunks of Painite (collected by collector limpets).
When you collect 2 chunks, your hopper will show one line of Painite (50%), something like that.
When you collect 2 chunks more, one ton is processed, moved to inventory and hopper is emptied.

Oh ok.So what I collect comes out of the hopper when they become a tone.I think I'm starting to understand.TYVM.

 

[Eriniy]

When a refinery hopper is full you get 1T of the item in your cargo hold. You are pressing the button to throw away the contents of the hopper - don't do that

LOL I was in the port.Can I pick it up from the ground?

 

[TCTowers]

Oh ok.So what I collect comes out of the hopper when they become a tone.I think I'm starting to understand.TYVM.

If you watch your refinery as the limpets are depositing the fragments you ca see it working.

 

[Factabulous]

LOL I was in the port.Can I pick it up from the ground?

You used to get fined if you dropped cargo in stations - lucky for you that was taken out recently

 

[Nathan84]

You used to get fined if you dropped cargo in stations - lucky for you that was taken out recently

Huh, I was fined 3k credits this afternoon for dropping limpets in Kepler Orbital (trying to make some room for more escape pods and stuff)

 

[TCTowers]

You used to get fined if you dropped cargo in stations - lucky for you that was taken out recently

They’ve removed the fines? If I’d known this I would’nt have spent half hour looking for a bin for all my takeaway cartons!

 

[Factabulous]

Huh, I was fined 3k credits this afternoon for dropping limpets in Kepler Orbital (trying to make some room for more escape pods and stuff)

I'm guessing you weren't docked - there's still fines if you eject in the no fire zone - which includes inside stations ..

Edit: And before some pedant pipes up - yes, I am aware that doesn't apply to refinery ejection, it was a joke

 

[Speedcuffs]

Huh, I was fined 3k credits this afternoon for dropping limpets in Kepler Orbital (trying to make some room for more escape pods and stuff)

If you need to dump limpets while inside the station:
Turn your collectors off/on (it will destroy currently deployed limpets), then fire off more limpets.

 

[Nathan84]

I'm guessing you weren't docked - there's still fines if you eject in the no fire zone - which includes inside stations ..

If you need to dump limpets while inside the station:
Turn your collectors off/on (it will destroy currently deployed limpets), then fire off more limpets.

Oh, good to know.

I'm learning so much stuff, it's awesome.

Yesterday was don't pop a heatsink inside a normal station self-learning day, loved it.

 

[TCTowers]

I have 16 T cargo rack.Cargo Scoop?I think the problem is there.I used it when I had no limpets.I will try again how to use it with limpets.TYVM.
Love you.

When the collector gets to the ship with the fragment it deposits it in the cargo scoop to transfer to the refinery. If the cargo scoop isn’t lowered it will show a lower cargo scoop message on screen. Check your button options to see how on whatever platform and controller you are on.

 

[ChipStar65]

LOL I was in the port.Can I pick it up from the ground?

Dumped hopper contents just vanish. If you are looking to mine Low Temperature Diamonds (LTDs), you'll need to mine in Icy rings surrounding a planet, not the asteroid belts. The System Map info panel will tell you what kind of rings a planet has. To see if an Icy ring has LTDs, you'll need to use the Detailed Surface Scanner (DSS) on the ring. This will cause "hotspots" to be highlighted that tell what can be found there in terms of mining. Note that given the current state of mining, lasers may not be enough to be economical. LTDs can also be found in Surface Deposits (SDs), Subsurface Deposits (SSDs) and as cores in a few widely-scattered locations in a ring. Each of these three types require a different mining tool. To identify SDs, SSDs, and cores, you should use a Pulse Wave Analyzer (PWA) that causes ring asteroids with certain kinds of deposits to glow in the pulse wave. But not all that glow have LTDs so you have to learn to spot the brightest among a range of brightness levels.

Mining is not point and shoot except for laser mining, and that isn't particularly rewarding lately.

 

[aRJay]

Nevermind.

 

[Eriniy]

Dumped hopper contents just vanish. If you are looking to mine Low Temperature Diamonds (LTDs), you'll need to mine in Icy rings surrounding a planet, not the asteroid belts. The System Map info panel will tell you what kind of rings a planet has. To see if an Icy ring has LTDs, you'll need to use the Detailed Surface Scanner (DSS) on the ring. This will cause "hotspots" to be highlighted that tell what can be found there in terms of mining. Note that given the current state of mining, lasers may not be enough to be economical. LTDs can also be found in Surface Deposits (SDs), Subsurface Deposits (SSDs) and as cores in a few widely-scattered locations in a ring. Each of these three types require a different mining tool. To identify SDs, SSDs, and cores, you should use a Pulse Wave Analyzer (PWA) that causes ring asteroids with certain kinds of deposits to glow in the pulse wave. But not all that glow have LTDs so you have to learn to spot the brightest among a range of brightness levels.

Mining is not point and shoot except for laser mining, and that isn't particularly rewarding lately.

I know where to find the diamonds, I just wanted to try how to mine.I tried the asteroid belts in order not to leave my system and the ship I am currently using is not enough for me and I need 2-3 million credits.The jump range is currently unavailable for this job and I have no credit to buy the necessary frame ship drive.I tried it just to gain experience and to learn.As far as I learned while playing the game, NPC ships do not attack you if you are not carrying cargo.I got eight million credits with a lightly unarmed ship with just too much jump distance.I guess exploration is the most lonely and least profitable method in the game.While exploring, I do not know exactly where I am going or how much I will earn.Even if I destroy my ship, it costs me almost nothing.I earned so much money with an unarmed and tiny ship without running out of fuel.It took me exactly 12 hours to get to the system I was on.There are many sources on this subject, especially those that are to be used while making exploration.When I tried to use them and combined them with my own course in the game, I saw that they were all incomplete and wrong.I earned 3.5 million credits for discovering a single system, but it wasn't available on any source and I randomly found it.The only purpose for me to enter this system was to refuel and reduce the jumping distance, since I did not have the required jumping range to go to the systems on the routes in these sources I followed.These types of sites or recommended routes mentioned or recommended on many youtube channels are incorrect.I understand Youtubers, but they do not give the exact information they give.Likewise, there are inaccurate information and incompleteness on third party websites.It can be surprising that the jump distance between the given routes is 500 or 1200, and I think it is very unreasonable to spend hours for a discovery that yields 600 thousand credts, so I drew my own route.
In my opinion, one of the strongest aspects of the game is the number of star systems.Since I think that what the players should learn first is to be able to fly ships between these systems, I gave the first priority to exploration.I do not take risks, because I use a cheap ship, and I learn how to use it for my own benefit when it comes to PVP, what I see in different systems.After that, you need to earn credits, which is necessary to buy and upgrade good ships in the game.For this, I wanted to try mining, again when I compare it with other sources and the information provided by youtubers, I see that they are not correct.Telling players how to earn 200 million credits in twenty minutes with the most expensive ship in the game and a ship that has been upgraded to the highest level is simply to give false information.If we consider that the places where the parts necessary for the ships are sold and the distances between them take hours, and if we add that we are forbidden at first to enter the star systems where we can buy all the parts, it's all wrong information.The size and cost of the ships required for mining is quite high, something that can be done after a long time playing in the game.
I am a new player and encountered an incredibly high level of information pollution and useless resources.But every answer you give here is correct and helps me correct the mistakes I made.
Thank you so much.

 

[ChipStar65]

I am a new player ...

Your story brings back strong memories of my first weeks in the game, which I started not long after Horizons became available. It was incredibly exciting and confusing and occasionally threatening even in Solo mode. I also tried mining in the belts before learning better ways and better places, and that was before the additional mining techniques were introduced, so I did not do much mining, yet still earned enough via missions and cargo hauls to eventually afford better ships, but slowly compared to today's common rate of progress for newcomers. About the time I could finally afford an Anaconda, my first large ship, the new mining techniques -- SD, SSD, and core -- had opened up and I got into a Community Goals that paid excellent credits for mining and hauling Monazite, a core mineral only. That honed my mining skills (I cringe looking at videos of that time though, I was such a noob!) and pretty much made me financially independent from missions. From then on it was mostly mining, exploration and CG participation that kept me interested, with a few specialized missions to nail down Triple Elite.

All of which is to say, stick with it at your own pace and you'll have more fun than chasing after the latest Gold Rush or other popular exploitation.