Capitalism when you hold us ....

Lastgun · Nov 27, 2014

Frontier I do not ask you to refund but ...

First, spend time and money unnecessarily with a first event. Many players already know about the game, I think it would be better to improve it, than to make additional advertising ...
(boys I did not work at the moment, but I have a fairly developed critical sense, you'd hire me as a consultant that would have costed you cheaper)

I'd rather see the money spent for:

- Integrated quality landing, feeling the weight ( I assumed that the stations were supposed to have a little gravity ?, as they are rotated on themselves) for those who think real or not, no matter, no one hears sound space, but I find it great to hear the sounds of explosions and engines.

So I would feel the weight of the vessel at the time of landing, to have to get really gently to avoid breaking a landing gear and having to make an emergency stowage, for example with small repair drones, all this of course, by forcing us to disable the shield before the entry into station.

- I find it amazing that were able to pass through the space through millions of planets in hyper jump without hitting a single, and that we can not travel faster in a system between planets and stations.
Faster travel system between the planets?

- Last, through communication with friends in the games, we always lose the connection after each jump? Are we always have to restore manually, there is there an auto reconnect? I did not test, because my friends do not play, bored by the games.

I apologize for my silly English, I post here to provide additional reflections, thank you for your understanding and well come to your feedback

in addition thread by Pryzm

Midnight_Sun323 · Nov 27, 2014

It's a good thing there are people to tell this privately owned company how to run their finances.

Morbad · Nov 27, 2014

Midnight_Sun323 said:
It's a good thing there are people to tell this privately owned company how to run their finances.

It's called customer feedback.

SS_KONIG · Nov 27, 2014

Lastgun said:
First, spend time and money unnecessarily with a first event. Many players already know about the game, I think it would be better to improve it, than to make additional advertising ...
(boys I did not work at the moment, but I have a fairly developed critical sense, you'd hire me as a consultant that would have costed you cheaper)

I'd rather see the money spent for:

- Integrated quality landing, feeling the weight ( I assumed that the stations were supposed to have a little gravity ?, as they are rotated on themselves) for those who think real or not, no matter, no one hears sound space, but I find it great to hear the sounds of explosions and engines.

So I would feel the weight of the vessel at the time of landing, to have to get really gently to avoid breaking a landing gear and having to make an emergency stowage, for example with small repair drones, all this of course, by forcing us to disable the shield before the entry into station.

- I find it amazing that were able to pass through the space through millions of planets in hyper jump without hitting a single, and that we can not travel faster in a system between planets and stations.
Faster travel system between the planets?

- Last, through communication with friends in the games, we always lose the connection after each jump? Are we always have to restore manually, there is there an auto reconnect? I did not test, because my friends do not play, bored by the games.

I apologize for my silly English, I post here to provide additional reflections, thank you for your understanding and well come to your feedback

in addition thread by Pryzm

At the end of the day its a game & needs to be fun, accuracy is important but its taking it too far if that accuracy spoils the fun.

Cheers Konig

Tyr07 · Nov 27, 2014

Morbad said:
It's called customer feedback.

If you give some money to a friend because they need it for gas to pick you up, but instead drop you off half way (or 95% or whatever complete you think the game is) because they spent the money on beer instead, is that okay or do you have a position to complain about how they run their finances? Especially knowing they will now ask you for more money?

You have two ways you can look at it. Either 1. You're an investor. You invested, therefore they have to answer to you on how they invested your money. 2. You're a consumer who paid for a product, and the company buys a private, but tells you they only have so much funding and development resources so they cannot deliver your product has advertised.

Now, this in my opinion is /not/ what has happened, but you should understand that customers do have a right to give feedback about how a company operates.

blueski · Nov 27, 2014

Lastgun said:
First, spend time and money unnecessarily with a first event. Many players already know about the game, I think it would be better to improve it, than to make additional advertising ...
(boys I did not work at the moment, but I have a fairly developed critical sense, you'd hire me as a consultant that would have costed you cheaper)

At the end of the day, they're not a charity. I am not defending them having a launch and spending the money but its none of my bizzo.

I'd rather see the money spent for:

- Integrated quality landing, feeling the weight ( I assumed that the stations were supposed to have a little gravity ?, as they are rotated on themselves) for those who think real or not, no matter, no one hears sound space, but I find it great to hear the sounds of explosions and engines.

So I would feel the weight of the vessel at the time of landing, to have to get really gently to avoid breaking a landing gear and having to make an emergency stowage, for example with small repair drones, all this of course, by forcing us to disable the shield before the entry into station.

- I find it amazing that were able to pass through the space through millions of planets in hyper jump without hitting a single, and that we can not travel faster in a system between planets and stations.
Faster travel system between the planets?

- Last, through communication with friends in the games, we always lose the connection after each jump? Are we always have to restore manually, there is there an auto reconnect? I did not test, because my friends do not play, bored by the games.

there is another forum area for making suggestions about the game design, you'll see quite a few other people are concerned about the social aspect of the game and how we'll communicate over there. The one you've mentioned sounds like a bug, try to build a step by step of how it happened and head over to the bug tracker.

I apologize for my silly English, I post here to provide additional reflections, thank you for your understanding and well come to your feedback

in addition thread by Pryzm

No worries, i understood you fine.

Alex988 · Nov 27, 2014

Morbad said:
It's called customer feedback.

Should I link you some threads where ppl demand how they should run the shop, requesting monthly fees, want p2w, donations (I'ts a company and not a charity org.) etc.
It's their bussines. Btw. I agree with some of ops points, but the titel "Capitalism when you hold us, Frontier I do not ask you to refund but..." is rather strange.

Lastgun · Nov 27, 2014

Alex988 said:
Should I link you some threads where ppl demand how they should run the shop, requesting monthly fees, want p2w, donations (I'ts a company and not a charity org.) etc.
It's their bussines. Btw. I agree with some of ops points, but the titel "Capitalism when you hold us, Frontier I do not ask you to refund but..." is rather strange.

yes,I just edited my post again because nobody answered, all preferred chat about refund ..

Avnas · Nov 27, 2014

Lastgun said:
- Integrated quality landing, feeling the weight ( I assumed that the stations were supposed to have a little gravity ?, as they are rotated on themselves) for those who think real or not, no matter, no one hears sound space, but I find it great to hear the sounds of explosions and engines.

in addition thread by Pryzm

while i dont agree that landing needs to be changed, i think the lack of gravity's pull feels strange. if i'm travelling at the speed of light shouldn't i be able to slingshot myself off a planet? shouldn't i be dragged into it? shouldn't i feel a black hole's pull?

also, i think they need to put in a mechanism to allow gas clouds for stars close together, one star should usually be feeding on the smaller one when in a close binary system.

finally, black holes are currently just gravity lensing with a black dot for the event horizon. i'm yet to see one feeding or even with an accretion disk

foxpur · Nov 27, 2014

Since the first event was paid for my ticket sales of those that wanted to go and pre-paid as part of the money put in by backers it was VERY needed, and pre-paid before there was even a game. Marketing and promotional often count for the majority cost of running a business.

aRtFuL · Nov 27, 2014

Avnas said:
while i dont agree that landing needs to be changed, i think the lack of gravity's pull feels strange. if i'm travelling at the speed of light shouldn't i be able to slingshot myself off a planet? shouldn't i be dragged into it? shouldn't i feel a black hole's pull?

I think this one is a bit hard because I would suppose that the theory behind Frame-shift drive is the likelihood that the drive itself is a gravity manipulating drive (like warp drive in Star Trek).

For non-FSD flight yes that would make total sense.

Patrick_68000 · Nov 27, 2014

The "premiere" was very nice. And it was an evening planned in the kickstarter there is 2 years

adoredtv · Nov 27, 2014

Lastgun said:
- I find it amazing that were able to pass through the space through millions of planets in hyper jump without hitting a single, and that we can not travel faster in a system between planets and stations.
Faster travel system between the planets?

If such things existed, it would likely be a lot safer going flat-out in the space between systems than within systems.