Capture effect on performance

I was just wondering if turning off the video and screenshot capture function improves in game performance on xbox. I did this last night and it felt as though it had, but maybe just space madness.

Any thoughts?
 
I was just wondering if turning off the video and screenshot capture function improves in game performance on xbox. I did this last night and it felt as though it had, but maybe just space madness.

Any thoughts?

It certainly does on PC...I disabled the Xbox game bar that enables the same function as you have on Xbox (record that/screenshot/recording suite/Streaming tools) after I noted in Windows task manager that it was using over 20% of my 16Gb of system memory and hogging 25% of disk use of my 2Tb hybrid game drive all on it's own, even when idle... not to mention hogging video memory and GPU usage to a lesser degree when in use.

I did use the gamebar since I was familiar with it's function being on Xbox. Since disabling it and now using GeForce shadowplay..which does exactly the same thing... I've noticed an overall improvement in the general performance of not only E-D, but everything I run on PC.

It's simply the most resource hungry piece of inflated code known to man... if you can live without it, I'd seriously suggest turning it off if you don't use it or at least only turning it on if you can't live without it.

I'll be clear on this...it's exactly the same suite of tools on PC as it is on the Xbox and not something different... just for the doubters :)
 
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Thank you for the feedback, this is very useful. I do like to take plenty of screenies and capture video, especially whilst exploring, but it is easy to turn on when wanted. +rep
 
Thank you for the feedback, this is very useful. I do like to take plenty of screenies and capture video, especially whilst exploring, but it is easy to turn on when wanted. +rep

No problem, Tim. It's always easier to see how programs effect system and game performance on PC having the tools there to monitor them. Fortunately in this case, the gamebar and recording suite is common to both Xbox and Win 10 based PC's.

Thanks for the rep :)
 
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I'm not sure it would make that much difference, with the console versions pegged @ 30 FPS.

The console versions aren't capped at 30, they can run at 60 if the circumstances allow. On the stronger consoles it's more common than not. I still don't know where this notion comes from that Elite is capped at 30 fps. Even Gary has confirmed in the past (way before the X arrived) that it's unlocked.
 
I'm not sure it would make that much difference, with the console versions pegged @ 30 FPS.

It's not a matter of graphics or FPS though, Bongo. The system CPU, memory and hard drive being hogged by one or more applications can slow down overall performance. My FPS in E-D rarely varies from the usual 100 or so I've capped it at but occasional choppiness in gameplay is usually a sign of the system memory, hard drive or CPU being under load and not the graphics card alone...

Just glancing at the windows task manager after hearing my system cooling fans raising their pitch for an unusually extended time showed the results when I looked to see if I could spot something out of the ordinary. It wasn't the graphics load that was causing the issue but increased CPU, memory and hard drive usage by the game bar that was the root cause.

The Xbox gamebar was hogging more resources than anything else on the entire machine except the running E-D executable. That includes my GTX 1080Ti graphics card and GeForce software, all the peripherals like Voice attack and HCS voice packs, Steam client, E-D game launcher, my X56 HOTAS and software, my eyetracker and software and all the other windows applications and bits and bobs running in the background like Inara/EDDB/EDSM/ED market connector and Discord at that time. The gamebar was idle in the background and not recording or streaming but using relatively large amounts of sytem resources.

Disabling it returned the system resource usage well within normal operating range and reduced the overall relatively minor choppiness in the gameplay I had been experiencing...

I take into account that the Xbox architecture uses system resources somewhat more efficiently than PC...as well as it not using the additional programs or hardware I run when playing E-D...but the sheer amount of system load the gamebar caused on it's own can't be any easier for the Xbox to handle than it is for my high end PC.
 
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I take into account that the Xbox architecture uses system resources somewhat more efficiently than PC...as well as it not using the additional programs or hardware I run when playing E-D...but the sheer amount of system load the gamebar caused on it's own can't be any easier for the Xbox to handle than it is for my high end PC.

There may be more to it than simply the more efficient use of resources on Xbox - the DVR stuff could be handled by resources that are reserved for it and which don't get freed up for game use if disabled.
 
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There may be more to it than simply the more efficient use of resources on Xbox - the DVR stuff could be handled by resources that are reserved for it and which don't get freed up for game use if disabled.

Could well be, the only way to test that assumption on the Xbox would be to try game performance with it on and then disabled and roughly compare the results by eye over time and with various system loads. Planetary landings or station landings and exits in E-D might be the best test environment...

It would be down purely to perception though since Xbox hasn't got the tools to monitor applications or resources. I'd be interested in a general consensus from those who try it since I can only report the similarity of effects caused on PC and nothing more.

From experience though..setting aside a huge amount of finite system resources unusable by anything else is usually reserved for hardware and not applications outside of the main operating system. Since the gamebar and video suite are merely additional and entirely optional social media applications and not at all necessary for system function...I can't honestly see the thinking behind that idea.

You can turn it off just the same as I can, so therefore it's an option and not a necessity.
 
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Could well be, the only way to test that assumption on the Xbox would be to try game performance with it on and then disabled and roughly compare the results by eye over time and with various system loads. Planetary landings or station landings and exits in E-D might be the best test environment...

It would be down purely to perception though since Xbox hasn't got the tools to monitor applications or resources. I'd be interested in a general consensus from those who try it since I can only report the similarity of effects caused on PC and nothing more.

From experience though..setting aside a huge amount of finite system resources unusable by anything else is usually reserved for hardware and not applications outside of the main operating system. Since the gamebar and video suite are merely additional and entirely optional social media applications and not at all necessary for system function...I can't honestly see the thinking behind that idea.

You can turn it off just the same as I can, so therefore it's an option and not a necessity.

FYI, This topic is also being discussed over in PUBG forums, here's a link and I'll let you scroll down to check out various other linked items regarding the topic:
https://forums.playbattlegrounds.com/topic/147582-xbox-game-dvr/

I will note however regarding the comments about the DVR partition being on the same HDD as the game... that is only true if you are only using the internal HDD. I for one am still running ED and all other games from an external USB 3 HDD.

Additionally for those that aren't aware, you can hook up an external USB 3 NTFS formatted HDD and use that to record a much longer DVR capture. You can then take that and hook it up to a PC and use your favorite video editing software to directly edit your video without having to go through the tedious upload/download process with the standard Game DVR clips.

O7
 
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